Many fewer U.S. gun owners

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¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;812413 said:
Says who?

"statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold. Based on varying state laws and purchase scenarios, a one-to-one correlation cannot be made between a firearm background check and a firearm sale."

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nic...oundChecks.pdf
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Based on the fact that I maintain an FFL. In order to process an NICS transaction a minimum of 1 firearm is to be sold. I can sell as many as the purchaser desires per check, but it has to be at least one. Therefore, the MINIMUM number of guns sold is a 1-1 correlation. The MAXIMUM is incalculable.
 
NICS checks come with a transaction number. Thuis goes into the FFL book, along with other information regarding the purchase. If I were to perform an NICS check without an actual transaction, a discrepancy would appear if my books were audited. That would most likely lead to a few years in prison. So in short, if you perform an NICS check, you are selling a minimum of 1 firearm to an individual.
 
So your position is that the statement "statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold. Based on varying state laws and purchase scenarios, a one-to-one correlation cannot be made between a firearm background check and a firearm sale" is a lie?
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;812572 said:
So your position is that the statement "statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold. Based on varying state laws and purchase scenarios, a one-to-one correlation cannot be made between a firearm background check and a firearm sale" is a lie?
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That is not what he said at all.

Do you know what a "one-to-one correlation" is? That means that there would be one firearm for every background check. And the holder of an FFL just told you, there is at least one firearm sold for every approved check, but possibly many more.
 
WinterBorn said:
That is not what he said at all.

Do you know what a "one-to-one correlation" is? That means that there would be one firearm for every background check. And the holder of an FFL just told you, there is at least one firearm sold for every approved check, but possibly many more.
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Are you his interpreter?

Interpret this: "statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold."
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;812586 said:
Are you his interpreter?

Interpret this: "statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold."
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The same interpretation.

If St Adolphus ran 100 NICS background checks that were approved, and sold one gun to 90% of them and 2 guns to 10% of them, he would have sold 110 guns for 100 checks initiated through NICS. So the number of checks does not represent the number of guns sold.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;812572 said:
So your position is that the statement "statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold. Based on varying state laws and purchase scenarios, a one-to-one correlation cannot be made between a firearm background check and a firearm sale" is a lie?
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No, my position is that the NICS checks represent a MINIMUM NUMBER OF GUNS SOLD.
 
St. Adolphus said:
That would indicate that gun owners are far better of financially then non gun owners.
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Those participating in outdoor sports like hunting and fishing are apparently doing well. Throughout this recession I have not seen a Bass Pro Shop or Cabela's with an empty parking lot. Most of the time they are over half full.
 
Topspin said:
better of what
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Oh the irony of you correcting my spelling. I meant better OFF, not of. As in your assertion would mean gun owners are in general substantially more wealthy than non gun owners in order to facilitate the increase in gun sales.
 
Hey crack on a old cajun for spelling, then get you'er panties all up in ya vagina when it comes back.
Douche Nozzle
 
Topspin said:
I didn't assert that at all, I'd say they are better at collecting guns and GED's and cousin/wives.
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Well how else are they able to buy more guns? Especially expensive guns like the AR15? The absolute cheapest AR15 you can buy runs around $600, and can go upwards of $3500.
 
WinterBorn said:
The same interpretation.

If St Adolphus ran 100 NICS background checks that were approved, and sold one gun to 90% of them and 2 guns to 10% of them, he would have sold 110 guns for 100 checks initiated through NICS. So the number of checks does not represent the number of guns sold.
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Naturally, attempting to verify that "St Adolphus" has a valid FFL at https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/ is not problematic for you?
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;812615 said:
And you can quantify that statement....how?
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Did you read his statement about what happens if he runs an NICS check, gets an approval and DOESN'T sell a gun?
 
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