Sen. Kelly sues the Pentagon over attempts to punish him for his warnings about illegal orders

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Military speech has significant limits compared to civilian speech, focusing on maintaining good order, discipline, and mission effectiveness; these restrictions prohibit classified info, contemptuous speech against officials, political advocacy in uniform, and speech undermining the chain of command, with newer rules also targeting extremist activity, even on social media, both on and off duty
. While service members retain First Amendment rights, the Supreme Court recognizes these are curtailed to balance individual expression with the armed forces' unique need for unity and obedience, a principle enforced through the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ
 
Hawkeye10 said:
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Military speech has significant limits compared to civilian speech, focusing on maintaining good order, discipline, and mission effectiveness; these restrictions prohibit classified info, contemptuous speech against officials, political advocacy in uniform, and speech undermining the chain of command, with newer rules also targeting extremist activity, even on social media, both on and off duty
. While service members retain First Amendment rights, the Supreme Court recognizes these are curtailed to balance individual expression with the armed forces' unique need for unity and obedience, a principle enforced through the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ
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Correct. Reminding all service members to comply with the UCMJ is a responsible action by leadership.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Correct. Reminding all service members to comply with the UCMJ is a responsible action by leadership.
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He is making the claim to have constitutional free speech rights.....military members have much limited free speech rights, and because the UCMJ has been generally ruled to carry over into retirement he does not have the rights he claims to have.

However this dark age is marked by the collapse of the justice system.....Kelly might well find a judge to say otherwise.

Talk on this here:

 
Hawkeye10 said:
He is making the claim to have constitutional free speech rights.....military members have much limited free speech rights, and because the UCMJ has been generally ruled to carry over into retirement he does not have the rights he claims to have.

However this dark age is marked by the collapse of the justice system.....Kelly might well find a judge to say otherwise.

Talk on this here:

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Who? Kelley in his lawsuit? He does have free speech rights. Why shouldn't he?
 
What kind of grown man sits on an obscure political board all day and night, making dumb ass memes, getting excited about all things gay and pedo, and lying about being in the service? Let me save your fellow dumb fuck democrats from having to think too hard about that. An obviously mentally unstable one. On the scale of humanity, you are lower than whale shit Dutch.
 
Yakuda said:
The entire purpose of that endeavor was to sow doubt and mistrust in the command structure of the military. It's despicable for anyone to do it but for a retired service member to do it is particularly disgusting. Actions have consequences. I'm sick and tired of people doing whatever they fuck they please and then whine about the consequences. He should have thought before he acted just like that dyke interfering with ICE
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The current command structure, possibly, and understandable, but I think Hegseth does a pretty good job of that on his own, that is what happens when you hire an unqualified TV talking head to run the biggest military in the world
 
archives said:
The current command structure, possibly, and understandable, but I think Hegseth does a pretty good job of that on his own, that is what happens when you hire an unqualified TV talking head to run the biggest military in the world
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More incessant fucking whining. Nothing changes the fact that this leftist asshole is a seditious twat. I hope they nail his ass to the wall.
 
Yakuda said:
More incessant fucking whining. Nothing changes the fact that this leftist asshole is a seditious twat. I hope they nail his ass to the wall.
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Isn’t and they won’t, as we have seen already, every time Trump initiates one of his political vendettas he loses, his lemming attorneys stink
 
"What kind of grown man sits on an obscure political board all day and night, making dumb ass memes, getting excited about all things gay and pedo, and lying about being in the service? Let me save your fellow dumb fuck democrats from having to think too hard about that. An obviously mentally unstable one. On the scale of humanity, you are lower than whale shit Dutch."

This is what is causing the Dutch meltdown. Still waiting on your answer wimpy.
 
archives said:
I believe “justice” in your understanding means retribution, like MAGA, you can’t just get over others criticizing or attacking the messiah’s narcissism
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No I mean justice in punishing a seditious piece of shit like kelly. And the last thing anyone needs is preaching on justice from a member of the "get trump" party. It's almost as if you deformed monkeys don't even listen to yourselves.
 
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