Judge blocks parts of Arizona immigration law

[Mott the Hoople]

Your example shows the policemnan to be racist, but not the law itself.

I do not believe this law is racist. I believe its bullshit mainly because of it requiring US citizens to carry their "papers" to prove they are citizens.

It requires that someone prove they are innocent.

I reject that notion to. Not being a citizen should not be a crime. Should it mean that such an individual who does not have citizenship or legal residency status should be removed? Yes it shoud but criminalizing them would be a big mistake.

As for the law. A law doesn't have to explicitly identify and marginalize a racial minority to be racist, as I've demonstrated.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I reject that notion to. Not being a citizen should not be a crime. Should it mean that such an individual who does not have citizenship or legal residency status should be removed? Yes it shoud but criminalizing them would be a big mistake.

this would be constitutionally impossible. how is law enforcement supposed to remove/constrain the liberty and freedom of an individual unless a crime has been committed?

 

[Mott the Hoople]

this would be constitutionally impossible. how is law enforcement supposed to remove/constrain the liberty and freedom of an individual unless a crime has been committed?

I didn't know the US Constitution applied to non-citizens?

 

[El Toro Bravo]

Can everyone assume you are a supporter of FAIR, J.T. Ready and State Sen. Russell Pearce?

 

[Socrtease]

If I am pulled over and only have my New Mexico license I must provide a second form of ID under the Arizona law. This is because NM has decided it is better than everyone that drives has a license and can therefore get insurance. So illegal aliens can get a license and then get insurance. That means I have to use a second form of ID.

 

[El Toro Bravo]

If I am pulled over and only have my New Mexico license I must provide a second form of ID under the Arizona law. This is because NM has decided it is better than everyone that drives has a license and can therefore get insurance. So illegal aliens can get a license and then get insurance. That means I have to use a second form of ID.

That is correct.

It is good that this law was enjoined.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Of course. None of this would be an issue if we just enforced the border AT THE BORDER!

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Sure, we can make the world safe for zionist fascism, but how could we POSSIBLY enforce our own border? <--- bullshit

 

[WinterBorn]

No it does not but neither did many of the poll taxes or literacy tests in the south during the Jim Crow era, do you deny the racism implicit in those laws?

The racism of the poll taxes and literacy tests during Jim Crow days was in the point of the laws. They were expressly written and enforced to stop blacks from voting. The law in AZ was written to try and remove as many illegals as possible. The point of the law itself is not racist per se.

 

[WinterBorn]

I reject that notion to. Not being a citizen should not be a crime. Should it mean that such an individual who does not have citizenship or legal residency status should be removed? Yes it shoud but criminalizing them would be a big mistake.

As for the law. A law doesn't have to explicitly identify and marginalize a racial minority to be racist, as I've demonstrated.

Entering the country illegally is a crime. Whether you want it to be or not, it is a criminal act.

 

[Canceled.LTroll.3]

The racism of the poll taxes and literacy tests during Jim Crow days was in the point of the laws. They were expressly written and enforced to stop blacks from voting. The law in AZ was written to try and remove as many illegals as possible. The point of the law itself is not racist per se.

It isn't?

How is it you are privy to the motivation of the authors and sponsors of SB 1070?

Psychic?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Would it be racist if an eyewitness identified a hispanic as a perpetrator and then police went looking for a hispanic suspect?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I didn't know the US Constitution applied to non-citizens?

the constitution applies to the government, it protects all people. please don't buy in to the misguided notion that the constitution only spells out our rights. It doesn't. all it does is describe the powers and limits of the government.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Of course, Biochipping us all will be the solution.

But not me. I won't be chipped.

My body, my choice.

 

[El Toro Bravo]

Of course not.

 

[WinterBorn]

It isn't?

How is it you are privy to the motivation of the authors and sponsors of SB 1070?

Psychic?

The written reason for the laws discussed above.

No, I am not psychic, nor do I need to be.

 

[WinterBorn]

Of course not.

Of course not? lol

But looking for an hispanic suspect would be racial profiling.

 

[El Toro Bravo]

Of course not? lol

But looking for an hispanic suspect would be racial profiling.

Using a person's ethnicity as "probable cause" without a corresponding eyewitness description of an alleged perpetrator is racial profiling.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Using a person's ethnicity as "probable cause" without a corresponding eyewitness description of an alleged perpetrator is racial profiling.

But they only inquire into status after being picked up for another reason. that's the reality of this situation.

 

[WinterBorn]

Using a person's ethnicity as "probable cause" without a corresponding eyewitness description of an alleged perpetrator is racial profiling.

Oh, so a hispanic citizen, walking across the WalMart parking lot gets questioned about the crime, and he should be ok with it?

So the fact that the illegal immigrants come from a hispanic nation has no bearing at all?