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    Quote Originally Posted by michae1 View Post
    The Beast Revelation

    This letter is dedicated to all Christians.



    May God bless all who read this letter.

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    You are absolutely and totally insane.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

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    a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
    If the answer is yes, you are a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Wait, that's only 150 years.
    Really between 300 BC and 150 AD is probably a more accurate range, Apocrophal literature was very popular and there was lots of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    In scripture Israel is constantly referred to as the harlot or playing the harlot.. Israel was the whore of Babylon in that context. Revelation has NOTHING to do with New York or the modern age.. Revelation tells you who the letter is written to and when it will happen.

    You don't get to rewrite scripture.
    And the Hebrew was written in the present tense not future tense as the christain greek bible got it's prophecies from
    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

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    Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.







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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    And the Hebrew was written in the present tense not future tense as the christain greek bible got it's prophecies from
    Exactly and Revelation was written in Greek not Hebrew. Greek was the lingua franca of the day. It was written to the 7 Jewish assemblies in Asia Minor (Turkey)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    The disciples and Paul expected the second coming would be in their lifetimes, before they died. It was to be a future event, but for them. It didn’t happen.
    So is 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 a future event or not!If not when did it take place!?
    I could care less what Paul the disciples thought,we live now!It's a living Bible not a dead Bible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It most assuredly was a "new world".. The destruction was the end of Temple Judaism and animal sacrifice.. giving way to rabbinical judaism.

    You need to study the 300 year period between the birth of Christ and 150 AD to learn about the symbolism which they all understood perfectly.
    Not remotely a answer to my question.
    Again ,when did 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 take place,or is it a future event,yet not fulfilled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    Not remotely a answer to my question.
    Again ,when did 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 take place,or is it a future event,yet not fulfilled!
    It was a new world or new world order if you like.. The power of the holy people (the Jews) was shattered with the destruction of the Temple. Jesus knew it would happen if they continued as they were.. There were 5 factions of Jews fighting each other and the Romans. Any astute observer could see where it was headed.

    At the time the old fleshly-based Israel would be dissolved in A.D. 70... the meeting-place becomes the heavenly places in Christ – the spiritual kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It was a new world or new world order if you like.. The power of the holy people (the Jews) was shattered with the destruction of the Temple. Jesus knew it would happen if they continued as they were.. There were 5 factions of Jews fighting each other and the Romans. Any astute observer could see where it was headed.
    Are you retarded?
    Read 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17,Then tell me if that event took place and when.Or hasn't taken place yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    Are you retarded?
    Read 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17,Then tell me if that event took place and when.Or hasn't taken place yet!
    It already happened.. It was the end of Jewish power and Temple Judaism.. the new kingdom was SPIRITUAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    And the Hebrew was written in the present tense not future tense as the christain greek bible got it's prophecies from
    Revelation was written in Hebrew?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It already happened.. It was the end of Jewish power and Temple Judaism.. the new kingdom was SPIRITUAL.
    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
    "For the Lord himself came down from Heaven,with a loud command,and the voice of the Archangel,and the trump it call of God,and the dead in Christ will rise first.
    After that we that are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them will be caught up in the clouds with them to meet the Lord in the air.And so we will be with the Lord forever."

    You claim this has already happened!
    Now tell me when!

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    and behold, there shall be an end time.......and it shall happen right after the before end times.....and it shall be followed by the after end times.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
    "For the Lord himself came down from Heaven,with a loud command,and the voice of the Archangel,and the trump it call of God,and the dead in Christ will rise first.
    After that we that are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them will be caught up in the clouds with them to meet the Lord in the air.And so we will be with the Lord forever."

    You claim this has already happened!
    Now tell me when!

    The concept of a "rapture" has only been recently (within the last two hundred or so years) created by Dispensational theologians.

    The idea of a "rapture" implies that believers would be taken away before the Second Coming. This is dirrectly in opposition to Christ comparing his return with "the days of Noah" - see Matthew 24. In the days of Noah, the unrighteous were taken away by the waters of the flood, and the righteous remained and were saved - this is in clear opposition with the teachings of a "rapture."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The concept of a "rapture" has only been recently (within the last two hundred or so years) created by Dispensational theologians.

    The idea of a "rapture" implies that believers would be taken away before the Second Coming. This is dirrectly in opposition to Christ comparing his return with "the days of Noah" - see Matthew 24. In the days of Noah, the unrighteous were taken away by the waters of the flood, and the righteous remained and were saved - this is in clear opposition with the teachings of a "rapture."
    actually, its pretty obvious the comparison is to the unexpectedness of the second coming.....
    36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    actually, its pretty obvious the comparison is to the unexpectedness of the second coming.....
    There was NO flood.. The Noah story is a myth. You can't use it to prove the rapture.

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