Sen. Kelly sues the Pentagon over attempts to punish him for his warnings about illegal orders

Well, who makes the judgement that an order is illegal? The pilot himself? His superior officer? Who? Answer.

You keep saying I'm poorly educated, show us how you are more educated than me. You wanna try math? Geometric dimensioning? How about tooling angles and why and at what angles chip removal is sufficient? Is UHMW easier to turn than monel? Which wears better?
How about ballistics? How do bullet weights, and why does coefficients matter? Velocities?
See Qpeee, you ain't as smart as you think you are in comparison.
RB, i have said before what Trump meant by "poorly educated" was that he identified a group of people, and whether they have degrees, trades or almost no schooling are STUPID and GULLIBLE. Degrees even on Wall Street does not mean a person is not stupid in life. And that is you. That is EXACTLY why Trump said he 'could shoot someone and not lose one vote'.

You are stuck on stupid. Here is my proof of how stupid you are and how UNABLE you are to read or understand what you read.

If you were sent in to Military Academy and given this very explcit TEST they give recruits you would be one of the sole ones (along with a few other "poorly educated" magats) who would read the below and have no clue what it means and all you would do is leave that class saying to everyone "you must follow all orders, even ones you consider illegal because 'who is to determine'.


Nothing more than the below shows how stuck on stupid you are...


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AI Summary:
This is the specific test taught in U.S. military professional education, captured in the canonical language used in doctrine, with authoritative citations.




Core test (lawful vs unlawful order)​


“Members of the armed forces are bound to obey only lawful orders. An order that is patently illegal—that is, one that a person of ordinary sense and understanding would know to be unlawful—must not be obeyed.”

Citation:


  • Manual for Courts-Martial (MCM), United States (2019 ed.), Part IV, ¶14c(2)(a)(i) (Failure to Obey Order)
  • UCMJ, Article 92

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WHY DO I KEEP FAILING THIS CLASS? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND???
 

Plaque at the U.S. Military Academy (West Point)


Inside the U.S. Military Academy at West Point often referred to in commentary about military duty and the Constitution. According to multiple accounts (including plaques documented online and in commentary about military legal obligations):


Plaque: Should orders and the law ever conflict, our officers must obey the law.”
It speaks to the foundational idea that military officers owe loyalty to the Constitution and the law — not simply to superior orders.

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@RB 60 seeing this plaque exists and is posted at West Point to remind each new member that if they are ever given an order that conflicts with the law they have an obligation to not follow it.

RB reads this and head spins and despite trying he cannot comprehend what it means.

Instead he thinks it is wrong to have this posted and to tell students this and just mumbles over and over 'but who is to decide if an order is illegal' as he pushes a narrative service members must follow those orders regardless of whether they think them legal or illegal.
 
@RB 60 admit how much the above plaque confuses you. Admit if you were I'm that school that each day you would ask the instructors what it meant while not once being able to understand their answer, so you would just keep asking like a babbling idiot.
 
The three above are the trifecta of stupid.
Well I’m sorry guys but he is the master of all stupid has spoken

So it is deemed by the high master of all stupid fucks of all the world that you are almost as stupid as he is


Take console in the fact that he indeed is too stupid to spot true intelligence
 

Plaque at the U.S. Military Academy (West Point)


Inside the U.S. Military Academy at West Point often referred to in commentary about military duty and the Constitution. According to multiple accounts (including plaques documented online and in commentary about military legal obligations):




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@RB 60 seeing this plaque exists and is posted at West Point to remind each new member that if they are ever given an order that conflicts with the law they have an obligation to not follow it.

RB reads this and head spins and despite trying he cannot comprehend what it means.

Instead he thinks it is wrong to have this posted and to tell students this and just mumbles over and over 'but who is to decide if an order is illegal' as he pushes a narrative service members must follow those orders regardless of whether they think them legal or illegal.
Mike drop
 
@RB 60 admit how much the above plaque confuses you. Admit if you were I'm that school that each day you would ask the instructors what it meant while not once being able to understand their answer, so you would just keep asking like a babbling idiot.
Hi @RB 60 .

Are you going to pretend you do not see the above plaque, at the West Point Military Academy?

Are you going to admit you read it and you are completely unable to understand it?

Will you admit you think it is wrong for it to be posted and taught to new soldiers?

Will you then act like you do not understand why you are an avatar for the 'poorly educated'???
 
Hi @RB 60 .

Are you going to pretend you do not see the above plaque, at the West Point Military Academy?

Are you going to admit you read it and you are completely unable to understand it?

Will you admit you think it is wrong for it to be posted and taught to new soldiers?

Will you then act like you do not understand why you are an avatar for the 'poorly educated'???

What law has been broken, pee pee?
 
This is not a real lawsuit. This is Trump using the Justice Department to harass those who have not taken a knee. There is no case. They said You do not have to follow ILLEGAL orders. That is correct. Trump is squandering a few million in tax money to make life miserable for his targets. They will have to pay for lawyers. They may have to show up at court. Their reputations are being besmirched.
This is how a bully acts. Trump has used the courts to avoid paying contractors. He has sued people to make them quit trying to collect what he owes them. He has had the money to use the courts and he has hurt people and saved money. Now he has, for him, free courts. Of course, he would weponize the system.
 
What law has been broken, pee pee?
When you read that plaque above, it is hilarious that you cannot understand what it is saying and think someone has to be able to name a law broken.

You read that plaque, put out for every new military recruit to read and that is reinforced in classes and as you read it you say to the instructor 'but... but... what law has been broken? Why are you teaching us this?'


And that is why you are amongst the most stupid, 'poorly educated' on this forum. You cannot make any sense of what the purpose of that plaque and the lesson is. You are lost and asking us to try and spoon feed so you can understand and i won't do more than i have.

You can keep pushing it is wrong and insubordinate and whatever else you want to call it to teach that and i will just keep :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: at you.
 
No R B 60, no shifting is allowed.

Every service personnel knows they are not obey unlawful orders.
RB truly does not understand.

he is trying but just cannot grasp it.

He honestly thinks that message 'needs a law to be broken' at the time of anyone reading or the class being taught, for those words to have meaning to him.

he is daft beyond help and does not understand what it is saying. And there is no helping him. It is truly beyond him.
 
AI Overview



Military speech has significant limits compared to civilian speech, focusing on maintaining good order, discipline, and mission effectiveness; these restrictions prohibit classified info, contemptuous speech against officials, political advocacy in uniform, and speech undermining the chain of command, with newer rules also targeting extremist activity, even on social media, both on and off duty
. While service members retain First Amendment rights, the Supreme Court recognizes these are curtailed to balance individual expression with the armed forces' unique need for unity and obedience, a principle enforced through the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ
Good thing Kelly didn't do any of those things. He's also not active duty.
 
RB i know this will go over your head as you too dense to understand it but EACH and EVERY service member was instructed not only "can" they refuse an illegal order but they have an 'OBLIGATION' to do so and if they do not, they can and will be held accountable for the action they take.

and service people HAVE been charged and prosecuted for following illegal orders and they have tried the defense of "I was just following my orders" and it DID NOT get accepted as a defense.
Reminds me of "A Few Good Men".
 
LOL, I hope he has to mortgage his home before he's done. TDS turned him into a traitor and a disgrace to the country he once served. Disgusting man. What's really funny? The bitterness and hatred has literally wrinkled his face and bald head, lol. Poor bastard has Trump dancing in his head and I'm loving every minute and every dollar he spends. Maybe a few of you libtards should send him some of your money. It would be like Trump reaching into your pockets, pulling out $100 bills and lighting them on fire like he's doing to Kelly, lmfao.
Oh, hey, shit-stain! I got some news for ya - Kelly's statement was lawful, and even if it wasn't Kelly is protected by our constitution, the 1A -

Now, tobe-weena - the 1A refers to "The First Amendment". Seems like you thought that was really important when you and your goons were passing all shit anti-vax shit around.

Also for elected officials there's this thing called, "The Speech and Debate Clause". It's why Noem can stand up and call the woman her goon murdered, "A Domestic Terrorist" with zero evidence.

It's not just you that and spay your bullshit everywhere tiger.

You have a nude photo of trump above your Speed Racer sleigh bed you jerk off to nightly, don't you?
 
Oh, hey, shit-stain! I got some news for ya - Kelly's statement was lawful, and even if it wasn't Kelly is protected by our constitution, the 1A -

Now, tobe-weena - the 1A refers to "The First Amendment". Seems like you thought that was really important when you and your goons were passing all shit anti-vax shit around.

Also for elected officials there's this thing called, "The Speech and Debate Clause". It's why Noem can stand up and call the woman her goon murdered, "A Domestic Terrorist" with zero evidence.

It's not just you that and spay your bullshit everywhere tiger.

You have a nude photo of trump above your Speed Racer sleigh bed you jerk off to nightly, don't you?
military personnel are under a different standard.

that's why all the spooks on here are apparently so mute and spineless when it comes to truth.
 
A woman who says "I am not mad at you" is a domestic terrorist.

I hope that Trump when he dies in office has not signed a bunch of pardons first.

Noem must go to jail.
 
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