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Supreme Court Rules California Must Free Tens of Thousands of Inmates

sharply divided Supreme Court Monday affirmed a controversial prisoner reduction plan forced on California prison administrators that requires the state to reduce its inmate population by tens-of-thousands to ease overcrowding.

The 5-4 decision authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, a California native, is a wholesale acceptance of a ruling by a special three-judge panel tasked with resolving chronic overcrowding in the state's penal system. The February 2009 decision orders California to reduce its prison population that has at times run nearly double its capacity. Approximately 37,000 to 46,000 inmates will have to be released in order for the state to comply with the ruling.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ia-free-tens-thousands-inmates/#ixzz1NDzQ4OMi

i'm torn on this decision. constitutionally it seems sound, but i just don't see how the conditions could be so bad that it violates their constitutional rights. 3 squares a day, tv, go to college etc....and it sets a bad precedent.

i'll read it more later....
 
The Court found that conditions were so bad that there was a preventable or possibly preventable death in California correctional facilities every 5 to 6 days. I know that they get to watch TV and all, but access to adequate medical care for prisoners is kind of important, too.
 
Yurt said:
Supreme Court Rules California Must Free Tens of Thousands of Inmates

sharply divided Supreme Court Monday affirmed a controversial prisoner reduction plan forced on California prison administrators that requires the state to reduce its inmate population by tens-of-thousands to ease overcrowding.

The 5-4 decision authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, a California native, is a wholesale acceptance of a ruling by a special three-judge panel tasked with resolving chronic overcrowding in the state's penal system. The February 2009 decision orders California to reduce its prison population that has at times run nearly double its capacity. Approximately 37,000 to 46,000 inmates will have to be released in order for the state to comply with the ruling.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ia-free-tens-thousands-inmates/#ixzz1NDzQ4OMi

i'm torn on this decision. constitutionally it seems sound, but i just don't see how the conditions could be so bad that it violates their constitutional rights. 3 squares a day, tv, go to college etc....and it sets a bad precedent.

i'll read it more later....
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The Supreme Court, in a narrow 5-4 decision, has an upheld an injunction by a three-judge panel ordering California to release about 46,000 inmates -- more than one-fourth the state prison population -- over the next two years to relieve overcrowding.

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YURT FAIL
 
Yurt said:
Supreme Court Rules California Must Free Tens of Thousands of Inmates

sharply divided Supreme Court Monday affirmed a controversial prisoner reduction plan forced on California prison administrators that requires the state to reduce its inmate population by tens-of-thousands to ease overcrowding.

The 5-4 decision authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, a California native, is a wholesale acceptance of a ruling by a special three-judge panel tasked with resolving chronic overcrowding in the state's penal system. The February 2009 decision orders California to reduce its prison population that has at times run nearly double its capacity. Approximately 37,000 to 46,000 inmates will have to be released in order for the state to comply with the ruling.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...it could be so. A conservative court at that.
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David St. Hubbins said:
The Court found that conditions were so bad that there was a preventable or possibly preventable death in California correctional facilities every 5 to 6 days. I know that they get to watch TV and all, but access to adequate medical care for prisoners is kind of important, too.
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impossible. we've had many courts over the last few years tell us that conditions in jails and prisons are now so great, that there is no longer any common law right to resist unlawful arrests or entries.
 
David St. Hubbins said:
The Court found that conditions were so bad that there was a preventable or possibly preventable death in California correctional facilities every 5 to 6 days. I know that they get to watch TV and all, but access to adequate medical care for prisoners is kind of important, too.
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key word - possibly and the findings were made by a left wing judge...and i know for a fact if a right wing judge had made the opposite finding, you would disagree on principle. conditions now are now what they were at the time of the finding...that should have been given consideration. if i recall the lower court case there was much debate about the actual findings by the court. nonetheless, that is what the court ruled and that is why i'm torn on this, if in fact the conditions violate the 8th, then is the remedy to order their release? iirc....there are numerous other cases, including scotus, that have held the remedy is NOT to release them, but to make condiitions or treatment that do not violate their constitional rights.
 
Return of Dune said:
Typical Yurt. The five most pwerfull jurists in the world agree, but Yurt doesn't see how it could be so. A conservative court at that.
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another non response and incorrect at that...it was the liberals who decided this case moron

further, you dishonestly chopped my post up to make it say something i did not....read the first sentence and apologize. additionally, i don't recall you bitching about nigel, evince or other liberals bashing the citizens decision....for that matter, you have never once bashed a liberal for bashing a conservative decision....just more intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy from legion's boyfriend
 
Yurt said:
Supreme Court Rules California Must Free Tens of Thousands of Inmates

sharply divided Supreme Court Monday affirmed a controversial prisoner reduction plan forced on California prison administrators that requires the state to reduce its inmate population by tens-of-thousands to ease overcrowding.

The 5-4 decision authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, a California native, is a wholesale acceptance of a ruling by a special three-judge panel tasked with resolving chronic overcrowding in the state's penal system. The February 2009 decision orders California to reduce its prison population that has at times run nearly double its capacity. Approximately 37,000 to 46,000 inmates will have to be released in order for the state to comply with the ruling.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ia-free-tens-thousands-inmates/#ixzz1NDzQ4OMi

i'm torn on this decision. constitutionally it seems sound, but i just don't see how the conditions could be so bad that it violates their constitutional rights. 3 squares a day, tv, go to college etc....and it sets a bad precedent.

i'll read it more later....
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Yurt you really are a fucking asshole. '3 squares a day, tv, go to college etc.'...why don't YOU go take someone's place if you think it is a country club.
 
Bfgrn said:
Yurt you really are a fucking asshole. '3 squares a day, tv, go to college etc.'...why don't YOU go take someone's place if you think it is a country club.
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after you dickhead....they live better than a good portion of the world. that is a fact. why don't you call california and tell them that you will house as many inmates as you can.

do it now since you feel so bad for them. you don't give a shit about the victims, you only care that the inmates live as good as they did in the free world. that is psychotic.
 
Yurt said:
after you dickhead....they live better than a good portion of the world. that is a fact. why don't you call california and tell them that you will house as many inmates as you can.

do it now since you feel so bad for them. you don't give a shit about the victims, you only care that the inmates live as good as they did in the free world. that is psychotic.
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Hey you fucking Nazi, they are LOCKED UP. They are not free to come and go. And NO ONE see what goes on in those prisons.

I would bet more than half could and should be released. We need to lock up violent criminals...that is IT. This country is turning into a fucking police state, and you fucking asshole Nazi airheads think prison is a country club. WTF is wrong with you, were you raised by wolves?
 
Bfgrn said:
Hey you fucking Nazi, they are LOCKED UP. They are not free to come and go. And NO ONE see what goes on in those prisons.

I would bet more than half could and should be released. We need to lock up violent criminals...that is IT. This country is turning into a fucking police state, and you fucking asshole Nazi airheads think prison is a country club. WTF is wrong with you, were you raised by wolves?
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the court said over 40,000 must be released. why don't you take them in? you care about them so much.

and the whole "you're a nazi"....sure sign you lost the argument and are a fool indeed. yeah....3 squares a day, college degrees, tv, etc....yeah...how nazi...

you want people who steal, burglarize homes to run free....who the fuck raised you, charles manson?
 
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after reading more of the decision....the court did leave open the alternative that CA could extend the time to release the inmates in order to remedy the wrongs....so CA has an out and we won't be seeing a mass exodus in the next couple of years.

still unsure of my opinion on this case
 
Yurt said:
after you dickhead....they live better than a good portion of the world. that is a fact. why don't you call california and tell them that you will house as many inmates as you can.

do it now since you feel so bad for them. you don't give a shit about the victims, you only care that the inmates live as good as they did in the free world. that is psychotic.
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I am dishonest? How many years did it take the prisoners lawsuit to reach the Supreme Court? Do you even know? I would like to see you spend one 24 hour day in one of those prisons, then you could honestly opine on how well they live. You are a pathological liar who is unaware of his pathology. Additionaly you are a judgemental peice of shit.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
what if they release those who aren't US citizens back in their own countries?........
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Actually, if they follow Federal law they are supposed to notify ICE before they release any of them and hold them until ICE picks them up. It is also a felony to re-enter the US if you were deported for a conviction. So, the only people who actually commit a felony entering the US are those who are illegals who are deported as they get out of prison (if they were convicted of a felony that is),.
 
Yurt said:
the court said over 40,000 must be released. why don't you take them in? you care about them so much.

and the whole "you're a nazi"....sure sign you lost the argument and are a fool indeed. yeah....3 squares a day, college degrees, tv, etc....yeah...how nazi...

you want people who steal, burglarize homes to run free....who the fuck raised you, charles manson?
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Tell you what Yurt, either human nature made a sudden and drastic change around 1980, or we have too many laws.

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