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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    You mean this?

    "Revelation 17 ,We see the Beast has moved to the wilderness.
    That's when the Roman Empire moved from Europe to what became America.
    America is the Beast that raised from the sea .."


    Revelation was not about the distant future or Europe or America or Russia.. and the Roman Empire didn't move to America.
    America is the revived Roman Empire!
    Now go to Revelation 18,an d tell me that the city called Babylon isn't New York

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    America is the revived Roman Empire!
    Now go to Revelation 18,an d tell me that the city called Babylon isn't New York
    The whore of Babylon was Israel.. Have you never read the Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The whore of Babylon was Israel.. Have you never read the Bible?
    Past tense?You claiming Revelation 18,which talks about judgement coming to the city of Babylon.And all merchants mourning is the country Israel?lol
    Stop wasting my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    Past tense?You claiming Revelation 18,which talks about judgement coming to the city of Babylon.And all merchants mourning is the country Israel?lol
    Stop wasting my time.
    In scripture Israel is constantly referred to as the harlot or playing the harlot.. Israel was the whore of Babylon in that context. Revelation has NOTHING to do with New York or the modern age.. Revelation tells you who the letter is written to and when it will happen.

    You don't get to rewrite scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    In scripture Israel is constantly referred to as the harlot or playing the harlot.. Israel was the whore of Babylon in that context. Revelation has NOTHING to do with New York or the modern age.. Revelation tells you who the letter is written to and when it will happen.

    You don't get to rewrite scripture.
    Revelation 18 is in the future not the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The Tribulation was over with the fall of Massada.
    Yep, the Book of Revelations has already happened. It is not a forthtelling, not a foretelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    Revelation 18 is in the future not the past.
    Its ALL in the past. Revelation tells you that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Yep, the Book of Revelations has already happened. It is not a forthtelling, not a foretelling.
    I couldn't disagree more!
    Next you going to say Revelation 22:21-22 already happened or,1Thessalonians 4-16-17?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Yep, the Book of Revelations has already happened. It is not a forthtelling, not a foretelling.
    Those damned con men like Tim Lahaye and Hal Lindsey have done so much damage with their lousy scholarship and lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Its ALL in the past. Revelation tells you that.
    Then throw away your Bible it's a dead history book,not a book with some unfulfilled Prophecy!
    I missed Elijah 's return and the second coming of Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    Then throw away your Bible it's a dead history book,not a book with some unfulfilled Prophecy!
    I missed Elijah 's return and the second coming of Christ.
    Paul probably wrote Thessalonians.. and he was dead before the Temple was destroyed.. before John of Patmos wrote Revelation. Apocalyptic literature was VERY popular for about 300 years.. That's why you have so many "apocalyse books".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Paul probably wrote Thessalonians.. and he was dead before the Temple was destroyed.. before John of Patmos wrote Revelation. Apocalyptic literature was VERY popular for about 300 years.. That's why you have so many "apocalyse books".
    Tell me Professor,when did 1Thessalonians 4:16-17 take place,you might want to read it first before answering!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    Tell me Professor,when did 1Thessalonians 4:16-17 take place,you might want to read it first before answering!
    The disciples and Paul expected the second coming would be in their lifetimes, before they died. It was to be a future event, but for them. It didn’t happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    Tell me Professor,when did 1Thessalonians 4:16-17 take place,you might want to read it first before answering!
    It most assuredly was a "new world".. The destruction was the end of Temple Judaism and animal sacrifice.. giving way to rabbinical judaism.

    You need to study the 300 year period between the birth of Christ and 150 AD to learn about the symbolism which they all understood perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It most assuredly was a "new world".. The destruction was the end of Temple Judaism and animal sacrifice.. giving way to rabbinical judaism.

    You need to study the 300 year period between the birth of Christ and 150 AD to learn about the symbolism which they all understood perfectly.
    Wait, that's only 150 years.

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