OWS Protesters: We don't need no stinkin jobs

Alias said:
Society has winners and losers. These are the losers and they will always be losers. You can't make life "fair". Some people just don't have what it takes. Reality.
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I have no problem with some people "winning" and others choosing not to put in effort, as long as the playing field is relatively level.

We're getting to a point where it isn't. Politicians are paid for and serve mainly the corporate & wealthy class. Also, higher education is starting to become something that is out of reach for many families, particularly private schools - it's a system that is starting to favor the wealthy class.
 
Onceler said:
I have no problem with some people "winning" and others choosing not to put in effort, as long as the playing field is relatively level.

We're getting to a point where it isn't. Politicians are paid for and serve mainly the corporate & wealthy class. Also, higher education is starting to become something that is out of reach for many families, particularly private schools - it's a system that is starting to favor the wealthy class.
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You like private schools? How about Charter schools?
 
It was finally admitted today, on this thread, that the Occubaggers are protesting Wall Street as a form of symbolism.
I guess breaking windows, defacing buildings, looting, and attacking the Police are just forms of symbolism also.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
It was finally admitted today, on this thread, that the Occubaggers are protesting Wall Street as a form of symbolism.
I guess breaking windows, defacing buildings, looting, and attacking the Police are just forms of symbolism also.
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And how would you figure that?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You're the one that brought symbolism up.
How do you explain these events then?
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I said that protesting Wall Street was symbolic. That doesn't = the idea that everything they do is symbolic. Again, I don't get that logic...is that what you were trying to say?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Then how do you explain those occurances?
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I still don't get it; you think that symbolism is the only way to explain violent occurences? Again, I just don't get the logic there.

I don't really understand them. They're the actions of a small few, and I haven't spoken with any of them or heard any justifications from them, so I can only speculate what their motivation would be.
 
Onceler said:
I still don't get it; you think that symbolism is the only way to explain violent occurences? Again, I just don't get the logic there.

I don't really understand them. They're the actions of a small few, and I haven't spoken with any of them or heard any justifications from them, so I can only speculate what their motivation would be.
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You are allowed to speculate, so go fo it.
How do you explain the acts of destruction that occured during the Occubagger protests?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You are allowed to speculate, so go fo it.
How do you explain the acts of destruction that occured during the Occubagger protests?
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It would be pretty haphazard speculation, but I would guess it's some n'er-do-wells who might not have anything do w/ the protest; the kind who generally use a big crowd or event to just commit vandalism or whatever.

If the perps were with the movement, their philisophical bent might be more that change can only be achieved through violence. I hope that isn't the case, but again, it's pretty haphazard speculation.

Any way you slice it, it isn't symbolism.
 
Onceler said:
I have no problem with some people "winning" and others choosing not to put in effort, as long as the playing field is relatively level.

We're getting to a point where it isn't. Politicians are paid for and serve mainly the corporate & wealthy class. Also, higher education is starting to become something that is out of reach for many families, particularly private schools - it's a system that is starting to favor the wealthy class.
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just out of curiosity, why don't you favor replacing those in government who have been bought and paid for?
 
Onceler said:
It would be pretty haphazard speculation, but I would guess it's some n'er-do-wells who might not have anything do w/ the protest; the kind who generally use a big crowd or event to just commit vandalism or whatever.

If the perps were with the movement, their philisophical bent might be more that change can only be achieved through violence. I hope that isn't the case, but again, it's pretty haphazard speculation.

Any way you slice it, it isn't symbolism.
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The local paper today claims that the Occupy Oakland was there cleaning up nd the destruction was one by a "rogue band"
of troublemakers.
 
Onceler said:
It would be pretty haphazard speculation, but I would guess it's some n'er-do-wells who might not have anything do w/ the protest; the kind who generally use a big crowd or event to just commit vandalism or whatever.

If the perps were with the movement, their philisophical bent might be more that change can only be achieved through violence. I hope that isn't the case, but again, it's pretty haphazard speculation.

Any way you slice it, it isn't symbolism.
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Then how come it seems to be part of the Occubagger protests and yet not part of the Tea Party protests?
 
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