A Conservative Lies? Say it ain't so!

[zappasguitar]

How about that? Ben Stein give O'Reilly the chance to PROVE his claims and the coward won't take it...


Conservative economist Ben Stein said Monday that he would eat Bill O’Reilly’s shoe if the Fox News host could prove raising taxes on millionaires actually hurts the economy.

O’Reilly began his “Talking Points” segment by asserting that the economy was better off when President Barack Obama was on vacation.

“You know that everything I said in that ‘Memo’ was true,” O’Reilly told Stein.

“Absolutely not,” Stein replied. “Almost every part of it is wrong. Except the part that I think it better if he’s on vacation because he works terribly hard and I think he deserves a vacation.”

O’Reilly went on to argue that raising taxes on the rich would make the recession worse.

“That isn’t true,” Stein said. “There is no correlation, Mr. O’Reilly, between taxes rates on millionaires and people above that level, billionaires, and the growth of the economy… Higher taxes have historically correlated with more growth.”

“Mr. O’Reilly, sir, there is no correlation of raising taxes and unemployment,” he added later. “If you can show it to me, I’ll eat your shoe.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/ben-stein-destroys-oreillys-talking-points-on-taxes/

 

[cawacko]

So what is the lie here? Is it because two conservatives disagree that one must therefore be a liar?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Correlation =/= causation.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

So what is the lie here? Is it because two conservatives disagree that one must therefore be a liar?

Fuck, you're stupid, Cawack-off.


"Raising taxes on millionaires actually hurts the economy".


A lie.

 

[zappasguitar]

So what is the lie here? Is it because two conservatives disagree that one must therefore be a liar?

If you want to look at it that way...

Their opinions are diametrically opposed. One of them MUST be wrong.

My money's on the partisan hack who begins his broadcast every night with the lie that his show enforces a "no spin zone".

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

If you want to look at it that way...

Their opinions are diametrically opposed. One of them MUST be wrong.

My money's on the partisan hack who begins his broadcast every night with the lie that his show enforces a "no spin zone".

So being wrong is now a lie?

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

So being wrong is now a lie?

If the one that is wrong keeps repeating the wrong conclusion, yes.

 

[cawacko]

So being wrong is now a lie?

That's what I'm wondering. I'm wrong all the time so does that mean I'm constantly lying?

 

[NOVA]

If being wrong equals a lie then pinheads are constantly lying.....

 

[zappasguitar]

So being wrong is now a lie?

If O'Reilly is right, why didn't he take Stein up on his bet?

To KNOWINGLY repeat incorrect conclusions is the same as lying.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Challenge for Teabaggers:


Explain how raising taxes on millionaires would hurt the economy, and provide evidence.


I'm not expecting much, so don't be afraid.

 

[zappasguitar]

If being wrong equals a lie then pinheads are constantly lying.....

Fortunately I never made the claim that being wrong equals a lie, so once you chuckleheads get done repeating that untruth, we can get back to the real discussion.

 

[cawacko]

If O'Reilly is right, why didn't he take Stein up on his bet?

To KNOWINGLY repeat incorrect conclusions is the same as lying.

So was any evidence presented to show that higher taxes correlate with higher growth? Do you have any evidence to show that because you are taking that position as the correct one and to disagree is a lying position.

 

[NOVA]

A Conservative Lies? Say it ain't so!.....OK, "It ain't so".....


A difference of opinions does not constitute lying...

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

this thread is hilarious because zappa ran away from stating he would back up his claims from now on. using zappa's logic, he lied in the thread about reps charging money.

seriously, this kind of intellectual dishonesty and partisan bullshit is old.

zappa:

prove the lie.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Fortunately I never made the claim that being wrong equals a lie, so once you chuckleheads get done repeating that untruth, we can get back to the real discussion.

lie. you have done so with me at least once.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

If O'Reilly is right, why didn't he take Stein up on his bet?

To KNOWINGLY repeat incorrect conclusions is the same as lying.

Because the bet is stupid?

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Because the bet is stupid?

Because the Bloviator can't back up his claim?

 

[Mott the Hoople]

So what is the lie here? Is it because two conservatives disagree that one must therefore be a liar?

I'm siding with Stein here. O'Leily's a douche bag. Ben has more brains then Papa Bear has ego.....ok, that's a lie.

 

[apple0154]

So was any evidence presented to show that higher taxes correlate with higher growth? Do you have any evidence to show that because you are taking that position as the correct one and to disagree is a lying position.

Check out the video between 7:28 and 7:40 "we had the highest growth in capital and productivity and in the economy in general in the 40's, 50's and 60's when we had much higher taxes." (Numerous studies show that to be the case.)

So, if there is a correlation between taxes and growth then it's obvious it's better to tax. If there isn't a correlation between taxes and growth then the extra taxes will not harm the economy and the extra money can be given to those in need.

Sounds like a win-win situation.