Majority of voters say dem agenda "extreme"

[Liberty]

False.

You said that you thought it was going to be great when the gov't could tell you where to live, what job you could pursue, what meds you could have, (if there was enough left in the budget) if you could pursue your dreams as a doctor. If the gov't approved of you being a doctor, you could have them choose what kind to be. And when you graduate you can see if you can move to a city of your choice to practice. That is if that's approved by the gov't. They may need you somewhere where they have a need. Much more.

Yes, the dem policies are really great.

 

[Jarod]

You said that you thought it was going to be great when the gov't could tell you where to live, what job you could pursue, what meds you could have, (if there was enough left in the budget) if you could pursue your dreams as a doctor. If the gov't approved of you being a doctor, you could have them choose what kind to be. And when you graduate you can see if you can move to a city of your choice to practice. That is if that's approved by the gov't. They may need you somewhere where they have a need. Much more.

Yes, the dem policies are really great.

Nope, I never said those things.

 

[Liberty]

Nope, I never said those things.

Maybe you don't really know what you're saying, and supporting.

 

[Jarod]

Maybe you don't really know what you're saying, and supporting.

Maybe you don't really know what I am saying and supporting.

 

[Liberty]

Maybe you don't really know what I am saying and supporting.

You said, "the Democratic adgenda is extreemly good".

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

35 of the 100 respondents considered themselves to be conservative or very conservative, the rest are moderate, liberal or very liberal. That kind of makes even more of an indictment against Obama and the dems.

Interesting, but I think Rasmussen comes closer to voter results as he uses only likely voters.

BTW your graph was not there...too embarrassed to post where it was from???

35%? That is actually down severely.

If you ask people if they're "progressive" instead of "liberal" you usually get results on par with conservatives. And one problem with Rasmussen is that he essentially has two shields against unlikely voters. The robocall is usually enough to deter most unlikely voters, but he also applies a likely voter model on top of that. Most other pollsters just apply a likely voter model.

 

[christiefan915]

You said that you thought it was going to be great when the gov't could tell you where to live, what job you could pursue, what meds you could have, (if there was enough left in the budget) if you could pursue your dreams as a doctor. If the gov't approved of you being a doctor, you could have them choose what kind to be. And when you graduate you can see if you can move to a city of your choice to practice. That is if that's approved by the gov't. They may need you somewhere where they have a need. Much more.

Yes, the dem policies are really great.

What dem policy articulates the above?

 

[Canceled2]

35%? That is actually down severely.

If you ask people if they're "progressive" instead of "liberal" you usually get results on par with conservatives. And one problem with Rasmussen is that he essentially has two shields against unlikely voters. The robocall is usually enough to deter most unlikely voters, but he also applies a likely voter model on top of that. Most other pollsters just apply a likely voter model.

All of this is fine and good...but it negates a very real point-Rasmussen is very accurate in every election.

 

[Canceled2]

No problem.

Rasmussen doesn't disclose his demographics, who he determines is a likely voter or how that determination is made. All we know is that he changes his likely voter model over time as an election nears which ends up getting good results, but this far out from an election his results typically favor Republicans due to his likely voter model (what we know of it anyway).

On Ezra Klein, I didn't post his spin. I simply posted a chart based on the poll results. And the sampling isn't all that wacky, certainly not wacky enough to explain the extreme dislike of Republicans and low favorability ratings.

When only 1/3 of the respondents identify as conservative it makes all the difference.

It was that you and Ezra shared the spin.

 

[Liberty]

What dem policy articulates the above?

Judging from the past failed socialist governments, and ones still around, I'd start with 16th amendment, and the federal reserve. Then the department of education. Obama care. The drug issue. Immagration. And more.

Keep in mind though that these are not just dem policies,,, they're dem, and rep policies.

 

[christiefan915]

Judging from the past failed socialist governments, and ones still around, I'd start with 16th amendment, and the federal reserve. Then the department of education. Obama care. The drug issue. Immagration. And more.

Keep in mind though that these are not just dem policies,,, they're dem, and rep policies.

So your original post tying them to dem policies stands corrected. Thanks.

 

[christiefan915]

35%? That is actually down severely.

If you ask people if they're "progressive" instead of "liberal" you usually get results on par with conservatives. And one problem with Rasmussen is that he essentially has two shields against unlikely voters. The robocall is usually enough to deter most unlikely voters, but he also applies a likely voter model on top of that. Most other pollsters just apply a likely voter model.

Here's a great article from pollster.com on Rasmussen based on likely voters, different questions and automated methodology.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/why_is_rasmussen_so_different.php

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

All of this is fine and good...but it negates a very real point-Rasmussen is very accurate in every election.

Yeah, but I believe he tightened it further since the election. Is have to look up an old 538 post though.

 

[Bonestorm]

Yeah, but I believe he tightened it further since the election. Is have to look up an old 538 post though.

Rasmussen tightens his "likely voter" model as each election approaches. That's why his pre-election polls are pretty good.

 

[Canceled2]

Rasmussen Reports Methodology

 

[Liberty]

So your original post tying them to dem policies stands corrected. Thanks.

Yes, They're not just dem policies.

 

[Bonestorm]

Rasmussen Reports Methodology

Methodology and demographics are not the same.

 

[Canceled2]

Methodology and demographics are not the same.

Demographics are the key ingredient in methodology.

Rasmussen uses Pulse Opinion Research:

Methodology
Pulse Opinion Research collects data for its survey research using an automated polling methodology. Automated polling systems use a single, digitally-recorded, voice to conduct the interview while traditional firms rely on phone banks, boiler rooms, and operator-assisted technology.

All survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time.

After the calls are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors. The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents.

For surveys of all adults, the population targets are determined by census bureau data.

For political surveys, census bureau data provides a starting point and a series of screening questions are used to determine likely voters. The questions involve voting history, interest in the current campaign, and likely voting intentions.

Pulse Opinion Research determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area.

 

[Bonestorm]

Demographics are the key ingredient in methodology.

Rasmussen uses Pulse Opinion Research:

Methodology
Pulse Opinion Research collects data for its survey research using an automated polling methodology. Automated polling systems use a single, digitally-recorded, voice to conduct the interview while traditional firms rely on phone banks, boiler rooms, and operator-assisted technology.

All survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time.

After the calls are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors. The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents.

For surveys of all adults, the population targets are determined by census bureau data.

For political surveys, census bureau data provides a starting point and a series of screening questions are used to determine likely voters. The questions involve voting history, interest in the current campaign, and likely voting intentions.

Pulse Opinion Research determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area.

Right, we have no idea what the underlined criteria are, which is where the honey is. We don't know the demographic breakdown of Rasmussen's likely voters.

 

[Canceled2]

Right, we have no idea what the underlined criteria are, which is where the honey is. We don't know the demographic breakdown of Rasmussen's likely voters.

LOL~~~ the honey is in how often he is acurate and "on the money".