Baby killers cause Komen to cave

[Conservative]

Foundation issues Friday apology, promises to restore funding for Planned Parenthood.

Nancy Brinker: "We do not want our mission marred or affected by politics - anyone's politics."

Read the statement from Nancy Brinker and the Susan G. Komen Board of Directors below.

We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt upon our commitment to our mission of saving women's lives.

The events of this week have been deeply unsettling for our supporters, partners and friends and all of us at Susan G. Komen. We have been distressed at the presumption that the changes made to our funding criteria were done for political reasons or to specifically penalize Planned Parenthood. They were not.

Our original desire was to fulfill our fiduciary duty to our donors by not funding grant applications made by organizations under investigation. We will amend the criteria to make clear that disqualifying investigations must be criminal and conclusive in nature and not political. That is what is right and fair.

Our only goal for our granting process is to support women and families in the fight against breast cancer. Amending our criteria will ensure that politics has no place in our grant process. We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities.

It is our hope and we believe it is time for everyone involved to pause, slow down and reflect on how grants can most effectively and directly be administered without controversies that hurt the cause of women. We urge everyone who has participated in this conversation across the country over the last few days to help us move past this issue. We do not want our mission marred or affected by politics - anyone's politics.

Starting this afternoon, we will have calls with our network and key supporters to refocus our attention on our mission and get back to doing our work. We ask for the public's understanding and patience as we gather our Komen affiliates from around the country to determine how to move forward in the best interests of the women and people we serve.

We extend our deepest thanks for the outpouring of support we have received from so many in the past few days and we sincerely hope that these changes will be welcomed by those who have expressed their concern.


http://thepage.time.com/2012/02/03/komen-backs-down/#ixzz1lN669Txb

 

[poet]

Foundation issues Friday apology, promises to restore funding for Planned Parenthood.

Nancy Brinker: "We do not want our mission marred or affected by politics - anyone's politics."

Read the statement from Nancy Brinker and the Susan G. Komen Board of Directors below.

We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt upon our commitment to our mission of saving women's lives.

The events of this week have been deeply unsettling for our supporters, partners and friends and all of us at Susan G. Komen. We have been distressed at the presumption that the changes made to our funding criteria were done for political reasons or to specifically penalize Planned Parenthood. They were not.

Our original desire was to fulfill our fiduciary duty to our donors by not funding grant applications made by organizations under investigation. We will amend the criteria to make clear that disqualifying investigations must be criminal and conclusive in nature and not political. That is what is right and fair.

Our only goal for our granting process is to support women and families in the fight against breast cancer. Amending our criteria will ensure that politics has no place in our grant process. We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities.

It is our hope and we believe it is time for everyone involved to pause, slow down and reflect on how grants can most effectively and directly be administered without controversies that hurt the cause of women. We urge everyone who has participated in this conversation across the country over the last few days to help us move past this issue. We do not want our mission marred or affected by politics - anyone's politics.

Starting this afternoon, we will have calls with our network and key supporters to refocus our attention on our mission and get back to doing our work. We ask for the public's understanding and patience as we gather our Komen affiliates from around the country to determine how to move forward in the best interests of the women and people we serve.

We extend our deepest thanks for the outpouring of support we have received from so many in the past few days and we sincerely hope that these changes will be welcomed by those who have expressed their concern.


http://thepage.time.com/2012/02/03/komen-backs-down/#ixzz1lN669Txb

Except they aren't "babies". They are underdeveloped. They are feti.

 

[The Dude]

Your slut mom should have had another abortion.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Poet, Conservative is one of Legions puppets.....

 

[sedan]

Killing babies is just something I do in my spare time!

 

[apple0154]

Perhaps folks should take a closer look at the Susan G. Komen Foundation.

(Excerpt) In addition to raising millions of dollars a year for breast cancer research, fundraising giant Susan G. Komen for the Cure has a lesser-known mission that eats up donor funds: patrolling the waters for other charities and events around the country that use any variation of “for the cure” in their names.

So far, Komen has identified and filed legal trademark oppositions against more than a hundred of these Mom and Pop charities, including Kites for a Cure, Par for The Cure, Surfing for a Cure and Cupcakes for a Cure–and many of the organizations are too small and underfunded to hold their ground.

“It happened to my family,” said Roxanne Donovan, whose sister runs Kites for a Cure, a family kite-flying event that raises money for lung cancer research. “They came after us ferociously with a big law firm. They said they own ‘cure’ in a name and we had to stop using it, even though we were raising money for an entirely different cause.”

Donovan’s sister, Mary Ann Tighe, said the Komen foundation sent her a letter asking her to stop using the phrase “for a cure” in their title and to never use the color pink in conjunction with their fundraising.
http://www.ktradionetwork.com/tag/kites-for-a-cure/

Examples:

A. Surfing for the Cure. We have been “Surfing for a Cure” since 1993 and have raised more than $5 million for cancer research.

B. Par for the Cure. Founded in 2005, Par for The Cure is a non-profit organization dedicated to raising funds
for breast cancer research. (They use a pink ribbon.)

C. Cupcakes for the Cure. Cupcakes for the Cure was created in memory of Anne Marie Souchereau. When Anne-Marie was diagnosed with cancer in October 2007 at the young age of 29, the first thing she wanted to do was to help others with the disease. Anne Marie and her sister-in-law Michelle's love of baking inspired the idea behind Cupcakes for the Cure. Sadly, Anne Marie lost her life to cancer 3 weeks after her diagnosis. However, Michelle did not let the idea fade.

In April 2008, the first Cupcakes for the Cure event was held. We were able to raise over $6000 for the Canadian Cancer Society.

D. Mush For a Cure. In 2006 Sue and Mary met while playing on the same softball team. Mary thought Pink Paddles were a great thing and asked Sue if Pink Paddles wanted to Partner with Black Magic Kennels in founding and sponsoring a dogsled pledge run to raise money for breast cancer. In March of 2007, four women participated in the inagural Mush For a Cure, raising $2500. In 2010 the event had grown to 52 participants that raised over $23,000! To date, Mush For a Cure has donated over $70,000 to national breast cancer charities. (Uses the color pink.)

The Susan G. Komen Foundation has filed legal trademark oppositions against more than a hundred charities, many who have used pink ribbons and/or the color pink before the trademark decision was granted. Then they used a drummed up excuse to stop funding Planned Parenthood based on the actions of an anti-abortionist. Then they reversed that decision. Perhaps the Susan G. Komen Foundation should earmark a few donated dollars towards the mental health of Nancy Brinker, the current CEO.

 

[Damocles]

Except they aren't "babies". They are underdeveloped. They are feti.

They are human progeny in a state of development, they aren't a stage of development. The word fetus defines a stage of development, not the type of life form. Were it "infant" that they said it would be clear that they could be corrected, that is a stage of development. "Baby" however is not a stage of development and can be used, often is, to describe in utero human progeny. People speak to the "baby" in the womb, play music for their new "child" (also not a stage of development). Often those words are used to describe a burgeoning human in the womb.

The idea that we can't call human life anything that resembles human because it is in a certain stage of development is inane.

 

[JD Kramer]

They are human progeny in a state of development, they aren't a stage of development. The word fetus defines a stage of development, not the type of life form. Were it "infant" that they said it would be clear that they could be corrected, that is a stage of development. "Baby" however is not a stage of development and can be used, often is, to describe in utero human progeny. People speak to the "baby" in the womb, play music for their new "child" (also not a stage of development). Often those words are used to describe a burgeoning human in the womb.

The idea that we can't call human life anything that resembles human because it is in a certain stage of development is inane.

But medically correct.

It's a woman's decision. I fail to see Komen offering to raise any of the already overblown foster children, or taking care of the educational expenses of a mom whose husband left here and their 5 children, etc.

It's hypocritical to put even an opinion into what a woman should do with her reproductive organs given that the same group that does it wants to give all the tax dollars to the rich.

 

[icedancer2theend]

But medically correct.

It's a woman's decision. I fail to see Komen offering to raise any of the already overblown foster children, or taking care of the educational expenses of a mom whose husband left here and their 5 children, etc.

It's hypocritical to put even an opinion into what a woman should do with her reproductive organs given that the same group that does it wants to give all the tax dollars to the rich.

This is just total BS. The Komen charity is specific to breast cancer. They are a privately run charity and have every right to discriminate how any money they have raised for breast cancer is spent! PP is primarily an abortion clinic. They do not do mammograms or test for breast cancer- all their breast cancer activities are refereed out. I hope that now that Komen has buckled to the political correctness, that they at least require PP to prove that money granted to them from the charity is never used for abortion services and if it ever is, that they lose their grants!

 

[Damocles]

But medically correct.

Also correct to say "baby". Often doctors will talk of "the baby", tell you what sex it is, but they never deny that it is human. Medically correct would be to call the progeny, a human fetus, a human infant, etc.

It's a woman's decision. I fail to see Komen offering to raise any of the already overblown foster children, or taking care of the educational expenses of a mom whose husband left here and their 5 children, etc.

But I see you attempting to disallow them the right to simply choose not to fund people who provide abortions. You have the right not to support Komen, they have a right not to support another organization if they so choose.

It's hypocritical to put even an opinion into what a woman should do with her reproductive organs given that the same group that does it wants to give all the tax dollars to the rich.

Please point out where stating medical facts have ever suggested what a woman does with her reproductive organs.

Simply disagreeing with an attempt to dehumanize a developing human by trying to force others only to define it only by a stage of life suggests no action with reproductive organs at all.

 

[JD Kramer]

This is just total BS. The Komen charity is specific to breast cancer. They are a privately run charity and have every right to discriminate how any money they have raised for breast cancer is spent! PP is primarily an abortion clinic. They do not do mammograms or test for breast cancer- all their breast cancer activities are refereed out. I hope that now that Komen has buckled to the political correctness, that they at least require PP to prove that money granted to them from the charity is never used for abortion services and if it ever is, that they lose their grants!

No, the Komen charity is proven now to be run by a politically motivated agenda; from the right.

Planned Parenthood does far more work providing inexpensive cancer screenings to poor women than the 3% referrals for abortions. It is now being funded by donations because unlike the politically motivated religious right, MOST Christians believe you should help the poor. IT's legal to have an abortion in this nation under the Roe v Wade laws. Unlike those who think the right has changed anything, they have only made it harder to GET an abortion because they MURDER abortion doctors. But the law is still on the books.

 

[icedancer2theend]

No, the Komen charity is proven now to be run by a politically motivated agenda; from the right.

Planned Parenthood does far more work providing inexpensive cancer screenings to poor women than the 3% referrals for abortions. It is now being funded by donations because unlike the politically motivated religious right, MOST Christians believe you should help the poor. IT's legal to have an abortion in this nation under the Roe v Wade laws. Unlike those who think the right has changed anything, they have only made it harder to GET an abortion because they MURDER abortion doctors. But the law is still on the books.

Abortion is how PP became a billion+ dollar industry. In 2010, it did 329,445 abortions- Cancer screenings? No, Breast cancer "screenings" are referrals to "other" providers that they then claim as a "service". PP is the politically motivated entity of the far left variety. Again, Komen has the right as a private charity to provide grants to whom they deem worthy- Now that they have caved to leftist political pressures- they need to demand that any funding they give to PP be used ONLY for breast cancer related services- period!

This discussion was not whether abortion is legal, but rather if a private charity has a right to not grant its donations to a publicly supported organization.

 

[apple0154]

They are human progeny in a state of development, they aren't a stage of development. The word fetus defines a stage of development, not the type of life form. Were it "infant" that they said it would be clear that they could be corrected, that is a stage of development. "Baby" however is not a stage of development and can be used, often is, to describe in utero human progeny. People speak to the "baby" in the womb, play music for their new "child" (also not a stage of development). Often those words are used to describe a burgeoning human in the womb.

The idea that we can't call human life anything that resembles human because it is in a certain stage of development is inane.

No more inane than saying we can't call an acorn an oak tree or an egg a chicken.

 

[apple0154]

Also correct to say "baby". Often doctors will talk of "the baby", tell you what sex it is, but they never deny that it is human. Medically correct would be to call the progeny, a human fetus, a human infant, etc.


But I see you attempting to disallow them the right to simply choose not to fund people who provide abortions. You have the right not to support Komen, they have a right not to support another organization if they so choose.


Please point out where stating medical facts have ever suggested what a woman does with her reproductive organs.

Simply disagreeing with an attempt to dehumanize a developing human by trying to force others only to define it only by a stage of life suggests no action with reproductive organs at all.

Yes, doctors and others do that just as people will talk about a house when all they have are the blueprints. Or talk about their "house" when all that is evident is a hole in the ground for the foundation.

There's an old expression, "Don't count your chickens before they've hatched."

It means: Don't assume that you will get something. Wait until you actually have it.
It means to not plan something out and act as if it is going to happen, as it might not go through or it might go wrong.
It's saying don't expect the ideal conditions for something to happen in the future;
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_t...t_count_your_chickens_before_they_are_hatched'

 

[apple0154]

No, the Komen charity is proven now to be run by a politically motivated agenda; from the right.

Planned Parenthood does far more work providing inexpensive cancer screenings to poor women than the 3% referrals for abortions. It is now being funded by donations because unlike the politically motivated religious right, MOST Christians believe you should help the poor. IT's legal to have an abortion in this nation under the Roe v Wade laws. Unlike those who think the right has changed anything, they have only made it harder to GET an abortion because they MURDER abortion doctors. But the law is still on the books.

Perhaps people should take a closer look at the Koman Foundation.

(Excerpt) Legal battles over trademarking

In 2007, the organization changed its name to Susan G. Komen for the Cure and trademarked the running ribbon as part of its new branding strategy. Komen has come under fire for legal action against other nonprofits or organizations using the phrase "for the cure" within their names. An August 2010 article in the Wall Street Journal detailed a case in which the organization Uniting Against Lung Cancer was told in a letter from Komen that they should no longer use the name "Kites for the Cure" for their annual fundraising event. Komen also wrote to the organization to warn them "against any use of pink in conjunction with 'cure.'" More than 100 small charities have received legal opposition from Komen regarding various uses of the words "for the cure" in their names, at a cost of nearly $1 million per year in donor funds. Among the offending charitable organizations and events were "Par for the Cure," "Surfing for a Cure," "Cupcakes for a Cure" and "Mush for the Cure". Komen says that the organization protects its trademarks as a matter of financial stewardship and that they want to prevent confusion among donors. According to Komen general counsel Jonathan Blum, a mixup could result in a donation being inadvertently sent to another charity. Others suggest that the trademark issue is more about dominating the pink ribbon marketplace. (End)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_G._Komen_for_the_Cure

One million dollars donated towards seeking a cure for cancer wasted on legal nonsense involving nothing more than ego. Quite disgusting, in my view.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

But medically correct.

it certainly isn't medically correct to say that an unborn child is any less a human individual than a birthed child.....

 

[icedancer2theend]

Perhaps people should take a closer look at the Koman Foundation.

(Excerpt) Legal battles over trademarking

In 2007, the organization changed its name to Susan G. Komen for the Cure and trademarked the running ribbon as part of its new branding strategy. Komen has come under fire for legal action against other nonprofits or organizations using the phrase "for the cure" within their names. An August 2010 article in the Wall Street Journal detailed a case in which the organization Uniting Against Lung Cancer was told in a letter from Komen that they should no longer use the name "Kites for the Cure" for their annual fundraising event. Komen also wrote to the organization to warn them "against any use of pink in conjunction with 'cure.'" More than 100 small charities have received legal opposition from Komen regarding various uses of the words "for the cure" in their names, at a cost of nearly $1 million per year in donor funds. Among the offending charitable organizations and events were "Par for the Cure," "Surfing for a Cure," "Cupcakes for a Cure" and "Mush for the Cure". Komen says that the organization protects its trademarks as a matter of financial stewardship and that they want to prevent confusion among donors. According to Komen general counsel Jonathan Blum, a mixup could result in a donation being inadvertently sent to another charity. Others suggest that the trademark issue is more about dominating the pink ribbon marketplace. (End)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_G._Komen_for_the_Cure

One million dollars donated towards seeking a cure for cancer wasted on legal nonsense involving nothing more than ego. Quite disgusting, in my view.

Trademarks protect consumers as well as the brand. Using a branding can mislead the public to give to potentially nefarious organizations- this is harmful to the brand image as well as the consumer. Get disgusted over something real instead of imagined.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

No, the Komen charity is proven now to be run by a politically motivated agenda; from the right.

and when it reinstated it's support to PP did it prove that it's now run by a politically motivated agenda from the left?......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

No more inane than saying we can't call an acorn an oak tree or an egg a chicken.

most folks are already aware that an acorn is a stage in the development of oaks, eggs are a stage in the development of chickens and an embryo is a stage in the development of a human being.......there is a fringe element that ignores those facts of science so they can continue to kill human beings in one particular stage of development......some day we hope to exterminate that fringe element.....

 

[apple0154]

it certainly isn't medically correct to say that an unborn child is any less a human individual than a birthed child.....

If one is classifying something strictly by DNA then an egg is a chicken. Try alternating the use of "chicken" and "egg" in general conversation and witness the reaction. Perhaps one could start by ordering a breakfast of scrambled chickens and bacon. And, yes, many country eateries use fresh eggs that may very well be fertilized if purchased from small, local farms.