American Idol Star Involved in Hate Crime

A hate crime is doing violence to a minority because they are a minority. It is not simply doing violence to a minority. That is ignorance. There has to be intent, because intent and state of mind are the most important parts of criminal law.
 
No disrespect Alias but when you are calling someone a bigot in another thread for religious bigotry and then in this thread you use the term queer in a deragatory manner it comes across as pretty hypocritical. You may not care, and that is your right, but I'm just stating what's pretty obvious.

And to answer the question I'm guessing you would ask gay people don't call themselves queer. Yes I am aware of the TV show but that is an exception. It's sort of like liberals who call Tea Party people Teabaggers and claim they do so because that's what Tea Party people call themselves. We all know what the intent behind using the word is.
 
Emperor Lusgelnio said:
A hate crime is doing violence to a minority because they are a minority. It is not simply doing violence to a minority. That is ignorance. There has to be intent, because intent and state of mind are the most important parts of criminal law.
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And we need the left to tell us what someone was thinking determines a "hate crime". Riiiiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt.

You have no idea what is in someone's mind and neither does anyone else.
 
cawacko said:
No disrespect Alias but when you are calling someone a bigot in another thread for religious bigotry and then in this thread you use the term queer in a deragatory manner it comes across as pretty hypocritical. You may not care, and that is your right, but I'm just stating what's pretty obvious.

And to answer the question I'm guessing you would ask gay people don't call themselves queer. Yes I am aware of the TV show but that is an exception. It's sort of like liberals who call Tea Party people Teabaggers and claim they do so because that's what Tea Party people call themselves. We all know what the intent behind using the word is.
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My culture calls homosexuals "queers". What happened to tolerance and multiculturalism?

I am not being "derogatory". No more derogatory than a couple TV shows who use the word in their titles. Now I want you to PROVE my state of mind in a court of law when I typed the word "queer".

 
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Alias said:
My culture calls homosexuals "queers". What happened to tolerance and multiculturalism?

I am not being "derogatory". No more derogatory than a couple TV shows who use the word in their titles. Now I want you to PROVE my state of mind in a court of law when I typed the word "queer".
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Fair enough. Hey, you are free to call people whatever you want. I'm not dumb however and I know you are using queer in a derogatory manner. It's pretty clear as day. When you do that then try and call others out for bigotry it rings pretty hollow. Just throwing out my unasked for $0.02.
 
cawacko said:
Fair enough. Hey, you are free to call people whatever you want. I'm not dumb however and I know you are using queer in a derogatory manner. It's pretty clear as day. When you do that then try and call others out for bigotry it rings pretty hollow. Just throwing out my unasked for $0.02.
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I'm no more hollow than the idiotic dumb morons on the left who dream up shit like "hate crime" and "hate speech. I'm making a point.
 
Alias said:
I see. So all you have to do is utter the word "NO" while beating up a queer and you're guilty of a "hate crime"? Fasciinating.
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Once again we find "Christian" Failias twisting other people's words to justify his hateful personal attacks.

...you da man Failias!
 
Alias said:
I see. So all you have to do is utter the word "NO" while beating up a queer and you're guilty of a "hate crime"? Fascinating.
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Alias did you even read the article? I would guess it's not a hate crime because the guy beating up the homosexual, was also homosexual, you might as well call a black man attacking a black man a hate crim. Domestic violence, maybe but even that's a stretch, its a pair of gay guys getting into a fight, and the cops showing up. As for the second article you posted that one's even more laughable, some college student graffitied a dorm and used the N-word and the college president called in the FBI because he considered it a hate crime. Are you guys serious? Find some real hate crimes, you know, like five Texas christans beating the shit outta a vocally gay man, thats a hate crime, some guys attacking a muslim woman wearing a burqua, that's a hate crime. This is stupid stuff that doesn't even deserve to be reported.
 
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