Osama Bin Laden DEAD!

Ice Dancer said:
Would you rather have not captured bin Laden? Why do your support ridiculous and ineffective airport harassment of millions that saves and protects no one, over enhanced interrogations (not torture) of 3 known terrorist's instead?
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We disagree on torture. I think waterboarding is torture; I'm not alone.

And yeah - I'd rather not catch Bin Laden than have America be a country that tortures...
 
Onceler said:
You're afraid to answer it. Your only argument on this is that "it worked!", ergo, the ends justify the means.

Do you support torture, or not?
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I've never supported torture, and I don't believe the US has ever used torture. That is YOUR assessment of waterboarding, not mine.

The ends (killing OBL) was most certainly justified by the means (pouring some water on terrorists). If you had rather have OBL roaming the Earth so you can call yourself politically correct, that's YOU... not ME! I would rather have OBL dead, personally... to hell with political correctness.
 
Ice Dancer said:
Would you rather have not captured bin Laden? Why do your support ridiculous and ineffective airport harassment of millions that saves and protects no one, over enhanced interrogations (not torture) of 3 known terrorist's instead?
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Right on cue, when Dumb Yankee is in trouble, his web-wife Ms. Damn Stankee rushes to his aid.

Waterboarding is torture, toots.
 
Southern Chicken said:
Show where the US Code(law) is not factual and is based on opinion....then you might have something
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Don't be a retard, of course the US Code is based on opinion. It's written at the behest of legislators. Legislators can write whatever laws that they want, but they can't change the facts.
 
Ice Dancer said:
I do not believe it is torture and I am not alone...way to argue a point.
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Calling it an "enhanced technique" is the most BS euphemism I've ever heard. As I said on another thread, I'd accept "milder form of torture," but torture it is.

And the guy you voted for President last time agrees w/ me, as do many on the right & in the military. This isn't some wacked out leftie thing.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810241 said:
Dumb Yankee doesn't have the guts to try being waterboarded himself, but he claims it isn't torture.
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This is a retarded argument as well. Because I want or don't want to do something doesn't change the meaning of a word, Retardber
 
Ice Dancer said:
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Your excitement must've affected your hearing, Ms. Damn Stankee.

Rummy said waterboarding isn't torture.

He said it works.

He said it produced valuable intel.

Rummy didn't say waterboarding got Osama.

Did you think that someone waterboarded Osama's location out of a terrorist and then sat on the info for years?
 
Onceler said:
Calling it an "enhanced technique" is the most BS euphemism I've ever heard. As I said on another thread, I'd accept "milder form of torture," but torture it is.

And the guy you voted for President last time agrees w/ me, as do many on the right & in the military. This isn't some wacked out leftie thing.
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Yet another retarded argument. Just because other folks agree with you doesn't change the definition of a word.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810259 said:
"When asked during an interview on MSNBC Tuesday morning if waterboarding directly lead to bin Laden, Obama’s top counterterrorism advisor John Brennan responded “not to my knowledge.” In addition, an Associated Press story that cites former CIA officials attribute the bin Laden information to standard interrogation perfrormed months after Mohammed was subjected to the technique."


http://www.talkradionews.com/topsto...boarding-didnt-reveal-bin-laden-location.html


So, Dixtard, you cling to the pathetic notion that the CIA knew where Osama was years ago because they tortured it out of somebody, but didn't do anyhting about it until this week?
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But that isn't what I said, pinhead. That's what you wanted to claim I was saying, and I explained it to your dumb ass... but I guess you didn't comprehend it.... let's try again.... it took years to piece together all the information, some of which, came from two of the three known people to undergo waterboarding by the CIA. Your only argument is, the information was revealed AFTER being waterboarded... but as I said, I doubt people talk very much when water is shooting up their nose... have you ever tried that? It's not unfathomable that KSM divulged the information later, perhaps out of fear of being waterboarded again? Slice and dice it however you like, two of the three we waterboarded, handed us the information which led to the killing of OBL.
 
Onceler said:
Calling it an "enhanced technique" is the most BS euphemism I've ever heard.
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In your opinion.
As I said on another thread, I'd accept "milder form of torture," but torture it is.
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In your opinion

And the guy you voted for President last time agrees w/ me, as do many on the right & in the military. This isn't some wacked out leftie thing.
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No one said people do not disagree...but disagreements are not facts and prove nothing except that people disagree over a controversial issue...that's it oncie.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Don't be a retard, of course the US Code is based on opinion. It's written at the behest of legislators. Legislators can write whatever laws that they want, but they can't change the facts.
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The above Doesnt answer the question.....SHOW WHERE IT DOES.."Legislators can" does not proof that they did
 
Southern Chicken said:
The above Doesnt answer the question.....SHOW WHERE IT DOES.."Legislators can" does not proof that they did
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Holy shit just when I thought the 'tardness couldn't get any worse, there you go.

The code exists, therefore it was written. It was written at the behest of Legislators. Legislators write codes based on their opinions and agendas, otherwise they would simply rely on the dictionary definition of words.
 
Ice Dancer said:
No one said people do not disagree...but disagreements are not facts and prove nothing except that people disagree over a controversial issue...that's it oncie.
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I understand that people disagree on it, but to me, it's pretty clear.

My main objection on this & the other threads is that the MAIN argument that I have seen for it is simply that it works, which you could possibly say about any form of torture. I suppose at least DY has tried to make an argument for it, by saying that it isn't torture under the dictionary definition - but even that is wrong.
 
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