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[Monad Portal]

government ownership of markets?

nonsense phrase.

legion, it's time to abort the ITN sock.

so dumb and gay.

 

[IBDaMann]

Communism is a form of socialism.

No. Communism is the stage that follows socialism. "Teenager" is not a form of "toddler" for the same reason.

Okay. Let's look at CHAZ, since you brought up that image. This was to be a democracy.

You have to be careful. "Democracy" is the Marxist's euphemism for "Marxism" (usually "Socialism"), including CHAZ, which was intended to be a communist sanctuary.

Like most democracies, it quickly dissolved into a brutal oligarchy.

Communism is democracy in the "mob rule" sense. Karl Marx preached that if a CHAZ were created, human nature would fall in line and motivate all to labor for the benefit of others. You and I know that if a CHAZ were created, it will quickly dissolve into a brutal oligarchy.

Marxism is based on denial of human nature.

Once the murders started happening regularly, CHAZ was finally put to rest by the cops.

It should never have been allowed to go that far. CHAZ should never have been allowed to exist. They forced business owners to close shop until CHAZ was shut down.

It starts out small, like the nose of the camel in the tent. Soon, the whole camel is in the tent and you are out in the sandstorm. The moment you find yourself out in the sandstorm. The government owns the business.

Yes, for all intents and purposes, but as you noted, on paper the "owner" is still the "owner." The government declares that there is no sandstorm. Leftists are all about reminding us that socialism "allows" for private ownership. On paper, it does, but in truth, it does not.

Communism of an entire economy has never been successfully implemented.

Correct. Oligarchies, however, have. Wherever you see an oligarchy, you are seeing another State that also did not transition to harmonious communism.

Capitalism exists in every nation, along with it's free market. You can't kill it. It's immortal. Even if the market is driven into a black market, it's still there and still operates through capitalism. No government can truly kill it.

Spot on. That's why economics models based on the supply-demand curve are science, and Marxism is simply religion.

 

[Into the Night]

It's not a fixation when one is merely identifying a Marxist. Knowledge of Marxism is just that, knowledge.


There has never been any mention of any successful implementation of communism in human history outside of Kimba, the White Lion.

Nonetheless, you are spot on regarding socialism. The final sections of the Communist Manifesto are descriptions of the various socialist movements through literature that inspired much of Marx' work, but no communist examples to which to point.


Slavery has existed for as long as humanity has existed.


Yep. We can see that nationalism is a much greater draw than the "proletariat's struggle."


Yep. Marx described the need for government to reign with total control, including over markets, all during the socialism phase. There is no communism until the socialist government steps down and joins the people in their labors. At that point, there is no more government and hence, no government ownership of markets or of anything.

You are still locked in this paradox. Which is is, dude?

 

[Into the Night]

now states are sworn to uphold the "federal" constitution.

you know this.

The 1st amendment does not apply to States. You can't use federalism to say otherwise.

quit acting gay, libertarian censor fucktoid.

Buzzword fallacies. Go learn English.

 

[Monad Portal]

The 1st amendment does not apply to States. You can't use federalism to say otherwise.

yes it does.

 

[Into the Night]

government ownership of markets?

I have already given examples of this.

nonsense phrase.

I have already given examples of this.

legion, it's time to abort the ITN sock.

so dumb and gay.

I am not legion. I am not a sock. I have no socks. Random phrases. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

No. Communism is the stage that follows socialism.

Communism is a form of socialism.

"Teenager" is not a form of "toddler" for the same reason.

False equivalence fallacy.

You have to be careful. "Democracy" is the Marxist's euphemism for "Marxism" (usually "Socialism"), including CHAZ, which was intended to be a communist sanctuary.

A democracy is government by popular vote. This is what CHAZ was envisioned as. It is what the so-called 'autonomous zones' in Minneapolis are. Marx wasn't around when Athens was a democracy (which didnt last long!).

DEMOCRATS do not want a democracy. They want an oligarchy or dictatorship.
Idiots that form things like CHAZ think a democracy works. It never does. It usually quickly dissolves into an oligarchy or dictatorship.

Athens dissolved into a dictatorship. CHAZ dissolved into a brutal oligarchy.

Communism is democracy in the "mob rule" sense.

Communism is not a form of government.

Karl Marx preached that if a CHAZ were created, human nature would fall in line and motivate all to labor for the benefit of others. You and I know that if a CHAZ were created, it will quickly dissolve into a brutal oligarchy.

CHAZ was formed as a democracy.

Marxism is based on denial of human nature.

Because people don't like their stuff stolen.

It should never have been allowed to go that far. CHAZ should never have been allowed to exist. They forced business owners to close shop until CHAZ was shut down.

Because CHAZ stole the space they used, effectively closing the border for people moving through to and from those businesses. It became worse as the oligarchy took hold, since it became dangerous to even be in the area.

Yes, for all intents and purposes, but as you noted, on paper the "owner" is still the "owner."

The owner is the government in communism.

The government declares that there is no sandstorm.

Random phrase.

Leftists are all about reminding us that socialism "allows" for private ownership. On paper, it does, but in truth, it does not.

At first, it does. This is the stage of fascism. It is just a stop on the way to communism.

Correct. Oligarchies, however, have. Wherever you see an oligarchy, you are seeing another State that also did not transition to harmonious communism.

Communism is not harmonious since it is based on theft of wealth.

 

[Into the Night]

yes it does.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The 1st amendment applies only to Congress. It specifically says so.

It does not apply to States, corporations, or individuals. It does not apply to the President. It does not apply to the military. It does not apply to the courts. It does not even apply to the internal operation of Congress itself.

It only prevents Congress from passing certain laws, specifically listed here.

States have in the past established State religions (even though they don't now). Not a violation of the 1st amendment.

 

[Monad Portal]

I have already given examples of this.

I have already given examples of this.

I am not legion. I am not a sock. I have no socks. Random phrases. Go learn English.

no you haven't.

what's and example of a government owning a market?

 

[Monad Portal]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The 1st amendment applies only to Congress. It specifically says so.

It does not apply to States, corporations, or individuals. It does not apply to the President. It does not apply to the military. It does not apply to the courts. It does not even apply to the internal operation of Congress itself.

It only prevents Congress from passing certain laws, specifically listed here.

States have in the past established State religions (even though they don't now). Not a violation of the 1st amendment.

state laws and state actions are found unconstitutionional at the state level.

 

[Into the Night]

no you haven't.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

what's and example of a government owning a market?

The Federal Reserve, which owns the US money market. Canadian healthcare (which is currently failing). Venezuela owning oil production. China concrete, steel, and coal markets.

 

[IBDaMann]

You are still locked in this paradox. Which is is, dude?

I have no idea about what you are talking.

 

[Into the Night]

state laws and state actions are found unconstitutionional at the state level.

So? There are some portions of the Constitution that does apply to States.

 

[Into the Night]

I have no idea about what you are talking.

Denying your paradox don't make it go away.

 

[Monad Portal]

So? There are some portions of the Constitution that does apply to States.

stfu, retard.

 

[IBDaMann]

Communism is a form of socialism.

You are simply mistaken. Teenagers are not a form of toddlers.

A democracy is government by popular vote.

Yep.

This is what CHAZ was envisioned as.

Yep.

DEMOCRATS do not want a democracy.

They most certainly do, and they want to be the oligarchy that steps in and assumes complete control. Tell me I'm wrong.

They want an oligarchy or dictatorship.

... and how are they demonstrating that they are planning on achieving this?

Idiots that form things like CHAZ think a democracy works. It never does. It usually quickly dissolves into an oligarchy or dictatorship.

Bingo! We have a winner. This is the DNC plan.

Athens dissolved into a dictatorship. CHAZ dissolved into a brutal oligarchy.

Yep and Yep.

Communism is not a form of government.

Exactly. You catch on quickly. Communism is anarchy. Communist = Marxist Anarchist

Anarchy = Mob Rule =Democracy

CHAZ was formed as a democracy.

Correct. CHAZ was formed as anarchy.

Because people don't like their stuff stolen.

Correct again.

Because CHAZ stole the space they used, effectively closing the border for people moving through to and from those businesses.

Yep.

It became worse as the oligarchy took hold, since it became dangerous to even be in the area.

Exactly.

The owner is the government in communism.

There is no government in communism. Remember the wise words of @Into the Night, "Communism is not a form of government."

Random phrase.

OK. Don't ever repeat this but "The wick round box dumped Rover delay seed aaaaagh!"

At first, it does. This is the stage of fascism. It is just a stop on the way to communism.

Fascism is not required. Any flavor of socialism works.

The proselytized progression: People -> Democracy -> Socialism -> Communism
The actual progression: People -> Democracy -> Socialism -> execute political opponents -> steal elections -> repeat Socialism ->

Communism is not harmonious since it is based on theft of wealth.

Communism is not harmonious because it doesn't exist.

 

[IBDaMann]

Denying your paradox don't make it go away.

Let me know when you'll tell me what you think it is.

 

[Into the Night]

stfu, retard.

No. You have no command over me or anyone else. You don't even have command of the English language.

 

[LurchAddams]

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[LurchAddams]

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Oh, I'm right here, bud. If it looks like I'm "crying" I'm not. My eyes are watering because you smell like a horse farted into some old hot dog water.