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    Two questions if I may: Is there at least one...

    Two questions if I may:

    Is there at least one GOD? (By "...at least one GOD" I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF SUCH...
  2. So you agree...Trump did not build the wall HE...

    So you agree...Trump did not build the wall HE PROMISED TIME AND TIME AGAIN.





    This was a promise that was the highlight of his campaign. At every rally, he mentioned that he was going to...
  3. Did Trump build the wall...or not? Did Trump...

    Did Trump build the wall...or not?

    Did Trump get the Mexicans to pay for it...or not?

    Is the wall there...protecting the southern border...AS TRUMP PROMISED TIME AFTER TIME?

    But the problem...
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    Another reason why descriptors are essentially...

    Another reason why descriptors are essentially useless in these kinds of discussions. Words mean different things to different people.

    Using terms like "theist", "atheist" and/or "agnostic" makes...
  5. Are you saying that Trump did not make good on...

    Are you saying that Trump did not make good on the promise he made time and time again (to the roar and applause of his base) at every campaign stop during his first run for president?

    Oh, my!
    ...
  6. How can there possibly be a problem? Trump...

    How can there possibly be a problem?

    Trump built that high, beautiful wall all across the southern border when he was in office. And he got Mexico to pay for it.

    Joe Biden did not destroy the...
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    YOU ought to try to be better, because you are...

    YOU ought to try to be better, because you are treating your audience as though they are stupid.

    You use the descriptor "atheist" because you either believe (suppose, guess, think) that there are...
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    If you stand by your comment about the...

    If you stand by your comment about the unlikelyhood of all gods...you are expressing a belief. There is absolutely no way you can know there are no gods...or that it is more likely that there are no...
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    Neither do I. But you saying that ALL GODS ARE...

    Neither do I.

    But you saying that ALL GODS ARE UNLIKELY...is not a lack of belief.

    It is a belief that no gods exist...OR...it is a belief that "no gods exist" is more likely than "at least one...
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    You claim you have no "beliefs" regarding the...

    You claim you have no "beliefs" regarding the existence or non-existence of gods...and you claim you do not meet the criteria I mentioned, namely: You do not believe there are no gods...and you do...
  11. So in four years Trump was not able to build the...

    So in four years Trump was not able to build the wall...nor was he able to get the money for the wall from Mexico so that it could be finished by someone who could actually get it done rather than...
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    Hummm...I wonder how that bolded part plays out...

    Hummm...I wonder how that bolded part plays out with regard to my contention that you DO either "believe" there are no gods or "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at...
  13. Trump said he would build the wall and get Mexico...

    Trump said he would build the wall and get Mexico to pay for it. He said it at damn near every rally he held...actually asked his audience "What are we gonna build?" and "Who's gonna pay for it?"
    ...
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    Thank you for giving me your rationalization for...

    Thank you for giving me your rationalization for using "atheist" as a descriptor.

    I gotta be honest with you. It seems to me that you are using "atheist" as a descriptor because you either...
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    I agree...it is a perfectly decent description of...

    I agree...it is a perfectly decent description of atheism.

    But the choice of using "atheist" is A CHOICE.

    You've made it.

    From what I can determine from your earlier response to my...
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    That is not a correct etymological condition, O....

    That is not a correct etymological condition, O.

    The fact is that the word "atheist" came into the English language almost 100 years before the word "theist." Atheist does not derive from theist...
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    Yup, so have I. Challenging anyone's "beliefs"...

    Yup, so have I.

    Challenging anyone's "beliefs" does cause problems.

    Anyway...it is my opinion that "beliefs" in this particular area are just guesses.

    Some of those guesses may be correct.
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    I also fail to see sufficient evidence for the...

    I also fail to see sufficient evidence for the existence of any gods....and fail to see sufficient evidence that no gods exist.

    But that was not the question.

    Let me frame it differently:

    If...
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    If we were playing poker...everyone at the table...

    If we were playing poker...everyone at the table would realize you are on tilt.

    Gonna put you on IGNORE for a few days. I have a conversation going that I find interesting...and you are just...
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    Now you are just being silly.

    Now you are just being silly.
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    Two more bad guesses.

    Two more bad guesses.
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    Okay...so you do not "believe." But you still use...

    Okay...so you do not "believe." But you still use the descriptor "atheist."

    Two questions, if I may:

    One...am I correct that you use the descriptor "atheist" to describe yourself?

    Two...you...
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    Another bad guess...and a sorta proof of what I...

    Another bad guess...and a sorta proof of what I suggested earlier.
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    More bad guesses.

    More bad guesses.
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    Bad guess.

    Bad guess.
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