Remove the Plank from thine own eye

Yurt said:
translation:

yurt is right, there is no hypocrisy, so i will act like an asshole so rana will thank me.
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I'll get to the hypocrisy right after you answer the other thread like you said you would.

Why do you have no honor?
 
Yurt said:
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yurt is right, there is no hypocrisy, so i will act like an asshole so rana will thank me.
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That's it...provide a "translation" so you don't have to respond to the points he made and the question he asked.

Once again Yurt dodges questions put to him...while still demanding others answer his questions.
 
Thoth said:
Can anyone provide a good reason as to why drug testing shouldn't be mandatory to receive public assistance? Employers perform drug tests all the time. I fail to see how public assistance should be treated any different.
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If we are going to drug test the poor in order for them to receive aid, then we must also drug test every single congressman and woman when they leave office to see if they deserve their "Golden Parachute" paid for by you and I.
 
Thoth said:
Can anyone provide a good reason as to why drug testing shouldn't be mandatory to receive public assistance? Employers perform drug tests all the time. I fail to see how public assistance should be treated any different.
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I'm for it.
I'm also for the healthy to be working at something. I don't care if they're just picking up trash along the roads.
Have them interviewed, do a background check, and put the eligible ones working, watching the children of those picking up the trash or such.
Use those who can't do the physical labor as drivers for those who can, back and forth to their job sites.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
If we are going to drug test the poor in order for them to receive aid, then we must also drug test every single congressman and woman when they leave office to see if they deserve their "Golden Parachute" paid for by you and I.
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You act like that's some kind of problem.
I don't see why they need the "Golden Parachute".
If the health care they're trying to push off on us is so great, then let them be covered by it also.
 
Damocles said:
My favorite was Rosie O'Donnell... trying to take away your guns while hiring protection for her and her children who have guns. I also love it when the Governor of a state starts talking about it while standing next to protection payed for by "the people" with guns.

They deserve protection, but not you. Because they are "special"...
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Do you mean "ride the little yellow bus and eat pudding with a plastic spoon." special? :)
 
no surprise zappy comes to dune's rescue and insults rather than debate. you two are cowards. there is no hypocrisy so dune has to whine about some thread that is almost 2 months old so he can avoid explaining how i'm stupid for not seeing the hypocrisy.

hilarious.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
If we are going to drug test the poor in order for them to receive aid, then we must also drug test every single congressman and woman when they leave office to see if they deserve their "Golden Parachute" paid for by you and I.
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you're really going to compare welfare to retirement packages? wow. just wow.
 
Return of Dune said:
When are you going to provide your comments on the enemy combatants thread, like you said you would?

Do you often not do things you say you will do?

How entitled are you, to not be good for your word but demand defintions from others, that you can then try to nitpick apart like a lying ambulance chaser.
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I have yurt on ignore, it is better that way.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
That's it...provide a "translation" so you don't have to respond to the points he made and the question he asked.

Once again Yurt dodges questions put to him...while still demanding others answer his questions.
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l

I have yurt on ignore, I am sure with all his genius he could figure it out.
 
Thoth said:
Can anyone provide a good reason as to why drug testing shouldn't be mandatory to receive public assistance? Employers perform drug tests all the time. I fail to see how public assistance should be treated any different.
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drug screens can run afoul of the fourth amendment. they can be a pre-requisite for employment, but cannot be used for anything government related unless there's a warrant for it.
 
Rana said:
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I have yurt on ignore, I am sure with all his genius he could figure it out.
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uh huh....sure...that is why you thank my posts you agree with

:rolleyes:

face it rana you're timid, for some reason you love to get into insult spats with others, but refuse to debate me in any subject.
 
Cali lawmaker pleads guilty to shoplifting

A California lawmaker pleaded no contest Friday to stealing leather pants and other merchandise from a Neiman Marcus store in an incident her attorney blamed on a benign brain tumor.

Assemblywoman Mary Hayashi, D-Castro Valley, entered the plea in San Francisco Superior Court after the judge reduced a theft charge against her from a felony to a misdemeanor at a prosecutor's request.

Hayashi was arrested on Oct. 23 after surveillance cameras at the store at Union Square showed her walking out the doors with unpurchased merchandise in her shopping bag. She was accused of stealing nearly $2,500 worth of clothing.

Shortly after her arrest, a spokesman for Hayashi had explained that she was distracted by a cellphone call and forgot to pay for the merchandise.

Her attorney, Dennis Rappaport, said Friday that Hayashi was diagnosed with a benign brain tumor that contributed to the shoplifting incident.

"Now that Ms. Hayashi's medical condition resulting in her arrest has been taken care of, she decided that she would resolve the case as well," Rappaport said.

"Fortunately it's something that is curable and it's treatable," he added. "It is being treated. It's no longer affecting her concentration or her judgment."

Rappaport did not immediately respond to a request for proof of Hayashi's medical condition.


Hayashi, 44, who is married to Alameda County Superior Court Judge Dennis Hayashi, has represented Castro Valley since 2006 but can't run for re-election because she is termed out of office after this year.

Prosecutors said they agreed to reduce the charge to a misdemeanor because Hayashi was willing to enter the no-contest plea and had no prior criminal record.

"While the defense attorney never said anything about her health condition on the record, her condition never factored into our decision," said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for the district attorney's office.

Speaking at a news conference before the court hearing, District Attorney George Gascon said his office would accept the judge's decision.

"She is a first-time offender. She has no criminal record. So while what she did is inexcusable and she needs to be held accountable for her actions, I think it's appropriate to examine and explore all the different possibilities," Gascon said.
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now ask yourself, would any one of us have been given the opportunity to plea down to a misdemeanor from felony grand theft? not very likely.
 
Yurt said:
you're really going to compare welfare to retirement packages? wow. just wow.
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Yes...if we are going to drug test over a few hundred bucks a month in Government assistance, then any Congressman or woman receiving the wonderful, all inclusive retirement packages including full coverage healthcare they voted for themselves but that you or I don't get, then they should be tested also.

But I understand...you, as a clueless Rightie ass-kisser, don't believe our elected officials should be subject to the laws that govern us ordinary Americans.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Yes...if we are going to drug test over a few hundred bucks a month in Government assistance, then any Congressman or woman receiving the wonderful, all inclusive retirement packages including full coverage healthcare they voted for themselves but that you or I don't get, then they should be tested also.

But I understand...you, as a clueless Rightie ass-kisser, don't believe our elected officials should be subject to the laws that govern us ordinary Americans.
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1. you're wrong as usual. i don't kiss ass and i don't believe our elected officials should not be subject to the laws that govern us. before making untrue or wrong statements, perhaps you ought to ascertain my position first.

2. comparing welfare to work is a false analogy. getting benefits without being an elected official is entirely different. if you don't like their retirement packages, stop voting them into office, yeah thats right, because officials you have voted into office have voted for the packages. does this mean you're a leftie ass-kisser? you keep voting for them....
 
Yurt said:
uh huh....sure...that is why you thank my posts you agree with

:rolleyes:

face it rana you're timid, for some reason you love to get into insult spats with others, but refuse to debate me in any subject.
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It would help if you actually wrote some comments that stayed totally on point instead of diverging into personal asides.
 
christiefan915 said:
It would help if you actually wrote some comments that stayed totally on point instead of diverging into personal asides.
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ironic post is ironic....

it shows what a dishonest hack you are to claim i never write comments on point. my initial comments before dune insulted me, were right on topic. asking where is the hypocrisy is right on topic....but dune, of course only ad homed. but of course you don't have a problem with that. you ignore all off topic insults by your buddies zappa and dune. quite the double standard and you sometimes even thank them for their posts.
 
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