Rand Paul grandstanding

I thought parliamentary procedures required a majority vote, not a unanimous one. Guess I was wrong.

The rest of the Senate could override the whining, spoiled brat, by taking time and resources away from other business.

The stance of the Pauliticians is puzzling.

None of them has a specific objection to the bill in question, but they are in favor of halting the entire US Senate so one mans' temper tantrum can be tended to.

I'd ask whether they'd support a single Democrat pulling this same procedural stunt, but I suspect none of them has the courage to answer that question.
 
Yurt said:
what? i did not side step anything. i know what the other republicans want, there is no reason to call them.

you're just pissed off because your double standard stinks and you know it. they aren't posting here, so why would i need to question them? you made a post, if you're too thin skinned to have someone respond to YOUR post and opinions, stop posting.

i am not defending republicans here. i flat out said the bill should be debated, so obviously i am AGAINST the majority of republicans. what the fuck is your problem?
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Now I'm convinced English is your second language, if not your third.

There is no double standard because only one issue is being discussed. I'm not comparing Paul's actions to anyone else's.

You're asking me to call Rand Paul, as if I don't know what he thinks. He's on the record, moron. I don't see any of the other repubs going on the record with their reasons for going with the majority, yet you claim to know what they think. Must be that Kreskin thing again.

Your knee-jerk inclination to take offense at whatever liberals say is the problem, IMO.
 
=christiefan915;876953]Now I'm convinced English is your second language, if not your third.

There is no double standard because only one issue is being discussed. I'm not comparing Paul's actions to anyone else's.
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you're really weird. your double standard is clear as day. let me explain. you said: "So why don't you use some of that indignation and call the 46 repubs who support the measure, and ask them why they didn't feel the need to debate?" so i asked if you had called paul. why don't you believe you should use some of your indignation to call paul and ask him why he feels the need to debate? that you feel that only i should be the one to call is a double standard.

i have no idea what you mean by comparing his actions to anyone else.

You're asking me to call Rand Paul, as if I don't know what he thinks. He's on the record, moron. I don't see any of the other repubs going on the record with their reasons for going with the majority, yet you claim to know what they think. Must be that Kreskin thing again.
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he is not on record with all his reasons. complete and utter bullshit. no one has gone on record, that is the POINT of why he wants the issue debated. he has stated some QUESTIONS he has, but it is completely untrue to state that he has given his reasons. his main reason is that he feels ONE AFTERNOON to discuss the bill is the wise course of action.

Your knee-jerk inclination to take offense at whatever liberals say is the problem, IMO.
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give me a break. capt has said the same thing and you aren't getting all bent out of shape. why don't take a step back and stop getting so personally offended when i discuss issues with you. further, i am against the pubs on this, so i have no idea how you're turning this into a "liberal" issue. talk about knee jerk.....
 
Apparently the Pauliticians think a single-handed filibuster is OK, as long as it's a Republican doing it.
 
Yurt said:
what? i did not side step anything. i know what the other republicans want, there is no reason to call them.

you're just pissed off because your double standard stinks and you know it. they aren't posting here, so why would i need to question them? you made a post, if you're too thin skinned to have someone respond to YOUR post and opinions, stop posting.

i am not defending republicans here. i flat out said the bill should be debated, so obviously i am AGAINST the majority of republicans. what the fuck is your problem?
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It's the same old complaint...that you're being a partisan douchebag again.
 
So predictable, and he dare not debate, because he will lose.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
It's the same old complaint...that you're being a partisan douchebag again.
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and no surprise, the board's biggest whiner about people not debating and instead insulting, does not debate and instead insults.

how is being against everyone republican, except one, partisan?

this ought to be interesting.
 
Yurt said:
and no surprise, the board's biggest whiner about people not debating and instead insulting, does not debate and instead insults.

how is being against everyone republican, except one, partisan?

this ought to be interesting.
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So the guy who just minutes ago had this to say to another poster:

Yurt said:
...you're just pissed off because your double standard stinks and you know it.

...if you're too thin skinned to have someone respond to YOUR post and opinions, stop posting.

...what the fuck is your problem?
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Wants to question the debating skills of others.

Physician, heal thyself.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
So the guy who just minutes ago had this to say to another poster:



Wants to question the debating skills of others.

Physician, heal thyself.
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i don't run around the board criticizing others like you do. i'm not surprised this flies above your head, either that, or you're a dishonest hack. and really, comparing this: partisan douchebag again - to what i said is disingenuous at best.

and i'm not surprised you couldn't back up your claim i was partisan. typical zappa, make a claim, then when asked to substantiate it, run away.
 
Another thread derailed by the Yurtroll?


Now, back to the topic, the obstruction of the peoples' business by gRandstand Paul and his fellow Pauliticians.



The government’s fiscal year ends this weekend, and FEMA decided it could make it to Saturday on spare cash that it had found in the sofa. Whew.

The Senate then voted 79 to 12 to keep the government running for the following seven weeks.


You may be wondering about the 12 people who voted against this idea.


They were all Republicans, and their most common argument was that they just wanted to make things work better.


“Americans are tired of gridlock and games in Washington, and so am I,” said Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri in a press release.


Way to battle gridlock, Senator Roy Blunt!


Marco Rubio of Florida, who is constantly being mentioned as a possible vice presidential candidate in the event the Republicans ever find someone to nominate for president, said that he had voted against the bill because he wanted to protest “this dysfunctional Washington way” of running the government.


This is a little like protesting the slowness of rush-hour traffic by abandoning your car in the center lane.




http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/opinion/collins-happy-tidings-from-the-hill.html?_r=1
 
Superfreak said:
You mean ones that actually debate the laws they are going to put into place?
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Tell me, do you hope other Pauliticians imitating gRandstand Paul pull the same stunt in the House?


But wait! There’s more! Remember when I told you the current fiscal year ends this weekend?


Congress is on vacation. So in order to get us through the gap, the Senate passed yet another spending bill, this one to keep things running for four days.


That was on a voice vote, depriving anybody of the opportunity to take a strong, principled, public stance against having government on Saturday.


It now goes to the House, where in one of those parliamentary thingies that drive us all to discussions of missing cats or the possible breakup of Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher, the bill is supposed to be passed on Thursday in an empty chamber.


If a single representative shows up and objects, the four-day funding bill is dead and the government shuts down this weekend.


But, of course, what would make anyone think that there could be a member of the House of Representatives crazy enough to make the trip back to Washington just to bring the entire federal government to a crashing halt?



“Actually, we’re holding our breath,” said one House staffer, who claimed that the Republican leadership had made a list of the most free-spirited members of the Tea Party cadre and got commitments from everyone to get through the weekend with the Grand Canyon open for business.


Which, if it works, would be pretty good news, don’t you think?


No one in the House of Representatives actually wants to single-handedly shut government down in its tracks.



Ever lower, goes the bar.




http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/opinion/collins-happy-tidings-from-the-hill.html?_r=1
 
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Another thread derailed by the Yurtroll?
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lmao. your BFF zappa is the one who started insulting and not talking about the topic, but you blame me. and as i said, you ignore all the points i make against your debates and only focus on ad homs.

you're afraid to debate me.
 
Let’s focus today on the fact that Congress appears to have reached a deal to keep the government operating for seven more weeks.


Think of all the things you’ll be able to do in October if there’s a government.


Camp out in a national park!


Mail a letter!


Fly to Omaha without fear that your plane will crash into a plane flying to Sioux Falls because of a lack of air traffic controllers!


Wage war in Afghanistan!


Life doesn’t get any better than that.


The latest stalemate in Washington has been over the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which had been running out of cash what with all the recent fires, floods, earthquakes, plagues of frogs and what have you.


Republicans wanted to balance any new FEMA money with cuts elsewhere.



Democrats said that when disaster strikes, the tradition is to pony up and deal with the financing issues later.



Republicans said yeah, and that’s how we wound up $14.7 trillion in the hole.


And then the Democrats said no way, we got the hole from the Bush tax cuts, and then the Republicans kicked them in the groin and everybody had to go to the emergency room.



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/opinion/collins-happy-tidings-from-the-hill.html?_r=1
 
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