Liberty
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A BBA will surely raise everyone's taxes, while big business keeps their money out of the country.
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A BBA will surely raise everyone's taxes, while big business keeps their money out of the country.
But you did lie. It's worrying that you're unable to see that.
Where did I say that I don't give any responsibility to Obama & the Dems?
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yeah...it is a lie when your bullshit gets called. you do this every single time. instead of manning up and admitting it, you call the other person a liar. i have never lied on this board, not once. you have yet to say obama or the dems have any responsibility. all you've done is blame the tea party. if you believe obama and the dems are responsible, then just say it instead of being a petulant child and calling me a liar. it is really that simple onceler.
You lied right here on this thread. Pathological people are unable to see that.
My bullshit didn't get called. I said the TEA party is responsible for the view that closing loopholes = tax increases. They are, indisputably. There is nothing about that statement that says "they bear 100% of the responsibility for the failure of the debt plan," or that Obama and the Dems bear no responsibility.
I'm sure your non-pathological self realizes this, since it's pretty basic common sense. But you can't admit it now.
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what i have lied about? you have YET to put any responsibility on obama or the dems. that is the absolute truth. but go ahead, keep calling me a liar for truthfully calling your call bullshit, that way you won't have to deal with reality. i have not told one lie in this thread.
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post them up. i have not told one single lie. you just are incapable of admitting you're wrong and when your bullshit gets called, you stomp your feet and call the other person a liar. your statement above is a lie. i have lied more than i have told the truth....lmao.
post 5 lies i've told.
You said that I believed that Obama & the Dems are not responsible for anything. That's a flat-out lie; I have said they bear responsibility many times on this board. In the context of this thread, I was talking about the loophole concept, which = TEA.
So, you lied, or you can't read. Your choice, as always. It's both, actually; you definitely have a hard time reading, and you are definitely a liar (and a bad one).
Like I said, you have lied on this thread alone, and you keep repeatedly lying instead of facing the truth. I could probably go to the last 5 threads you have posted on & find 5 lies.
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still can't find a single lie huh...i lie more than i tell the truth, but you can't find five, let alone one...lmao
you should really see the way you post, it is truly embarrassing.
I found 2 so far, just from the past hour, and you completely fail to acknowledge them. You keep distracting & trying to deflect; why should I go to the trouble of searching for 3 more, which would be easy, when you'll just do the same?
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all you had to do was say that. i have not seen a single post where you hold them responsible. you claim to have done so elsewhere, ok. that doesn't make me a liar. if you held them responsible, then that makes me wrong. you could resolve this quite easily if you didn't act like a petulant child and start crying LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. if you held them responsible, then i'm wrong, my bad. it has nothing to do with reading because even YOU admit you have not held them responsible in THIS thread. quit being such a whiny baby onceler. sheesh.
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See that? You still refuse to acknowledge the lie.
Thanks for proving me right, yet again.
Bfgrn
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Like I said: DRASTIC spending cuts would HAVE TO be made to Social Security and Medicare if a BBA was passed. Children and elderly WILL starve if you right wing scum get your way. The problem is you are TOO fucking stupid to grasp the consequences of your right wing answer for everything...PUNISHMENT.
Balanced Budget Amendment: Bad for Seniors
Congress is considering several proposals that would amend the Constitution and require that annual spending levels not exceed revenue levels. This requirement would jeopardize all federal programs, including Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which would experience across-the-board cuts. Only defense spending during times of war or military conflict would be exempt from cuts.
The proposals do not make exceptions for unforeseen emergencies or economic downturns and could further harm a weakened economy. During an economic slump, government expenditures increase in the form of payments for unemployment insurance (UI), food stamps and Medicaid. These increased government disbursements are considered “automatic stabilizers.” A balanced budget amendment (BBA), however, effectively suspends the automatic stabilizers by requiring them to be offset with cuts in federal spending or tax increases, neither of which are advisable during a recession.
Most disturbing is that the BBA proposals balance the federal budget entirely through spending cuts and make it virtually impossible to do so through revenues (taxes). Since the proposals make it more difficult to raise revenues – a three-fifths or two-thirds vote (depending on the bill) is needed in both chambers – the measures are designed to protect the Bush tax cuts for the rich while balancing the budget on the backs of seniors and the middle class.
One such balanced budget proposal, H.J. Res. 1, would cap government expenditures at 18% of gross domestic product (GDP) by 2018. To meet this goal, Congress would essentially have to enact extreme budget cuts. Among other things, such cuts would include:
(1) adopting Representative Paul Ryan’s voucher plan to privatize Medicare;
(2) raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67;and
(3) raising the Social Security retirement age to 70. It would also require cuts so harsh that many of the most vulnerable would be left with absolutely nothing:
By 2021, such a budget would reduce the following programs in half: Medicaid; the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly food stamps), and Supplemental Security Income.
H. J. Res. 1 aims to scale back government spending to the early 1960s level, prior to the passage of the Medicare and Medicaid programs. This rollback in government spending would not adequately capture the current and future needs of the country. Given the aging population, rising health care costs, and the legacy of two unfunded foreign wars and a decade’s worth of costly tax cuts, it is unrealistic to expect to go back to those spending levels.
The balanced budget amendments are designed to protect the Bush tax cuts for the rich, while balancing the budget on the backs of America’s seniors and the middle class!
A balanced budget amendment would result in severe cuts to Medicare!
* It would raise the Medicare eligibility age to 67, voucherize the program and
impose even deeper cuts than the Ryan budget.
A balanced budget amendment would result in severe cuts to Social Security!
* It would raise the retirement age to 70
* Because the BBA would require that spending in any year be offset by revenues collected in the same year, Social Security could not use its reserves to pay benefits – even if it had balances in its trust fund, as it does today. Instead, it would be forced to cut benefit for millions of Americans
A balanced budget amendment would gut Medicaid and diminish low-income programs!
* The BBA would reduce the federal Medicaid contributions to states, thereby shifting costs on to the states, providers and Medicaid beneficiaries and seriously jeopardize nursing home and home care services for seniors and individuals with disabilities.
* By 2021, programs like Medicaid, food stamps and SSI would be cut in half.
A balanced budget amendment is bad for the economy!
* By requiring a balanced budget every year, no matter how the economy was performing, the BBA would force cuts in vital programs and spending JUST when the economy is weak or in recession - just the opposite of good economic policy.
http://www.retiredamericans.org/system/storage/24/00/0/947/fact_sheet-budget-balanced_budget_amendment_final.pdf
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Oh nooooo, cut taxes and spend money like drunken sailors and refuse to cooperate on ANYTHING that might benefit the the country so they can pout about Obama Repelicans would never, ever, ever have anything to do with it.
Me thinks someone has been drinking to much tea.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Are you sure you've never been to the States cause you NAILED IT! LOL LOL LOL
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That's not entirely true Grind. The teabaggers do give a fuck!
They give a fuck about all that tea they've been drinking.
They just don't give a fuck that it's going to ruin the country that or they are that clueless.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Dixie will still blame it on "Liberals".
