In about two weeks, the war will end…

[Teflon Don]

It is really hard to keep up with all of Veruca's desperate attempts at garnering attention

One minute we putting boots on the ground, the next we are pulling out.

One minute he is demanding for an "exit strategy" and saying we will be there for ever, the next we are pulling out.

Come on Veruca, you can't be that desperate for attention can you?

 

[Jarod]

It is really hard to keep up with all of Veruca's desperate attempts at garnering attention

One minute we putting boots on the ground, the next we are pulling out.

One minute he is demanding for an "exit strategy" and saying we will be there for ever, the next we are pulling out.

Come on Veruca, you can't be that desperate for attention can you?

That all comes from Trump himself, one minuet he is talking about a ground invation the next he is talking about pulling out. I want an exit strategy, but I am afraid we will be there for ever.

You just love to mix words.

 

[Teflon Don]

That all comes from Trump himself, one minuet he is talking about a ground invation the next he is talking about pulling out. I want an exit strategy, but I am afraid we will be there for ever.

You just love to mix words.

Maybe you could just sit back and see what happens instead of kvetching and wringing your hands every second

 

[Crepitus]

You heard it, about two weeks.

So Iran refused to negotiate, so we are cutting and running?

How does that count as a win? Why were we negotiating? So we give them what they want, and leave?

In fact, they took ownership of the Stright of Hormuz in this war…. And they are ok letting them keep it, so they won territory in the war.

They won something.

 

[Damocles]

Jarod is calling the game before it's over. It's only been a couple of weeks, and Trump has been talking about wrapping this up in his four-to-six-week window. We'll see what the actual end state looks like instead of declaring right now that Iran "won" the Strait of Hormuz.

The way Trump is downplaying the Strait right now, saying the U.S. isn't responsible for reopening it and that Europe should "go get your own oil", looks like his "classic" leverage play. Europe (especially France, Spain, and Italy) has been blocking or heavily restricting U.S. and Israeli overflights, basing rights, and logistics for these operations. By signaling "we have access to two oceans, this isn't our problem long-term," he's putting the heat on them. They depend far more on that oil flow than we do, and he's basically telling them to step up or live with the consequences, and by stepping up he could literally mean stop standing in the way and let us work, the same way he keeps hammering NATO as a one-way street where America defends them but they won't help when we ask.

Trump wants it to seem he believes he can hit Iran's nuclear program hard enough to set it back, declare the main objectives met, and exit without owning the endless policing of the Strait. However to me he doesn't appear ready to walk away and just hand permanent control to Iran, though, the tough talk seems designed to force Europe (and others) to get out of the way and let us do the job they rely on the US for.

Personally, I wouldn't have started an operation like this without reliable backup already lined up in advance, more than just Israel, as their power is literally equipment we give them. I don't like him stumbling into the shop, breaking stuff, then turning around and telling Europe they need to help clean up the mess. And I definitely wouldn't support leaving Iran effectively in charge of the Strait of Hormuz as some kind of exit deal. That's too critical a chokepoint for the world's energy to concede. I think he knows that, he's just noting the incentive countries like Spain have to let us fly into the bases we have in their nations.

Whether this approach actually works or just creates more loose ends... time will tell once the dust settles.

 

[christiefan915]

Search Assist

Some Android devices briefly displayed the White House phone number as "Epstein Island" due to a glitch caused by a manipulated Google Maps listing. This issue has since been corrected by Google.
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Incident Overview​

Recently, some Android devices displayed the White House phone number as "Epstein Island" when calling. This unusual label was due to a glitch caused by a manipulated listing in Google Maps.

Details of the Glitch

Cause of the Issue​

• Manipulated Listing: The label "Epstein Island" appeared because of a "fake edit" in Google Maps.
• Affected Devices: Primarily impacted were Android devices, especially Google Pixel phones. iPhone users did not see this label; they only saw the phone number.

Google's Response​

• Correction: Google quickly identified the issue and reversed the unauthorized edit.
• User Action: The account responsible for the manipulation was blocked from making further edits.

Context of the Label​

The term "Epstein Island" refers to Little St. James, a private Caribbean island owned by the late financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was a convicted sex offender. The association with Epstein has raised ongoing questions about his connections with various high-profile individuals, including former President Donald Trump.

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[christiefan915]

If you call the Crazy Trump White House, you'll only get a barrage of BS.

...or a recorded voice answering with "Epstein Island."

white house phone answers Epstein property at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

 

[Into the Night]

You heard it, about two weeks.

So Iran refused to negotiate, so we are cutting and running?

Iran is negotiating.

How does that count as a win?

Yes, Pretender. We won.

Why were we negotiating?

Because Iran has started negotiations.

So we give them what they want, and leave?

The only thing they get out of it is the attacks stop.

In fact, they took ownership of the Stright of Hormuz

Nope. The Strait is open and ships are moving through it normally.

in this war…. And they are ok letting them keep it, so they won territory in the war.

What war? Iran never owned the Strait.

They won something.

Nothing. Their leadership is destroyed. We can fly anywhere we want in their airspace, Most of their navy has been destroyed. Most of their missiles have been destroyed. Their nuclear weapons development has been destroyed again, and Kharg Island is not shipping oil.

 

[Into the Night]

Iran lost a lot of people…. But their government doesn’t care, they gained ownership of the Stright…. To them it’s a huge win!

Iran doesn't own the Strait. The Strait is open and normal ship traffic is moving through it, Pretender (except for ships from Kharg Island, which is currently not shipping oil).

 

[Into the Night]

Let them think that...

Pretender is just making shit up again. The Strait is open to normal marine traffic. There is no toll. The only variance of normal traffic is that ships aren't docking at Kharg Island. Iran is currently not shipping any oil from there.

 

[TOP]

Pretender is just making shit up again. The Strait is open to normal marine traffic. There is no toll. The only variance of normal traffic is that ships aren't docking at Kharg Island. Iran is currently not shipping any oil from there.

Thank you for that information..that makes sense...

 

[Into the Night]

I guess we’re all going to see if it’s true or not. You would love it if Trump followed through with what he said he was going to do today.

Also, you would love it if he did not follow through with what he said he is going to do today.

Also, you would love it if Trump drowned a litter of puppies on live TV.

I'll save that quote.

Ok school marm. That is how voice to text does it. You are a sad person.... I make less typos that The PP.

Its about three miles, well within the electric range of my car, I did have to buy three gallons yesterday. So I've used about two gallons in the last three weeks.

I love when you have no argument and result to what you believe are insults.

Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself, Pretender.

 

[Into the Night]

Are you okay with Iran getting to charge for use of their Strights of Hormuz?

Are you okay with them now owning it?

How do you own something that doesn't exist, Pretender?

 

[Into the Night]

Those are facts or just more blather from the receptionist?

Obviously blather. He is no receptionist. A receptionist has to be good with people, and he's obviously incapable.
I don't even know what a 'Stright of Hormuz' is.

 

[Into the Night]

You think its the military who gets to make that decision?

Yes, Pretender. The military gets to make that decision.

 

[Into the Night]

Im actually so tired of all of us being artificially separated by fascist mind control programs.

Fascism isn't mind control nor Jesus Christ, NoName. Go learn English.

 

[Monad Portal]

Fascism isn't mind control nor Jesus Christ, NoName. Go learn English.

but mind control can be used to inculcate fascist ideas and actions, fascism being the union of state and corporate power.

 

[Monad Portal]

Jarod is calling the game before it's over. It's only been a couple of weeks, and Trump has been talking about wrapping this up in his four-to-six-week window. We'll see what the actual end state looks like instead of declaring right now that Iran "won" the Strait of Hormuz.

The way Trump is downplaying the Strait right now, saying the U.S. isn't responsible for reopening it and that Europe should "go get your own oil", looks like his "classic" leverage play. Europe (especially France, Spain, and Italy) has been blocking or heavily restricting U.S. and Israeli overflights, basing rights, and logistics for these operations. By signaling "we have access to two oceans, this isn't our problem long-term," he's putting the heat on them. They depend far more on that oil flow than we do, and he's basically telling them to step up or live with the consequences, and by stepping up he could literally mean stop standing in the way and let us work, the same way he keeps hammering NATO as a one-way street where America defends them but they won't help when we ask.

Trump wants it to seem he believes he can hit Iran's nuclear program hard enough to set it back, declare the main objectives met, and exit without owning the endless policing of the Strait. However to me he doesn't appear ready to walk away and just hand permanent control to Iran, though, the tough talk seems designed to force Europe (and others) to get out of the way and let us do the job they rely on the US for.

Personally, I wouldn't have started an operation like this without reliable backup already lined up in advance, more than just Israel, as their power is literally equipment we give them. I don't like him stumbling into the shop, breaking stuff, then turning around and telling Europe they need to help clean up the mess. And I definitely wouldn't support leaving Iran effectively in charge of the Strait of Hormuz as some kind of exit deal. That's too critical a chokepoint for the world's energy to concede. I think he knows that, he's just noting the incentive countries like Spain have to let us fly into the bases we have in their nations.

Whether this approach actually works or just creates more loose ends... time will tell once the dust settles.

excellent thinkery.

calm, patience, and waiting are just not as fun!

please drop an f bomb on someone.

 

[Crepitus]

Jarod is calling the game before it's over. It's only been a couple of weeks, and Trump has been talking about wrapping this up in his four-to-six-week window. We'll see what the actual end state looks like instead of declaring right now that Iran "won" the Strait of Hormuz.

The way Trump is downplaying the Strait right now, saying the U.S. isn't responsible for reopening it and that Europe should "go get your own oil", looks like his "classic" leverage play. Europe (especially France, Spain, and Italy) has been blocking or heavily restricting U.S. and Israeli overflights, basing rights, and logistics for these operations. By signaling "we have access to two oceans, this isn't our problem long-term," he's putting the heat on them. They depend far more on that oil flow than we do, and he's basically telling them to step up or live with the consequences, and by stepping up he could literally mean stop standing in the way and let us work, the same way he keeps hammering NATO as a one-way street where America defends them but they won't help when we ask.

Trump wants it to seem he believes he can hit Iran's nuclear program hard enough to set it back, declare the main objectives met, and exit without owning the endless policing of the Strait. However to me he doesn't appear ready to walk away and just hand permanent control to Iran, though, the tough talk seems designed to force Europe (and others) to get out of the way and let us do the job they rely on the US for.

Personally, I wouldn't have started an operation like this without reliable backup already lined up in advance, more than just Israel, as their power is literally equipment we give them. I don't like him stumbling into the shop, breaking stuff, then turning around and telling Europe they need to help clean up the mess. And I definitely wouldn't support leaving Iran effectively in charge of the Strait of Hormuz as some kind of exit deal. That's too critical a chokepoint for the world's energy to concede. I think he knows that, he's just noting the incentive countries like Spain have to let us fly into the bases we have in their nations.

Whether this approach actually works or just creates more loose ends... time will tell once the dust settles.

In what way is @Jarod "caling the game"?

tRump has been all over the place on this.

And don;t give me that "3d chess" bullshit. You're talking about a guy who goes on 5 minute rants about sharpies and columns.

 

[Lionfish]

Search Assist

Some Android devices briefly displayed the White House phone number as "Epstein Island" due to a glitch caused by a manipulated Google Maps listing. This issue has since been corrected by Google.
National Today sundayguardianlive.com

Incident Overview​

Recently, some Android devices displayed the White House phone number as "Epstein Island" when calling. This unusual label was due to a glitch caused by a manipulated listing in Google Maps.

Details of the Glitch

Cause of the Issue​

• Manipulated Listing: The label "Epstein Island" appeared because of a "fake edit" in Google Maps.
• Affected Devices: Primarily impacted were Android devices, especially Google Pixel phones. iPhone users did not see this label; they only saw the phone number.

Google's Response​

• Correction: Google quickly identified the issue and reversed the unauthorized edit.
• User Action: The account responsible for the manipulation was blocked from making further edits.

Context of the Label​

The term "Epstein Island" refers to Little St. James, a private Caribbean island owned by the late financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was a convicted sex offender. The association with Epstein has raised ongoing questions about his connections with various high-profile individuals, including former President Donald Trump.

​

​

This incident highlights the potential for misinformation in digital systems and the importance of maintaining accurate data in public listings.
National Today sundayguardianlive.com

This has to do with what?
That's why you are so easy to dislike.