Jake Starkey
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You can't answer intelligently when backed into the corner.
Trump must be impeached and removed from office for illegal war
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What corner is that? The only point Mr. Tiny Penis has is on top of his head.
Doesn’t he have a time period in which he needs to go to Congress? 45 days come to mind, but I’m not solid on that number. It’s not illegal, yet.
Jake Starkey
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Did Obama bombed 9 countries without congressional approval?
Barack Obama did not “bomb nine countries without congressional approval,” but he did conduct military operations in seven countries without obtaining new, specific authorizations from Congress. The key point is that his administration relied on existing congressional authorizations rather than seeking fresh approval.
What actually happened
Independent tallies show that in 2016, the U.S. dropped roughly 26,000 bombs across seven countries:- Afghanistan
- Iraq
- Syria
- Libya
- Yemen
- Somalia
- Pakistan
No credible source identifies nine countries.
Why this did not involve new congressional approval
Obama did not request a new Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF). Instead, his administration relied on:- The 2001 AUMF (against al‑Qaida and associated forces)
- The 2002 AUMF (Iraq)
- Commander‑in‑chief powers
This is why fact‑checkers describe the claim as partially true:
- True that Obama conducted extensive military operations without new congressional approval.
- False that it involved nine countries or that it was legally “unauthorized” in the narrow sense, because the administration argued the old AUMFs still applied.
Why the number matters
The debate centers on presidential war powers and whether relying on decades‑old AUMFs undermines Congress’s constitutional role. Analysts across the political spectrum argue that both Democratic and Republican presidents have used these authorizations far beyond their original scope.factually.co/fact-checks/politics/obama-bombed-9-countries-without-congressional-approval-claim-a72eea?utm_source=copilot.com
news.meaww.com/fact-check-did-obama-drop-more-than-26-000-bombs-on-7-countries-without-congressional-approval?utm_source=copilot.com
www.snopes.com/news/2025/06/24/obama-26000-bombs-2017/?utm_source=copilot.com
Jake Starkey
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Why the claim persists
The “nine countries” line circulates widely because:- The number 26,000+ bombs in 2016 is striking.
- Many people assume each theater of operation required new congressional approval.
- Some political commentary rounds up or misstates the number of countries.
same sources as above
I’ve never understood how we have the money to go to war, but not the money for Medicare for all, or training and education or now, even research. We chose war. Oligarchs chose war and chaos. Humans get rich off trading munitions.
Thank you for acknowledging my comment and agreeing that Obama dropped over 26,000 bombs on seven countries without going to Congress first.
Oil is the bigger goal. Even though most ME oil goes to Europe and China, it's 25% of the global supply, so controlling it helps control market prices.
Yes, there's money to be made in munitions, especially the high tech stuff the US uses, but that's minor compared to the oil industry. Venezuela was all about oil. Trump is killing the renewable energy market in favor of the traditional energy markets of oil, gas and coal.
Jake Starkey
Verified User
I acknowledged that he had no need to go because he already had previous permission from Congress first.
Yes, oil is a given, always is in that part of the world and war. Energy is going to be expensive this summer if this continues.
Crepitus
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Sadly all we can do right now is add it to the list.
Trump must be impeached and removed from office for illegal war
Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) condemns Donald Trump and the Trump Administration, as well as their enablers in Congress, the media, and elsewhere for launching and supporting a reckless, illegal, unprovoked, and unconstitutional war on Iran over the past 24 hours. Last June, we issued a...thedailyadda.com
Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) condemns Donald Trump and the Trump Administration, as well as their enablers in Congress, the media, and elsewhere for launching and supporting a reckless, illegal, unprovoked, and unconstitutional war on Iran over the past 24 hours.
Last June, we issued a statement denouncing Trump’s bombing of Iran because it posed risks of “spiraling into a regional or even global conflict that could shatter fragile economies and displace millions.” Trump’s unprovoked war on Iran is now confirming our worst fears.
This war is already inflicting significant humanitarian suffering, causing chaotic economic disruption, and risking grave damage to the international order.
The War on Iran has also precipitated a constitutional crisis, attacking the foundational principles of our democratic republic by blatantly violating the separation of powers. It also violates the War Powers Resolution of 1973.
We the People must not fail to meet this crisis. This latest precedent of unchecked abuse of power imperils our democracy, potentially fatally.
The US Constitution vests in Congress the sole authority to declare war (Article I, Section 8). Members of both parties have already acknowledged that Trump’s war against Iran without prior authorization from Congress is unconstitutional.
Senator Jeff Merkley, (D-Oregon), a veteran member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations said this war “shreds our Constitution, which assigns decisions of war to Congress.”
Member of the House Armed Services Committee, Representative Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) called the war “blatantly unconstitutional.” Rep. Khanna co‑authored a bipartisan War Powers Resolution that would restrain Trump from launching such illegal, immoral, and reckless military operations.
Representative Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) described Trump’s attacks as “acts of war unauthorized by Congress.” He is also leading the effort for the War Powers Resolution.
Senators Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sponsored a similar Resolution. Sadly, Republican congressional leaders continue to block Rep. Khanna’s and his colleagues’ efforts to enact a War Powers Resolution in the House.
This unconstitutional, illegal war continues an alarming pattern of the Trump regime’s contempt for the Constitution, Congress, U.S. law, and international norms, as well as basic ethics and morality. Trump has previously ordered illegal attacks against Iran and Venezuela without lawful authorization.
The Trump administration has routinely trampled basic human and civil rights through violent, even deadly operations by Immigration and Customs Enforcement targeting US citizens and lawful residents. We cannot tolerate fascistic policies including fatal shootings, abusive raids, indefinite detentions, and family separations.
Trump, his Department of Justice, and other appointees have escalated their contempt for Congress and the constitutional separation of powers by publicly attacking members of Congress during hearings, by stonewalling and ignoring subpoenas, and by defying oversight powers, and by implementing illegal orders and lawless policies.
Trump’s illegal war on Iran and the rule of law establish an intolerable pattern of egregious abuses of power, directly threatening our constitutional order, our safety, and our way of life. These intertwined crises cry out for an immediate, decisive response by the Congress and the US public.
Therefore, PDA demands that all members of Congress, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents alike, uphold their oath of office to defend our constitutional republic. The Constitution offers one and only one remedy when President a repeatedly breaks the law and arrogantly refuses to abide by the limits on the power clearly laid out in the Constitution. That remedy is impeachment, followed by removal from office.
To effectuate that, PDA calls upon its hundred of thousands of supporters across the country—as well as every American who wants to preserve our constitutional democratic republic—to contact their Senators and Representatives by phone, email, social media, and in‑person visits to demand two things: 1. An immediate end to the War on Iran, and 2. The initiation of impeachment proceedings against Trump and all complicit Trump Administration officials.
Furthermore, we urge organizations and individuals across the country to launch protests and other forms of nonviolent civil disobedience to demand an end to the war. These could include boycotts, or a refusal to purchase any non‑essential goods and services, or some form of intentional non-participation, or any other lawful means until all US military operations against Iran cease and Congress initiates efforts to remove all lawless Trump officials from power.
Trump’s illegal, unconstitutional war on Iran is not only a moral and humanitarian disaster, but also a profound constitutional crisis. The Congress and the American people must oppose, rebuke, and punish Trump and all those complicit in the Trump administration’s escalating attacks on our liberty, our Constitution, and the rule of law. We the People must not fail to meet this crisis. This latest precedent of unchecked abuse of power imperils our democracy, potentially fatally. We can and must overcome these clear and present threats to our lives, liberty, and way of life.
Yep, Trump has a group of dunces and liars across the admin. They are what Trump demands, loyal to him. not the Constitution, morality, or ethics. I said it before, will we survive this buffoon?
Libhater
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Yeah, imagine if he let congress know about his intentions to take out the evil regime before he actually did so. You don't think that two of the obvious anti American-Islamic loving congress members Omar and Rashid would have given Iran a warning of what's to become. F**king liberals are so anti American, so dumb, and so pro illegals and those willing and able to destroy America because of their severe TDS, that all of them should be immediately deported to the commie nation of their likeing.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
That would require literacy on your part...
Jake Starkey
Verified User
Sure do. As do almost all of our clients. In fact most of our clients despise the left more than I do. That takes some doing BTW.....
Doubtful they are anti-Constitutionalists like you.
Into the Night
Verified User
Because you support terrorism.Trump must be impeached and removed from office for illegal war
Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) condemns Donald Trump and the Trump Administration, as well as their enablers in Congress, the media, and elsewhere for launching and supporting a reckless, illegal, unprovoked, and unconstitutional war on Iran over the past 24 hours. Last June, we issued a...
Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) condemns Donald Trump and the Trump Administration, as well as their enablers in Congress, the media, and elsewhere for launching and supporting a reckless, illegal, unprovoked, and unconstitutional war on Iran over the past 24 hours.
What 'war'??
What 'war'??
What 'war'??
DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU DESPISE, SYBIL!
There is no such thing as a 'democratic republic', Sybil.
Neither is occurring, Sybil. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU DESPISE!
What 'crisis', Sybil??
What 'democracy', Sybil?? The United States was never a democracy. There are currently no democracies anywhere on Earth.
They already authorized the action, Sybil.
It does no such thing. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU DESPISE, SYBIL!
Into the Night
Verified User
You are mindlessly chanting again, Sybil.
Trump had all the authority he needed to conduct all of these actions, given by Congress.
Into the Night
Verified User
What 'revolt', Sybil??