"Super Committee" decides to go full stupid

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Amazing, considering the potential consquences. Politicians have spent years showing us how idiotic, out of touch & shortsighted they can be. And now, in case there were any shreds of doubt remaining, any last standouts who had faith in DC, they give us a final confirmation that no, Virginia - there is no intelligent life inside the beltway.

A debt deal, given the timeframe, should have been ridiculously easy. I would love to see every single member of Congress lose re-election.
 
Amazing, considering the potential consquences. Politicians have spent years showing us how idiotic, out of touch & shortsighted they can be. And now, in case there were any shreds of doubt remaining, any last standouts who had faith in DC, they give us a final confirmation that no, Virginia - there is no intelligent life inside the beltway.

A debt deal, given the timeframe, should have been ridiculously easy. I would love to see every single member of Congress lose re-election.


Doing nothing results in $7.1 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade.
 
Amazing, considering the potential consquences. Politicians have spent years showing us how idiotic, out of touch & shortsighted they can be. And now, in case there were any shreds of doubt remaining, any last standouts who had faith in DC, they give us a final confirmation that no, Virginia - there is no intelligent life inside the beltway.

A debt deal, given the timeframe, should have been ridiculously easy. I would love to see every single member of Congress lose re-election.

There are no potential consequences. They'll simply amend postmortem. The idea that you can limit future legislation with current legislation is ridiculous.

Basically, before the "consequences" go into effect they'll change the rules on the fly.

And I agree. This should have been a no-brainer.
 
There are no potential consequences. They'll simply amend postmortem. The idea that you can limit future legislation with current legislation is ridiculous.

Basically, before the "consequences" go into effect they'll change the rules on the fly.

And I agree. This should have been a no-brainer.


And anything the Super Committee did could be changed at any point by any future Congress. The whole thing was stupid from the get go.
 
There are no potential consequences. They'll simply amend postmortem. The idea that you can limit future legislation with current legislation is ridiculous.

Basically, before the "consequences" go into effect they'll change the rules on the fly.

And I agree. This should have been a no-brainer.

only if they can get it past obama's veto
 
I want to post an interview with Bernie Sanders about this. I feel that everyone is creaming their panties over forcing the American people to "Take their tough medicine" as the little boy punk Luke Russert lectured us this week - that we've lost sight of reality. The reality is old people won't be able to buy food and medicine. I am so sick and fucking tired of this shit. Maybe there are people who are really eager to slavishly impress their masters by running up them and screaming "here take my pittance I don't need meat i can eat cat food master" but I ain't one of em.

BLITZER: Do you want this so-called super committee to reach a deal, a big deal by this coming week?

SANDERS: I want them to reach a good deal, a deal that's fair to the middle class and working families of this country that does what the American people want, which says no cuts in Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid, ask the wealthiest people in this country to pay their fair share of taxes, do away with corporate loopholes so that companies making billions of dollars a year in profits start paying some taxes.

BLITZER: But as you know, the compromise in the works has always been there would be some tax increases, which is what you want, but at the same time there would be cuts in what's called entitlement spending, including Social Security and Medicare.

SANDERS: Well, I think that position is way out of line with what the American people want. I just saw a poll today. Seventy percent of Republicans, of Republicans say do not cut Social Security. Numbers are higher for Democrats and independents. In this economic moment when so many people are hurting, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are enormously important. They are life and death issues.

BLITZER: Are you open to reforms in Social Security, for example, raising the retirement age?

SANDERS: No. I'm open to reforms by lifting the cap taxable income so that millionaires contribute more into Social Security so that it will be solvent for 75 years. Let's be clear. Social security has not contributed to one nickel to the deficit. Compare every benefit for the next 25 years has a --

BLITZER: Are you open to means testing for Social Security recipients, in other words, if you're a millionaire, do you still need to get a $2,000 a month check?

SANDERS: Yes, you do. No, you know why -- no, the millionaire should be asked to contribute more into it. Once you start with millionaire, trust me, next year it'll be those making $100,000, and in 10 years it will be those making $50,000 --

BLITZER: So you don't want to touch entitlement spending at all?

SANDERS: I want to make sure that in the midst of recession, when tens of millions of people are desperately hanging on, that you don't cut those people at the knees so that they become even more desperate. The issue now, Wolf, let's be clear, the richest people in this country are doing phenomenally well, large corporation, record- breaking profits. You do not balance the budget in a civilized democratic society on the backs of the most vulnerable. You ask those people who are doing well whose effective tax rates are lower than in that case to start paying their fair share of taxes.

BLITZER: But you know even President Obama is open to some changes on Medicare and Social Security, for example, adjusting what's called the cost of living index so that there's less of increase every year to deal with --

SANDERS: President Obama is dead wrong on that issue. He should go back and listen to what he said during his campaign. You go and talk to senior citizens and you say, you know, the COLA that you're getting, it's too generous.

BLITZER: COLA is the Cost of Living Allowance.

SANDERS: Right. The Cost of Living, it's too generous. They'd say you're crazy. For two years in a row when prescription costs, health care costs were soaring, we didn't get anything. Zero is too generous? Nobody believes that. And again, the poll that I just saw, 70 percent of Republicans say do not go in that direction.

BLITZER: But based on if everyone took -- the Democrats took your position, there would be no compromise with the Republicans because they are adamant they don't want tax increases.

SANDERS: Then you go -- let's be clear, there is a situation there will be sequestration, which does not --

BLITZER: Automatic cuts, the triggers.

SANDERS: Military and others which do not begin, Wolf, until January, 2013. And then the American people can make a decision in this election, which side are they on? Do they believe and agree with Republicans that you give tax breaks to billionaires and you cut Social Security? If I were a Republican, believe me, I would not want to run on that proposal.

BLITZER: So what I hear you saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, senator, you would rather have what's called the sequestration, the trigger, the automatic cuts beginning in 2013, half defense, half non- defense, rather than some sort of compromise which would deal with entitlement spending like Social Security?

SANDERS: I would rather have no deal than a bad deal. And the deals that I'm hearing -- and in all fairness, I'm not on the committee. But what I'm hearing is revenue, maybe we get it from the middle class, maybe a little bit here and there. I'm not impressed by what I'm hearing so far.
 
Doing nothing results in $7.1 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade.

You know during the Clinton years a lot of cons (i used to actually talk to them then) told me that they didn't mind the impeachment crap because it tied Congress up and the less Congress did the better it was for the rest of us.

I now agree with that.

Gridlock please! Because if these two parties get it together they are going to deliver the fucking of ten lifetimes to us. You know what George Carlin said: The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.

And that is dead-on. Dead-on.
 
That's Carlin predicting what is happening right now. Thankfully, outside of message boards, I know of no Americans who want to slavishly surrender their Ss and Medicare - nor their children's. Thankfully, outside of message boards, Americans are looking to shiv the mf'er who comes for it.

Never, have a bigger collection of pussies gathered in one place, than on the internet.
 
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Some of us knew this was going to happen and why.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/12/the-debt-panels-profligate-pork-patty-murray-problem/
 
That's Carlin predicting what is happening right now. Thankfully, outside of message boards, I know of no Americans who want to slavishly surrender their Ss and Medicare - nor their children's. Thankfully, outside of message boards, Americans are looking to shiv the mf'er who comes for it.

Never, have a bigger collection of pussies gathered in one place, than on the internet.

Who thinks that SS & Medicare will be intact for their children?
 
BLITZER: Are you open to means testing for Social Security recipients, in other words, if you're a millionaire, do you still need to get a $2,000 a month check?

SANDERS: Yes, you do. No, you know why -- no, the millionaire should be asked to contribute more into it. Once you start with millionaire, trust me, next year it'll be those making $100,000, and in 10 years it will be those making $50,000 --

I'll ask it right now......why SHOULD someone who has a $100k income from dividends, rent and interest receive SS benefits?......

why does Bernie think they should....
BLITZER: So you don't want to touch entitlement spending at all?

SANDERS: I want to make sure that in the midst of recession, when tens of millions of people are desperately hanging on, that you don't cut those people at the knees so that they become even more desperate.

he wants to protect those people desperately hanging on to their $100k income from dividends, rent and interest.........
 
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Who thinks that SS & Medicare will be intact for their children?

Lift the cap and SS will be intact. There are no big problems with SS at all. We're being brainwashed and pounded to believe there are.

Medicare is actually a problem that needs serious people. But we don't have any of those. We have whores. Bought, paid for, and owned. But Medicare is not an insurmountable problem. And eventually it will be fixed, because it will have to be. We'll reach the point where even the dimmest among us will have to ask themselves; what kind of people are we? And even the most self-absorbed will have to wonder; do I want to die in the streets?
 
I'll ask it right now......why SHOULD someone who has a $100k income from dividends, rent and interest receive SS benefits?......

why does Bernie think they should....


he wants to protect those people desperately hanging on to their $100k income from dividends, rent and interest.........

No, he wants to protect SS for the rest of us. And he knows what you're too fucking stupid to know, and that's why your owners love you. They love you. They adore you. They probably should send you a card, but don't count on it..

What Sanders knows is that as soon as you allow means-testing of SS, SS will have begun its journey into non-existence.

Because it will allow your masters to slap a poor, and hopefully a black! face onto it, and call it welfare.

And then it's over.

And then your children die like poor street urchins. Which I really have no problem with, except that it will screw me too. So while fighting for my own interests, I invariably must fight for the interests of inbred morons who deserve to get what they're on their knees begging for. That bothers me, but, what are you going to do?
 
there is absolutely no serious crisis, it's FAUX crisis all the way. These tools are talking about cutting the grwoth in spending not spending cuts.
Even 2008 was a FAUX crisis.
 
Lift the cap and SS will be intact. There are no big problems with SS at all. We're being brainwashed and pounded to believe there are.

Medicare is actually a problem that needs serious people. But we don't have any of those. We have whores. Bought, paid for, and owned. But Medicare is not an insurmountable problem. And eventually it will be fixed, because it will have to be. We'll reach the point where even the dimmest among us will have to ask themselves; what kind of people are we? And even the most self-absorbed will have to wonder; do I want to die in the streets?

Darla, that's just not correct. SS is going to keep chewing up a bigger portion of the budget pie until it is wholly unsustainable. And what is tragic about that is that the more pie it takes, the less there is for many other progressive ideals to move forward.

By mid-century, life expectancies will exceed 100. Combined with exponential population growth & cost of living, SS will fail, in a big way. It's amazing to me how many times I have heard people brag that SS can stay the way it is until 2037, at which point we'll have to cut it by 25%. Do you want to be the politician who has to tell seniors that their checks are going to be cut by 25% in 2037? Or 40% 30 years after that?
 
SS is another FAUX outrage. Shit gets real the public will demand doubling the wages subject to withdrawl. Problem SOLVED
 
No, he wants to protect SS for the rest of us. And he knows what you're too fucking stupid to know, and that's why your owners love you. They love you. They adore you. They probably should send you a card, but don't count on it..

What Sanders knows is that as soon as you allow means-testing of SS, SS will have begun its journey into non-existence.

Because it will allow your masters to slap a poor, and hopefully a black! face onto it, and call it welfare.

And then it's over.

And then your children die like poor street urchins. Which I really have no problem with, except that it will screw me too. So while fighting for my own interests, I invariably must fight for the interests of inbred morons who deserve to get what they're on their knees begging for. That bothers me, but, what are you going to do?

Oh my God. You poor pitiful thing. Who wipes your ass and feeds you?
 
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