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Mao alone killed over 100 million. Other than that, your trivial objections are noted. You are also dead flat wrong about any of the dictators I listed being on the Right.


All Leftists and just proving my point.
You're a liar and a fucking idiot. Mao did not kill anywhere near 100 million people. You listed several Reich wing characters, such as yourself. I didn't list a single leftist in my list. They were all right wing.

Now, I know that you brainless bitches love to repeat lies over and over again hoping that someone will believe you, but you got the wrong one with me, bitch.
 
Hitler was a Leftist.

He:

Instituted the first smoking ban and anti-tobacco campaign in history
Championed public transit
Made abortion free and universally available
Promoted veganism
Promoted animal rights
Instituted low-cost vacation plans and time off for workers

Among other things.
In other words, the Rightists promote:

Unhealthy habits
Overpopulation
Bad diet
No concern about animals

No wonder Biden is healthy and Hitler was thin and loved animals.
 
You do know that Stalin and Mussolini had trade and other agreements up through the late 30's don't you? This includes the Italians designing ships for the Red Navy for Stalin, for example. The two were tight, and they were both Leftists.
TACO trades with Xi. Now what?
 
Hitler was a Leftist.

He:

Instituted the first smoking ban and anti-tobacco campaign in history
Championed public transit
Made abortion free and universally available
Promoted veganism
Promoted animal rights
Instituted low-cost vacation plans and time off for workers

Among other things.
Hitler was as far right as the political spectrum goes.

His positions included:

Extreme nationalism & racism
Anti-democracy & authoritarianism
Anti-communism
Social hierarchy
Use of violence

Among other things.

There is no reputable historical scholar on the planet who would call Hitler a leftist. You are an ignorant cultist who lies easier than you breathe.
 
Hitler was as far right as the political spectrum goes.

His positions included:

Extreme nationalism & racism

The Left can express, and usually does one or both of those. So?
Anti-democracy & authoritarianism

That's the Left in a nutshell.
Anti-communism

So? Communism is not monolithic. But both Communism and Fascism are totally Socialist and operate as dictatorships.
Social hierarchy

That's true of any organized nation in history.
Use of violence

As if the Left doesn't use violence...
There is no reputable historical scholar on the planet who would call Hitler a leftist. You are an ignorant cultist who lies easier than you breathe.
Irrelevant appeal to authority.

Three major things define the Left:

1. Government is omnipresent in people's lives and runs the nation both politically and economically
2. The state is of more importance than the individual. Individual rights are suppressed in favor of group and state rights.
3. The economy is heavily regulated and controlled by government.
 
Hitler was a Leftist.

He:

Instituted the first smoking ban and anti-tobacco campaign in history
Championed public transit
Made abortion free and universally available
Promoted veganism
Promoted animal rights
Instituted low-cost vacation plans and time off for workers

Among other things.
We can play the same thing and say Maga is leftist then too via Trumps interventionist, anti free trade, government ownership of corporations, the way he demands to steer mergers and acquisition and not allow the 'free market' to do it, etc, etc..

Interventionist Policies:
  • Government Ownership Stakes: Converting federal grants (like those from the CHIPS Act) into direct equity in companies, making the government a shareholder, as seen with Intel.
  • "Golden Shares": Demanding special shares in companies (like U.S. Steel) that grant the government managerial power, intervening in decisions like plant closures.
  • Industrial Policy: Using government power to steer investment and control key sectors, similar to Chinese models,
Why It's Called "Socialist" (or "State Capitalist"):
  • Interfering with Free Markets: this approach undermines the profit-and-loss system by directing capital and interfering with private company decisions.
  • Increased State Control: The government gains unprecedented control over private economic decisions, a hallmark of socialist-leaning systems,
  • Blurring Lines: Even some who support government intervention for national interests, like Bernie Sanders, have noted the similarities, though Trump rejects the label.
Trump's Methods:
  • the methods used—direct state involvement in corporate ownership and management—are seen by many as departures from traditional conservative principles, resembling state capitalism or economic nationalism, more aligned with far left ideology than the standard free markets, right.
 
We can play the same thing and say Maga is leftist then too via Trumps interventionist, anti free trade, government ownership of corporations, the way he demands to steer mergers and acquisition and not allow the 'free market' to do it, etc, etc..

Interventionist Policies:
  • Government Ownership Stakes: Converting federal grants (like those from the CHIPS Act) into direct equity in companies, making the government a shareholder, as seen with Intel.
  • "Golden Shares": Demanding special shares in companies (like U.S. Steel) that grant the government managerial power, intervening in decisions like plant closures.
  • Industrial Policy: Using government power to steer investment and control key sectors, similar to Chinese models,
Why It's Called "Socialist" (or "State Capitalist"):
  • Interfering with Free Markets: this approach undermines the profit-and-loss system by directing capital and interfering with private company decisions.
  • Increased State Control: The government gains unprecedented control over private economic decisions, a hallmark of socialist-leaning systems,
  • Blurring Lines: Even some who support government intervention for national interests, like Bernie Sanders, have noted the similarities, though Trump rejects the label.
Trump's Methods:
  • the methods used—direct state involvement in corporate ownership and management—are seen by many as departures from traditional conservative principles, resembling state capitalism or economic nationalism, more aligned with far left ideology than the standard free markets, right.
Yes, the US government is increasingly Leftist.
 
Trump and Maga are the ones shifting the country to the extreme left in a big way based on above.
Bullshit.

The Democrats are.

Universal government run healthcare tops the list
Pushing for public transit over private ownership of vehicles
Increasing statist capitalism and socialism in the economy
Government provided education
Government provided daycare
Government subsidized or provided residences
Federalization of programs in general

So, how are "Trump and Maga" pushing the country to the extreme left?
 
The Left can express, and usually does one or both of those. So?


That's the Left in a nutshell.


So? Communism is not monolithic. But both Communism and Fascism are totally Socialist and operate as dictatorships.


That's true of any organized nation in history.


As if the Left doesn't use violence...

Irrelevant appeal to authority.

Three major things define the Left:

1. Government is omnipresent in people's lives and runs the nation both politically and economically
2. The state is of more importance than the individual. Individual rights are suppressed in favor of group and state rights.
3. The economy is heavily regulated and controlled by government.
Only an idiot calls subject matter experts "irrelevant". You clearly have never taken a political science course in your entire life. Why are you on this board?

Nationalism is part of right wing politics. Full stop.

Racism is not exclusively right wing, but in modern Western politics, explicit racism, white supremacy, and nativism are predominantly associated with far right and right wing extremist ideologies. That is a fact.

Anti-democratic tendencies are found across the political spectrum, but in contemporary American politics, they are strongly associated with the right, manifesting as challenges to democratic norms, right wing authoritarianism, prioritizing strong leadership over institutions, and promoting systems that favor conservative power. Left wing anti-democratic views do not focus on strongman rule. Read a book.

Authoritarianism is a political system focused on strong central power and limited individual freedoms. Those things are associated with the right wing, especially in Western contexts, due to links with traditionalism, nationalism, and order.

Socialism and communism are not the same things. Socialism aims for social ownership of production within democratic systems. Communism seeks a stateless, classless society through revolution, resulting in authoritarian state control.

Fascism and socialism are fundamentally different. Socialism seeks collective ownership to replace capitalism. Fascism uses state power to control private enterprise for nationalistic goals. Fascism is extremely far right, again characterized by nationalism, authoritarian rule, militarism, suppression of opposition, and prioritizing the nation over the individual. That is the opposite of liberalism, democracy, and communism.

A belief in social hierarchy is a core characteristic of the political right. They believe that hierarchies are natural, inevitable, and desirable. The left emphasizes equality.

I'll let go violence because neither end of the political spectrum has a monopoly on its use.

Literally everything you said (except my exclusion for violence) is wrong. You don't understand politics. You don't understand history. You are a mindless regurgitator of cultist talking points that you try to dress up with words that evidence a total misunderstanding of what you're discussing.
 
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Bullshit.

The Democrats are.

Universal government run healthcare tops the list
Pushing for public transit over private ownership of vehicles
Increasing statist capitalism and socialism in the economy
Government provided education
Government provided daycare
Government subsidized or provided residences
Federalization of programs in general

So, how are "Trump and Maga" pushing the country to the extreme left?

- Universal healthcare not achieved.
- 'pushing for' anything does not equal achieved
- increasing statist capitalism and socialism in economy are meaningless words you spew that you cannot define or give examples of any thing ACHIEVED
- Education, daycare, residency subsidies have been introduced by BOTH parties and there is no clear delineation to one over the other
- federalization of programs in general is a meaningless statement which i counter and say GOP has done more since we are just saying things.


Now putting aside you usual 'words spewed meaning nothing' what i say about Trump and Magats above is ABSOTUTELY TRUE and verifiable.

this is the biggest push, by Trump, supported by Magats to push giant government into every aspect of life. To change the US from a more Capitalist society to one that is closer to Oligarchy or Crony Capitalism.

Trump and magats think big govt should control what Universities teach, what Law firms can do and who they can represent, what the media can say and report on, all while shutting down any type of citizen based check and balance control and shutting down free speech.

Again what i say is verifiable compared to your word salad NONE OF WHICH has any meaning.
 
Only an idiot calls subject matter experts "irrelevant". You clearly have never taken a political science course in your entire life. Why are you on this board?

Nationalism is part of right wing politics. Full stop.

Racism is not exclusively right wing, but in modern Western politics, explicit racism, white supremacy, and nativism are predominantly associated with far right and right wing extremist ideologies. That is a fact.

Anti-democratic tendencies are found across the political spectrum, but in contemporary American politics, they are strongly associated with the right, manifesting as challenges to democratic norms, right wing authoritarianism, prioritizing strong leadership over institutions, and promoting systems that favor conservative power. Left wing anti-democratic views do not focus on strongman rule. Read a book.

Authoritarianism is a political system focused on strong central power and limited individual freedoms. Those things are associated with the right wing, especially in Western contexts, due to links with traditionalism, nationalism, and order.

Socialism and communism are not the same things. Socialism aims for social ownership of production within democratic systems. Communism seeks a stateless, classless society through revolution, resulting in authoritarian state control.

Fascism and socialism are fundamentally different. Socialism seeks collective ownership to replace capitalism. Fascism uses state power to control private enterprise for nationalistic goals. Fascism is extremely far right, again characterized by nationalism, authoritarian rule, militarism, suppression of opposition, and prioritizing the nation over the individual. That is the opposite of liberalism, democracy, and communism.

A belief in social hierarchy is a core characteristic of the political right. They believe that hierarchies are natural, inevitable, and desirable. The left emphasizes equality.

I'll let go violence because neither end of the political spectrum has a monopoly on its use.

Literally everything you said (except my exclusion for violence) is wrong. You don't understand politics. You don't understand history. You are a mindless regurgitator of cultist talking points that you try to dress up with words that evidence a total misunderstanding of what you're discussing.
When Terry is over whelmed with a topic he throws out word salad that is almost always wrong, selectively quotes and reality is near the exact opposite of what he is saying.
 
When Terry is over whelmed with a topic he throws out word salad that is almost always wrong, selectively quotes and reality is near the exact opposite of what he is saying.
He writes well, but he's isn't smart. He routinely demonstrates his absolute ignorance of most subjects under discussion.
 
In other words, the Rightists promote:

Unhealthy habits
Overpopulation
Bad diet
No concern about animals

No wonder Biden is healthy and Hitler was thin and loved animals.
Metastatic prostate cancer
Chronic atrial fibrillation
Two brain surgeries
Dementia
One CVA
History of skin cancer

Healthy as a horse... a very sick horse.
 
Only an idiot calls subject matter experts "irrelevant". You clearly have never taken a political science course in your entire life. Why are you on this board?

Only an idiot takes someone claiming expertise at their word. I'm glad I've never taken a political science course given that's one of the easiest, if not the easiest, liberal arts degrees in existence. It's the one many law students take to get a good GPA for Liar... Law school.

Why are you on this board, to give people the finger? That seems to be about all you do.
Nationalism is part of right wing politics. Full stop.

No, it's not. There is no empirical or quantifiable data to make that statement off of. It's basically a SWAGPOOYA and nothing more.
Racism is not exclusively right wing, but in modern Western politics, explicit racism, white supremacy, and nativism are predominantly associated with far right and right wing extremist ideologies. That is a fact.

If anything, the Left is far more racist than the Right. The Left usually codifies racism into law and then ruthlessly applies it. CRT, affirmative action, disparate impact theory... The Left creates all sorts of racist shit.
Anti-democratic tendencies are found across the political spectrum, but in contemporary American politics, they are strongly associated with the right, manifesting as challenges to democratic norms, right wing authoritarianism, prioritizing strong leadership over institutions, and promoting systems that favor conservative power. Left wing anti-democratic views do not focus on strongman rule. Read a book.

Other way around. The Democrats have a long history of subverting democratic elections in the US. Tammany Hall, the Daley machine in Chicago, Huey Long, to name a few. Those are all your "strongman rule" in action. Maduro in Venezuela subverted elections with massive fraud. The Democrats recently tried to increase their ability to subvert elections with legislation like the For the Voter's and John Lewis Voter's acts.

The Left seeks to obtain, then consolidate power followed by instituting laws that prevent them from being turned out of office.
Authoritarianism is a political system focused on strong central power and limited individual freedoms. Those things are associated with the right wing, especially in Western contexts, due to links with traditionalism, nationalism, and order.

Authoritarianism is central to Leftist politics. Without significant control and power they cannot implement socialist programs. They can't centralize power in their hands. They can't take over the economy. The Right doesn't want a dictatorship, the Left does.
Socialism and communism are not the same things. Socialism aims for social ownership of production within democratic systems. Communism seeks a stateless, classless society through revolution, resulting in authoritarian state control.

They are. Communism is just a variant of Socialism. It's one of many types. What you describe as Communism in your last sentence IS a form of Socialism. Socialism, in any form, seeks to place control of the economy to one degree or another in the hands of the government and expects the population to act altruistically. Socialism cannot work if the population is not altruistic either by choice or force. Since altruism is counterintuitive to human nature, Socialism must be forced on the population and the only way to do that is institute an authoritarian, central, dictatorship over society.
Fascism and socialism are fundamentally different. Socialism seeks collective ownership to replace capitalism. Fascism uses state power to control private enterprise for nationalistic goals. Fascism is extremely far right, again characterized by nationalism, authoritarian rule, militarism, suppression of opposition, and prioritizing the nation over the individual. That is the opposite of liberalism, democracy, and communism.

Fascism is not an economic system. Fascism uses Socialism just like Communism does as its economic system. That Fascism chooses to use statist capitalism--like China does today, and yes China is now Fascist rather than Communist even if they say otherwise--as opposed to some other form of Socialism doesn't change that it's using Socialism.
A belief in social hierarchy is a core characteristic of the political right. They believe that hierarchies are natural, inevitable, and desirable. The left emphasizes equality.

This is untrue. The difference between the Right and Left here is the Right seeks equality in liberty and equality of opportunity while the Left seeks equality through repression and servitude.

That is, the Right sees this as you are born equal and have the opportunity and liberty to succeed or fail on your own merits. Outcomes are neither guaranteed nor will they be equal. This means you can soar to new heights or end up penniless, but you get to choose.

On the Left, equality is forced by government through laws that restrain those that can do more and achieve more while giving those that do little or achieve nothing an equal share. Outcomes are guaranteed and equal. This means the best and brightest are held down and society devolves to the least common denominator.
I'll let go violence because neither end of the political spectrum has a monopoly on its use.

That I can agree to.
Literally everything you said (except my exclusion for violence) is wrong. You don't understand politics. You don't understand history. You are a mindless regurgitator of cultist talking points that you try to dress up with words that evidence a total misunderstanding of what you're discussing.

Literally everything you said is wrong. You don't understand politics in any sort of organized fashion using any sort of empirical, quantitative, data. You simply parrot what other mindless academics and know-nothings have said.
 
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- Universal healthcare not achieved.
- 'pushing for' anything does not equal achieved
- increasing statist capitalism and socialism in economy are meaningless words you spew that you cannot define or give examples of any thing ACHIEVED
- Education, daycare, residency subsidies have been introduced by BOTH parties and there is no clear delineation to one over the other
- federalization of programs in general is a meaningless statement which i counter and say GOP has done more since we are just saying things.

Not for want of trying. That's the point.
 
Not for want of trying. That's the point.
No the point is not YOUR VIEW of what you say they are trying to do but not accomplishing when we have ACTUAL and FACTUAL things we can point to that Trump is doing right now.


If i play your game i can create a list of MY VIEW of what Trump is trying to do in the future and this discussion becomes pointless as we are just discussing each other fantasy lists.

Trump is actively attacking free markets and free trade to impose a BIG GOV'T version more similar to Russia or Cuba.

Trump is actively attacking Universities and Law firms and Media companies, and 1st amendment freedoms in the same way Putin and most of the authoritarian leaders (left or right) from S.America and eastern Europe have in the past.

Trump is saying he will have a say in how these companies sell, merge and can operate in the future.

These are not your fantasy list and are real and can be cited.
 
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