Is it our job to fight Iran?

[Hawkeye10]

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It is now much clearer what Russia has been delivering to Iran with its military transporters in the last few weeks. Starlink jamming systems. Russian intelligence has broken through the Mossad and CIA plan to initiate massive and violent protests in Iran, stunning the Iranian government, which would be followed by a massive US-Israeli military intervention and bombing. The Iranian government completely blocked the internet and communication and with the help of these systems managed to block Starlink, whose receivers, according to Sky News, had been smuggled inside Iran for years. In this way, Mossad lost communication with the base in Israel and the organization began to fall apart. Mossad agents began to be hunted down one by one because with the internet completely turned off, Starlink receivers light up like a Christmas tree.I have already written that Starlink is the most powerful weapon in the hands of the USA and Israel. Through this internet, communication can be easily organized and drones can be controlled anywhere in the world from a basement in Washington. All Ukrainian communication takes place via Starlink.

 

[serendipity]

Why is it our business to bomb them if they use their military against their people?

You're mate O'Biden wouldn't have agreed with you in the past.

That is not what they say......they say "You do your thing and we will do our thing....and we will treat each other respect".

They at least in their branding are the opposite of the failing Imperial Empire.

It you believe that then you truly are insane!!

no, so is Australia. So is Saudi Arabia.

 

[Tobytone]

That's a high quality contribution.

You're too stupid to realize what I did, lol.

 

[Monad Portal]

Iran is near the top of US sanctioned countries, but you don't care about that human rights violation.

The CIA and mossad are funding and implementing a violent overthrow of Iran's leadership, but that's somehow OK with you.

Iran has one of the largest oil and gas reserves in the world that israel wants control of and are willing to use nukes to get it. Are nukes a human rights violation?

I think the populist revolution is real and not WHOLLY spook created, (only partially).

good enough.

 

[AProudLefty]

You're too stupid to realize what I did, lol.

You edited my post, thinking it was clever.

 

[Tobytone]

You edited my post, thinking it was clever.

Very good, and it was accurate too.

 

[AProudLefty]

Very good, and it was accurate too.

You really think you contribute?

 

[IBDaMann]

Thugs R Us is not a pathway to success long term.

Exactly. We destroy their narco-terrorist boats in international waters and we incarcerate the kingpins.

Something you were expected to learn sometime around the age of four.

 

[IBDaMann]

I dont know what the truth is in this matter

I see that.

, but several people on my well curated gibberish network I have heard babble ...:

FTFY

1) The Brits adored their sabotage/terrorism missions of WW2
2) They generally made zero difference
3) They run many of the Empires terrorism projects today
4) Almost all of the current global problems trace back to the Brits.

I'm glad you shared that, but what could you possibly do for an encore? I'd certainly hate to follow your act.

 

[IBDaMann]

You really think you contribute?

You really think you contribute?

 

[AProudLefty]

You really think you contribute?

Parroting is not contributing.

 

[Jarod]

You're mate O'Biden wouldn't have agreed with you in the past.

It you believe that then you truly are insane!!

Ok, I do not mind disagreeing with Obama or Biden.

 

[Jarod]

THis is fascism. I mean, the 'police' ICE are murdering people.

If the Trumppers and @Damocles believe the facts they claim... that she was trying to run the guy over, it would not be murder. The video shows the facts, and some truly believe what they claim to believe, video or not.

 

[Damocles]

If the Trumppers and @Damocles believe the facts they claim... that she was trying to run the guy over, it would not be murder. The video shows the facts, and some truly believe what they claim to believe, video or not.

Actually. What I say is that the Agent believed she was trying to run him and others over. The measure is subjective. He does not have the ability to watch it happen in a frame by frame he has less than a second to make a determination based on the information before him. When the car started moving towards him, then struck him, reasonable folks will be able to understand that he could think his life is in danger... Hence my prediction. This will be found to be justified.

 

[Jarod]

Actually. What I say is that the Agent believed she was trying to run him and others over. The measure is subjective. He does not have the ability to watch it happen in a frame by frame he has less than a second to make a determination based on the information before him.

Ok, I understand you truly believe that.

Do you believe the agent must reasonably believe it based on the facts, meaning not not just in his mind?


What if the agent intentionally put himself in the path of a vehicle, can he then use deadly force?

 

[Damocles]

Ok, I understand you truly believe that.

Do you believe the agent must reasonably believe it based on the facts, meaning not not just in his mind?


What if the agent intentionally put himself in the path of a vehicle, can he then use deadly force?

It would depend on the training. Do you think he was violating training when he was taking video evidence? When he watched her shift the car from park do you think he was not doing something he was trained to do?

 

[serendipity]

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It is now much clearer what Russia has been delivering to Iran with its military transporters in the last few weeks. Starlink jamming systems. Russian intelligence has broken through the Mossad and CIA plan to initiate massive and violent protests in Iran, stunning the Iranian government, which would be followed by a massive US-Israeli military intervention and bombing. The Iranian government completely blocked the internet and communication and with the help of these systems managed to block Starlink, whose receivers, according to Sky News, had been smuggled inside Iran for years. In this way, Mossad lost communication with the base in Israel and the organization began to fall apart. Mossad agents began to be hunted down one by one because with the internet completely turned off, Starlink receivers light up like a Christmas tree.I have already written that Starlink is the most powerful weapon in the hands of the USA and Israel. Through this internet, communication can be easily organized and drones can be controlled anywhere in the world from a basement in Washington. All Ukrainian communication takes place via Starlink.

 

[Jarod]

It would depend on the training. Do you think he was violating training when he was taking video evidence? When he watched her shift the car from park do you think he was not doing something he was trained to do?

I do not think the law is affected by training, do I suspect he was poorly trained to put himself in danger to allow the killing, yes. Do I think that is acceptable, no. Does his training affect if it is illegal or not, NO.

If one can effectuate an arrest (especially for a non-violent crime) without causing a life or death situation, it ABSOLUTELY should be done that way.

If an officer intentionally causes the life or death situation, he should not be allowed to use deadly force to then resolve the situation.

 

[Damocles]

I do not think the law is affected by training, I suspect he was poorly trained to put himself in danger to allow the killing, yes. Do I think that is acceptable, no. Does his training affect if it is illegal or not, NO.

If one can effectuate an arrest (especially for a non-violent crime) without causing a life or death situation, it ABSOLUTELY should be done that way.

If an officer intentionally causes the life or death situation, he should not be allowed to use deadly force to then resolve the situation.

I think the ruling states you must take the entire event, and then apply the subjective measure. He walked over because a lawful order was issued, he was doing what he was supposed to do. She then shifted her car, turned her wheels and drove the car at him. So much at him it actually struck him.

This idea that she was "driving away from him" is clearly an absurd claim. Her vehicle struck him.

I will once again predict that this will be found to be justified. Even if you really don't want it to be because you get to imagine what they were thinking based on hindsight.

 

[Jarod]

I think the ruling states you must take the entire event, and then apply the subjective measure. He walked over because a lawful order was issued, he was doing what he was supposed to do. She then shifted her car, turned her wheels and drove the car at him. So much at him it actually struck him.

This idea that she was "driving away from him" is clearly an absurd claim. Her vehicle struck him.

I will once again predict that this will be found to be justified. Even if you really don't want it to be because you get to imagine what they were thinking based on hindsight.

Do you believe ones training affects the legality of an action?

Do you believe that If one can effectuate an arrest (especially for a non-violent crime) without causing a life or death situation, it ABSOLUTELY should be done that way.

Do you believe If an officer intentionally causes the life or death situation, he should not be allowed to use deadly force to then resolve the situation.


I understand the facts can be bent to justify either side, so lets go with the above hypothetical theory based questions.




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