Are whites racially oppressed?
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Based Chad
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See my above responses.
The ones who GOT diplomas obviously were not kept out due to racial discrimination, but some whites were, due to their skin color.
cawacko
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Have you, or anyone in your family, been denied a school admission or job due to being a cracker?
cawacko
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Ok, joking aside you need to tighten up your argument. There are thousands of colleges. So lets say AA caused a white guy to get rejected by one school, it is not preventing him from getting a diploma from another university. Your argument needs to get a lot more specific and show how AA kept someone out of a top university and they had to go to a lessor university and lost a lot of potential future revenue as a result.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Not so fast....YOU stated that white folk in America are being "oppressed"...I asked you for proof of this within the definition of the word "oppressed"...to date, nothing from you.
As I pointed out in Post #94, you are NOT providing proof of your broad assertions, nor are you presenting a stable argument, as you switch between "oppressed" and "discriminated". Now you say some whites were discriminated against to the point that they were denied diplomas!
Please provide examples of such beyond your personal opinion.
wanderingbear
Radical liberal
No matter which side your on somebody is going to hate you for it.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
I don't hate you for being a loser liberal.
Based Chad
Was it me?
Not so fast....YOU stated that white folk in America are being "oppressed"...I asked you for proof of this within the definition of the word "oppressed"...to date, nothing from you.
As I pointed out in Post #94, you are NOT providing proof of your broad assertions, nor are you presenting a stable argument, as you switch between "oppressed" and "discriminated". Now you say some whites were discriminated against to the point that they were denied diplomas!
Please provide examples of such beyond your personal opinion.
I take license at this juncture to once again effectively assert that racial discrimination is oppression.
It's not my opinion that affirmative action programs exist; it's a verifiable honest and true fact.
Based Chad
Was it me?
Two problems here:
A. Victims are not told why they are being denied the spot.
B. My personal experience is anecdotal at best. One free black man during the slavery era doesnt mean slavery wasn't wrong.
Based Chad
Was it me?
So are you saying that minorities are not as intelligent or as qualified enough as to meet the same criteria(s) as white(s)? Hmmmm, I just want to know where youre coming from on this...(Not calling you a Racist or anything) Can YOU provide evidence where "several top tier candidates to be passed over because they are white and they are male"?
If so LINK US UP to some stats......If not youre offering us an opinion(as AZZHAT does on this subject). Some people are going to believe me, some are not. I can't change that no matter how much information I provide. No matter what scenarios I offer, people will continue to believe what they want to believe, and there's really no way to debate with anyone who refuses to question what they THINK they know about something (which is usually based solely on assumptions). Again AA is not a hand out as you would have people think. It is a program to assist minorities with the qualifications that companies seek have an equal ACCESS at the position.
The "evidence" is that AA was created in the first place.
In a perfect world this may exist for the majority of cases but I got to tell you a little secret......Now pay attention...........RACISM STILL EXISTS TODAY.
A little fact that most people probably are unaware of: Veterans, women, and people with disabilities (if memory serves me correctly, this is referring to physical disabilities, such as those requiring the use of wheelchairs, etc.) are covered under AA. It's HARDLY just a black/white issue but the media and information strewn about and pawned off as "fact" sure would lead us to believe that it is.
I wont lose sleep being concerned over your responding to my post----
I will just follow my signature line below in reference to you.
Are you saying that affirmative action and other various diversity programs don't exist? Im sure you're not.
How do they work if not by providing favoritism towards the "historically oppressed" identities? where there's favoritism there's discrimination.
I would like to hear your alternate description of how these programs work in practice. If not through discrimimination, how do they work?
Based Chad
Was it me?
All you bitches are on the ropes. Booyah.
christiefan915
Catalyst
If victims aren't told, how can they think it's AA rather than any other criteria schools use?
Based Chad
Was it me?
Because all schools have aa and diversity policies. They advertise it in their brochures as a selling point. Those programs never HELP white people, fyi. Assumptions can be made.
I am Ali, and rope a dope is my fame! Booyah
Based Chad
Was it me?
Gee, your hair smells terrific.
I actually remember this, yikes
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Not so fast....YOU stated that white folk in America are being "oppressed"...I asked you for proof of this within the definition of the word "oppressed"...to date, nothing from you.
As I pointed out in Post #94, you are NOT providing proof of your broad assertions, nor are you presenting a stable argument, as you switch between "oppressed" and "discriminated". Now you say some whites were discriminated against to the point that they were denied diplomas!
Please provide examples of such beyond your personal opinion.
I take license at this juncture to once again effectively assert that racial discrimination is oppression.
You can take the next train to Altoona for all I care....but you DO NOT have the ability to change the definitions of words whenever necessary to fit your supposition and conjecture, let alone your opinion. No legal or academic professional would let that slide (the nuns from my grade/high school would laugh as they flunked the person who tried to pass off what you're trying to do here) That's just plain BS on your part.
It's not my opinion that affirmative action programs exist; it's a verifiable honest and true fact.
WTF are you babbling about now? You're making a moot point that I never challenged. Stop stalling, Asshat....YOU made some assertions that have been challenged. The burden of proof is on you. If you can't meet the challenge, at least have the maturity to admit as such and stop wasting time and space.
Based Chad
Was it me?
Dear Dumbass,
Affirmative Action functions by racial discrimination against whites. Racial discrimination is always oppression.
Southern Chicken
Verified User
You can read the links I provided in this thread to see"how they actually(not your assumption) work. BIGGER QUESTION is WHY do you think those programs exist(for laughs)
Simply put again-----
dis·crim·i·na·tion /dɪˌskrɪməˈneɪʃən/ Show Spelled
[dih-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn] Show IPA
–noun
2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
As for AA in general, there's a large (incorrect) belief held by the masses that AA is about people of color getting jobs they're not qualified for. Companies are basically encouraged to strive for equal representation based on individual merit (i.e. mirroring the national demographics), but not at the cost of the legitimacy of the job/position. While I know that DOES happen in some sectors (the military is the main one) and in the private sector it definitely happens because private companies (those that don't fall under AA/EO regs) don't have to comply with AA, in almost any job situation in the public sphere, you're not going to magically get a job if you're not qualified or less qualified than someone else.
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Southern Chicken
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IN OTHER WORDS YOU DONT HAVE PROOF........Also it is to note THAT ASSUMPTIONS CAN BE WRONG!!!! I see that all you offer are ASSUMPTIONS. AHZ, lets try something new for you on this subject........Please provide FACTS
ALSO NOTE******
Women benefit from AA more than any other group.
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