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If you stand by your comment about the unlikelyhood of all gods...you are expressing a belief. There is absolutely no way you can know there are no gods...or that it is more likely that there are no...

Neither do I.

But you saying that ALL GODS ARE UNLIKELY...is not a lack of belief.

It is a belief that no gods exist...OR...it is a belief that "no gods exist" is more likely than "at least one...

You claim you have no "beliefs" regarding the existence or non-existence of gods...and you claim you do not meet the criteria I mentioned, namely: You do not believe there are no gods...and you do...

So in four years Trump was not able to build the wall...nor was he able to get the money for the wall from Mexico so that it could be finished by someone who could actually get it done rather than...

Hummm...I wonder how that bolded part plays out with regard to my contention that you DO either "believe" there are no gods or "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at...

Trump said he would build the wall and get Mexico to pay for it. He said it at damn near every rally he held...actually asked his audience "What are we gonna build?" and "Who's gonna pay for it?"
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Thank you for giving me your rationalization for using "atheist" as a descriptor.

I gotta be honest with you. It seems to me that you are using "atheist" as a descriptor because you either...

I agree...it is a perfectly decent description of atheism.

But the choice of using "atheist" is A CHOICE.

You've made it.

From what I can determine from your earlier response to my...

That is not a correct etymological condition, O.

The fact is that the word "atheist" came into the English language almost 100 years before the word "theist." Atheist does not derive from theist...

Yup, so have I.

Challenging anyone's "beliefs" does cause problems.

Anyway...it is my opinion that "beliefs" in this particular area are just guesses.

Some of those guesses may be correct.
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I also fail to see sufficient evidence for the existence of any gods....and fail to see sufficient evidence that no gods exist.

But that was not the question.

Let me frame it differently:

If...

If we were playing poker...everyone at the table would realize you are on tilt.

Gonna put you on IGNORE for a few days. I have a conversation going that I find interesting...and you are just...

Now you are just being silly.

Two more bad guesses.

Okay...so you do not "believe." But you still use the descriptor "atheist."

Two questions, if I may:

One...am I correct that you use the descriptor "atheist" to describe yourself?

Two...you...

Another bad guess...and a sorta proof of what I suggested earlier.

More bad guesses.

Bad guess.

Atheism is a whole bunch of things.

But if you are saying that NO people who call themselves atheists have "beliefs"...I am going to suggest that you are wrong.

There ARE people who call...

Yeah, calling a guess to the attention of someone making a guess...can be taken as an insult by someone who does not want to acknowledge that their guesses are just guesses.

Okay.

But it is in...

Okay. That is one of the reasons some atheists get defensive.

As I suggested, many atheists do get defensive as religious people if their "beliefs" are challenged.

Guesses. Blind guesses.

One of them may be correct.

None of them may be correct.

But "guesses" will do.

The wall has to be there, Libhater.

Trump promised it several thousands of times during his run for office in 2016...and he won. He had four long years to get it done...and since Mexico was paying...

Many "atheists" have the same problem (get defensive) when people question the things they "believe."

In a discussion about "religion"...a "belief" is nothing more than a blind guess about an...

But since the wall is there, as promised, how can there be a problem?