Republican frontrunner and likely nominee, Its appropreate for Gay sex to be illegal.

SmarterThanYou said:
jesus christ, jarod. and the rest of you too.

look at the date of the article he posted. .......Wednesday, December 04, 2002.......

this case has already been decided by the USSC and the bullshit law ruled unconstitutional.
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How does that change anything? How does that change the fact that Perry took this position?
 
Jarod said:
How does that change anything? How does that change the fact that Perry took this position?
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is it any big surprise that perry took this position? no. what it shows though, is you trying to throw this mudpie without stating WHEN he took this position in the hopes that something sticks and the more socially freedom minded people realize that perry is establishment GOP. something you dont' really need to do because we already know.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
is it any big surprise that perry took this position? no. what it shows though, is you trying to throw this mudpie without stating WHEN he took this position in the hopes that something sticks and the more socially freedom minded people realize that perry is establishment GOP. something you dont' really need to do because we already know.
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I did not mention the date for the same reason I did not mention where he was located when he made the statement. It's not relevant to my point! The date was in my link, I did not try to hide it. He has not recanted.... And even if he did it's still outrageous to me that he ever took this position while governor of Texas!
 
Jarod said:
I guess I'd ignore this thread also if this guy were leading for my party's nomination to be president!
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There was no 'tea party' in 2002 and todays Tea Party has no nominee for the election in 2012...as a matter of fact....there is no official Tea Party.....

so try again jughead.
 
Jarod said:
How does that change anything? How does that change the fact that Perry took this position?
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Now I'm curious...

Are there laws on the books in this country that say "DEVIATE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE" is illegal, counselor......

Do you think we have the right to pick and choose what laws we will obey and enforce ?
 
bravo said:
There was no 'tea party' in 2002 and todays Tea Party has no nominee for the election in 2012...as a matter of fact....there is no official Tea Party.....

so try again jughead.
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Who said Tea Party? Im talking about the Republican Party.
 
We all know that the Tea Party is simply a shill for those who were embarrased to be called Republicans after Bush had his 8 years. Its nothing but a wing of the Republican party, created by insiders.
 
Jarod said:
We all know that the Tea Party is simply a shill for those who were embarrased to be called Republicans after Bush had his 8 years. Its nothing but a wing of the Republican party, created by insiders.
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is that how 'progressives' got started? too embarrassed to be called democrats?
 
Jarod said:
Who said Tea Party?
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You did...
Jarod said:
Small government Tea Party leader belives its approperate for government to police the bedrooms of citizens...

http://amarillo.com/stories/120402/tex_perrysays.shtml

Are you small government Republicans comfortable with having this guy be your nominee?
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Jarod said:
The reason I belive Perry will win the primary is a combination of factors. 1) He is way ahead in the polls. (see the below link) 2) The voters already know the number two, Romney and he is not exciting anyone. 3) The previous front runners were not creditable canidates, Perry on the other hand has built a national orginization and is the current governor of a major state. 4) Perry has demonstrated the willingness to play the game necessary to win the Republican nomination and has positioned himself as a rabid social conservative which appeals to the red meat of the Tea Party. 5) Essentally Perry is Backman but has a dick. Backmann suffers by the comparison of her to Palin and regardless of if they will admit it (even to themselves) or not, the conservative voters perfer not to vote for a woman.


http://pollingreport.com/wh12rep.htm
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Jarod said:
4) Perry has demonstrated the willingness to play the game necessary to win the Republican nomination and has positioned himself as a rabid social conservative which appeals to the red meat of the Tea Party.
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Maybe you need to quit demonizing the TEA party with innuendo and outright lies. The "meat" of the TEA Party is fiscal conservatism, fiscal responsibility. Otherwise, TEA Party membership is comprised of both social conservatives AND social liberals. While large numbers are "traditional" republicans hold to a fiscal and social conservatism, there are also large numbers of libertarians who can hardly be described as social conservatives. And there are also a goodly number of registered democrats who, also, can hardly be described as social conservatives. Maybe if your questions were not based on lies, you could get reasonable answers.
 
Good Luck said:
Maybe you need to quit demonizing the TEA party with innuendo and outright lies. The "meat" of the TEA Party is fiscal conservatism, fiscal responsibility. Otherwise, TEA Party membership is comprised of both social conservatives AND social liberals. While large numbers are "traditional" republicans hold to a fiscal and social conservatism, there are also large numbers of libertarians who can hardly be described as social conservatives. And there are also a goodly number of registered democrats who, also, can hardly be described as social conservatives. Maybe if your questions were not based on lies, you could get reasonable answers.
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Not sure if he is just purposefully misrepresenting what the Tea Party is about or is really that ignorant about them.
 
cawacko said:
Not sure if he is just purposefully misrepresenting what the Tea Party is about or is really that ignorant about them.
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Considering the number of reports and surveys done on the TEA Party, even by CNN, which relate that not all, or even a majority are far-right religious fundamentalist social conservatives, if he is going to fall under the heading of ignorance, it can only be deliberate ignorance.
 
Good Luck said:
Maybe you need to quit demonizing the TEA party with innuendo and outright lies. The "meat" of the TEA Party is fiscal conservatism, fiscal responsibility. Otherwise, TEA Party membership is comprised of both social conservatives AND social liberals. While large numbers are "traditional" republicans hold to a fiscal and social conservatism, there are also large numbers of libertarians who can hardly be described as social conservatives. And there are also a goodly number of registered democrats who, also, can hardly be described as social conservatives. Maybe if your questions were not based on lies, you could get reasonable answers.
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If that is true, why did Palin headline the last convention? Why does Perry poll ahead of all others when looking at those described at Tea Party voters? If the Tea Party is what you described I dont have a problem with them, but in action they appear to be turned on by social conservatism and promotion of a traditional Christian God being pushed on the populace.


If the Tea Party were what you claim it to be, Huntsman would be leading the pack, and he is at the back.
 
Jarod said:
If that is true, why did Palin headline the last convention? Why does Perry poll ahead of all others when looking at those described at Tea Party voters? If the Tea Party is what you described I dont have a problem with them, but in action they appear to be turned on by social conservatism and promotion of a traditional Christian God being pushed on the populace.


If the Tea Party were what you claim it to be, Huntsman would be leading the pack, and he is at the back.
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Palin was the VP Nominee at the last convention, rather than a leading spokeswoman for the Tea Party. Her address was to promote the ticket and McCain. I doubt she'll be invited to another RNC just to spout off TP talking points.

I personally like Huntsman the most out of the mainstream candidates. His resume as US Ambassador to China is an interesting experience to have in the modern world. He's also a moderate, which is cool.
 
Jarod said:
If that is true, why did Palin headline the last convention? Why does Perry poll ahead of all others when looking at those described at Tea Party voters? If the Tea Party is what you described I dont have a problem with them, but in action they appear to be turned on by social conservatism and promotion of a traditional Christian God being pushed on the populace.


If the Tea Party were what you claim it to be, Huntsman would be leading the pack, and he is at the back.
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Why should Huntsman be the tea party's leading candidate?
 
Elias Koteas said:
Palin was the VP Nominee at the last convention, rather than a leading spokeswoman for the Tea Party. Her address was to promote the ticket and McCain. I doubt she'll be invited to another RNC just to spout off TP talking points.

I personally like Huntsman the most out of the mainstream candidates. His resume as US Ambassador to China is an interesting experience to have in the modern world. He's also a moderate, which is cool.
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When she spoke at the convention the election had been over for some time.
 
Jarod said:
He is not a social conservative, except abortion, and he is a social conservative.
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If the Tea Party is about fiscal conservaticy (sp) why should Huntsman be the candidate because he is not a social conservative? That makes no sense.

What is his fiscal conservative record? Why should people choose him over Herman Cain or Ron Paul?
 
Ron Paul would also be a good choice for them, but if you poll them, Palin, who is not even running, gets 10 times the amount of votes.
 
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