64% can't cover $1,000 emergency

[cawacko]

No children were polled, but nice try to spin your right wing bullshit.

So Ken writes that there are 312 million Americans and 64% can't afford $1,000 and I'm spinning some right-wing bullshit? Would you like to share some 'non right wing bullshit' with me and tell me how many people live in America and tell me what percentage is 17 and under?

 

[Bonestorm]

Actually, it picked up steam in the mid 1960's as I stated.... though the reasons are those that you stated. The population did not have as much money and little credit available. Those that began accumulating money in the 1940's and 1950's remembered to well what had occurred in the 1930's. As the boomer generation got older, the problem got worse. The 'greatest generation' lived through the depression. To this day, those still alive that were old enough in the 30's to remember the Depression are STILL very tight with their money and save far more than their kids/grand-kids etc...

Inflation adjusted wages/benefits. Square footage of homes, number of vehicles per household, consumer electronics, overall lifestyle...

The cost of goods is irrelevant. If they are cheap here, they are cheap there. But if that bothers you, by all means, suggest another way to compare them. I would be happy to take a look at what you wish to compare. That said, our poor are better off than many middle class families around the world and are better off than the poorest in most other industrialized nations

I was thinking more about the range of inflation adjusted wages/benefits that comprises the "middle class." And I've explained to you why square footage isn't a good comparative metric. Vehicles isn't a good one either. In most of the developed world, vehicles aren't necessary. In the US, they are. And things like access to health care, food security, income security and the like are more important than used TVs as a metric of how well off the poor are.

 

[Rune]

I've always said that people who complain about how our poor live should visit some other nations and see how their poor live. I have a good friend who maintains the cable system for some housing projects in Birmingham. These are the poor in a relatively poor city, but the majority have cabletv and many have some pay channels. Go to any nation south of us and check where the poor live.

Go to Appalchia or Philidelphia or Washinton DC or Detroit or (name any city) and see how the poor live.

 

[WinterBorn]

Go to Appalchia or Philidelphia or Washinton DC or Detroit or (name any city) and see how the poor live.

And compare them to the poor in Mexico or some country in South America? Sure!

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

I say we give them all amnesty if they agree to live in Detroit. Plenty of available housing there.

Fine with me. I'd make BIG money fixing those suckers up for habitation. And fine Hispanic women.

 

[Bfgrn]

I say we give them all amnesty if they agree to live in Detroit. Plenty of available housing there.

There is always ignorant stereotyping and hints of racism just below the surface with you right wing scum. Here are some FACTS for your tiny little pea where liberals have a brain...

Characteristics of Rural and Urban Populations:

• Approximately 7.3 million rural Americans were poor in 2005, or 15.1% of the rural population. In contrast, 12.5% of individuals in urban areas were poor.

• The urban poor are racially diverse with a mixture of White (40.4%), Black (25.2%), and Hispanic (28%).

• In contrast, the majority of rural poor are White (66.3%).

• Hispanics are the fastest growing ethnic group in rural America.

• Urban minorities experience much lower poverty rates than rural minorities.

• Poverty rates are highest in the core cities (e.g., St Louis) and the remote rural counties.

• Rural family rates of unemployment, underemployment, and mortality are higher than for urban families.

• Rural counties experience persistent poverty (poverty rates of 20% or higher from 1970 to 2000) at a higher rate than urban counties.

• 88% of persistent poverty counties are rural.

• 18% of rural counties are persistent poverty counties, versus only 4% of urban counties.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

There is always ignorant stereotyping and hints of racism just below the surface with you right wing scum. Here are some FACTS for your tiny little pea where liberals have a brain...

Characteristics of Rural and Urban Populations:

• Approximately 7.3 million rural Americans were poor in 2005, or 15.1% of the rural population. In contrast, 12.5% of individuals in urban areas were poor.

• The urban poor are racially diverse with a mixture of White (40.4%), Black (25.2%), and Hispanic (28%).

• In contrast, the majority of rural poor are White (66.3%).

• Hispanics are the fastest growing ethnic group in rural America.

• Urban minorities experience much lower poverty rates than rural minorities.

• Poverty rates are highest in the core cities (e.g., St Louis) and the remote rural counties.

• Rural family rates of unemployment, underemployment, and mortality are higher than for urban families.

• Rural counties experience persistent poverty (poverty rates of 20% or higher from 1970 to 2000) at a higher rate than urban counties.

• 88% of persistent poverty counties are rural.

• 18% of rural counties are persistent poverty counties, versus only 4% of urban counties.

Or maybe he was making a joke at me because I live in Detroit. Ya know, since we're friends and all. A hard concept for you to understand I know.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

1. Whatever. Don't even bother trying to prove this absurdity.

So, because I have facts and data actually on my side, I shouldn't bother trying to prove it to you because it goes against what you wish to believe? Ok. Thanks for sharing.

2. Lie, plain and simple. The cost of food alone has more than trippled in relative terms since then, SuperShill. Never mind health insurance.

Do provide us links to your data. Obviously health care costs have gone up, thanks for sharing.... want to take a look at the primary cause of that? Or of food costs? I would be happy to educate you on those topics. Overall, they are better than they were in the late 70's... hands down. Double digit inflation, double digit unemployment. But do go on telling us how great they had it.

3. Far from few and far between Shill man. Just look at the percentage of U.S. children on food stamps, then shut your lying fucking mouth, neo-con shill.

ok... AND? OUR poor are STILL better off than most non-first world countries MIDDLE classes and better off than most first world countries poor.

 

[Alias]

All those poor poor people. What are we to do......I am wringing my hands at this very moment.......Oh my, what can we do.....I just started a little tear in the corner of my eye.........This is just terrible.......I don't know what to do......the right wing is going to pay for this............my bottom lip is starting to tremble.......Children are going to bed hungry in America.........I'm picking up the gun........I'm pointing it at my head............

 

[cawacko]

There is always ignorant stereotyping and hints of racism just below the surface with you right wing scum. Here are some FACTS for your tiny little pea where liberals have a brain...

Characteristics of Rural and Urban Populations:

• Approximately 7.3 million rural Americans were poor in 2005, or 15.1% of the rural population. In contrast, 12.5% of individuals in urban areas were poor.

• The urban poor are racially diverse with a mixture of White (40.4%), Black (25.2%), and Hispanic (28%).

• In contrast, the majority of rural poor are White (66.3%).

• Hispanics are the fastest growing ethnic group in rural America.

• Urban minorities experience much lower poverty rates than rural minorities.

• Poverty rates are highest in the core cities (e.g., St Louis) and the remote rural counties.

• Rural family rates of unemployment, underemployment, and mortality are higher than for urban families.

• Rural counties experience persistent poverty (poverty rates of 20% or higher from 1970 to 2000) at a higher rate than urban counties.

• 88% of persistent poverty counties are rural.

• 18% of rural counties are persistent poverty counties, versus only 4% of urban counties.

Wow dude, he was making a joke about Michigan because Billy lives there and we often rip on Michigan. Or is ripping on Michigan more right-wing scum?

 

[The Dude]

we aren't counting the under the table cash on the urban black poor. they sell a lot of drugs

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

we aren't counting the under the table cash on the urban black poor. they sell a lot of drugs

Mostly whites that sell drugs, at least around here.

 

[The Dude]

Mostly whites that sell drugs, at least around here.

lilly white Seatle?

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Thanks... as I stated, it progresses as the boomers got older. Yes, there was some in the 50's and early 60's, but it was miniscule compared to how it ramped up in the late 60's and beyond.

I was thinking more about the range of inflation adjusted wages/benefits that comprises the "middle class." And I've explained to you why square footage isn't a good comparative metric. Vehicles isn't a good one either. In most of the developed world, vehicles aren't necessary. In the US, they are. And things like access to health care, food security, income security and the like are more important than used TVs as a metric of how well off the poor are.

Ok.... do tell me more about the 'range' you wish to discuss... it would be helpful if you provide data links. Thanks.

Just because we have the land to build bigger homes, doesn't mean we need to be living in homes that size. As other countries show, we don't NEED to do it. Thus we do it for luxury purposes. The larger the homes we build, the more it consumes of construction materials etc... which drives up the costs of such materials. I am all for doing so if we are capable of it. The point is, we live beyond what we need to, BECAUSE WE CAN.

I agree, vehicles was a poor example... that is better used to compare the US today vs. the 1970's (or any other period) in the US.

health care.... everyone in this country has access to it. Thanks.

Food security... we are second to none here. We produce far more than we need. It is available to all. On a relative basis, I would be curious who you may think is better.

Income security... Let me guess, you are going to show me stats on how many UNION members each country has. Well, lets start with Greece. Tell me how secure they feel right now. (if I am wrong in the assumption, I apologize up front)

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

There is always ignorant stereotyping and hints of racism just below the surface with you right wing scum. Here are some FACTS for your tiny little pea where liberals have a brain...

Characteristics of Rural and Urban Populations:

• Approximately 7.3 million rural Americans were poor in 2005, or 15.1% of the rural population. In contrast, 12.5% of individuals in urban areas were poor.

• The urban poor are racially diverse with a mixture of White (40.4%), Black (25.2%), and Hispanic (28%).

• In contrast, the majority of rural poor are White (66.3%).

• Hispanics are the fastest growing ethnic group in rural America.

• Urban minorities experience much lower poverty rates than rural minorities.

• Poverty rates are highest in the core cities (e.g., St Louis) and the remote rural counties.

• Rural family rates of unemployment, underemployment, and mortality are higher than for urban families.

• Rural counties experience persistent poverty (poverty rates of 20% or higher from 1970 to 2000) at a higher rate than urban counties.

• 88% of persistent poverty counties are rural.

• 18% of rural counties are persistent poverty counties, versus only 4% of urban counties.

ROFLMAO.... you are such an ignorant hack....

Billy LIVES in Detroit. I was responding to BILLY. It was a fucking joke you ignorant twit.

 

[Onceler]

The question is...do we want a country where 3% of the people are billionaires or millionaires, and the rest make the equivalent of $50K a year?

Because that's kind of where it's headed...

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Or maybe he was making a joke at me because I live in Detroit. Ya know, since we're friends and all. A hard concept for you to understand I know.

This.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

lilly white Seatle?

Detroit. The city in the top right corner of my post.

 

[Alias]

The question is...do we want a country where 3% of the people are billionaires or millionaires, and the rest make the equivalent of $50K a year?

Because that's kind of where it's headed...

Why don't you lefties run your own lives and let Americans take care of themselves. We can get along very well without you worrying about something you really should have no control over. Do you think the American people can't educate themselves and make it through life without lefty dweebs indoctrinated with Marxist BS telling us how to live?

 

[Bfgrn]

ROFLMAO.... you are such an ignorant hack....

Billy LIVES in Detroit. I was responding to BILLY. It was a fucking joke you ignorant twit.

If those comments were out of character, I'd give you a pass...?????...?????...?????...nope...I stick by them. You are an ignorant right wing turd, you have proven that beyond any shadow of a doubt.