Epstein emails released that strongly suggest trump knew about his activities....
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How come this alleged "avalanche" didn't make itself public before, Desh?
To determine if this "proves" anything, we need to establish what "proof" means.
In legal or factual terms, proof requires evidence that is verified, uncontested, and sufficient to establish a conclusion beyond reasonable doubt (in a criminal context) or by a preponderance of evidence (in civil matters).
1. Nature of the allegations
Conclusion: Does this "prove" anything? Not in a definitive sense:
In legal or factual terms, proof requires evidence that is verified, uncontested, and sufficient to establish a conclusion beyond reasonable doubt (in a criminal context) or by a preponderance of evidence (in civil matters).
1. Nature of the allegations
- Source: The emails reportedly came from Epstein’s estate, released by House Democrats. This suggests they are part of a larger trove (23,000 documents mentioned in NPR’s coverage) being reviewed by the Oversight Committee.
- Content: The emails contain Epstein’s own words, allegedly written to Ghislaine Maxwell (his convicted co-conspirator) and Michael Wolff (a journalist and author). For example, the 2011 email to Maxwell states a victim spent hours with Trump, and a 2019 email to Wolff claims Trump "knew about the girls" and asked Maxwell to stop.
- Verification: The New York Times and other outlets (e.g., NPR, BBC) report on these emails, but none confirm independently verifying their authenticity. The Oversight Committee and media rely on the estate’s provision, which introduces a potential for bias or manipulation since the documents are curated by a political group (Democrats) with an interest in scrutinizing Trump.
- Timing: Since the alleged emails are timestamped, why are they just being "discovered" by a hostile House committee?
- Allegation vs. Evidence: Epstein’s supposed statements are allegations, not evidence of President Trump’s actions. They are hearsay. Hearsay can be considered in some investigations but is inadmissible in court without substantiation.
- Context: President Trump and Epstein were known to be acquaintances in the 1990s and early 2000s. President Trump has acknowledged knowing Epstein, but they fell out by 2004. Proximity (e.g., Epstein’s Manhattan mansion being a 10-minute walk from Trump Tower) and social overlap (e.g., Trump inviting Epstein to events) are documented, but proximity doesn’t prove complicity.
- Charges: Despite extensive investigations into Epstein’s network, President Trump has never been charged or named as a suspect. The Justice Department’s July 2025 memo (per The Guardian) concluded no evidence supported charges against uncharged third parties, though this has been contested by Democrats.
- Credibility: As a convicted sex offender who died by suicide in 2019, any of Epstein’s alleged statements carry inherent bias. He might have exaggerated or fabricated claims to leverage influence, especially given his communications with Wolff about manipulating Trump’s public image.
- Context: The curiously-timed press release by House Democrats, a group opposing President Trump, raises questions of political motivation. Rep. Robert Garcia’s statement about uncovering a "cover-up" suggests this is part of a broader narrative.
- Corroboration: No victim has publicly confirmed spending hours with Trump at Epstein’s home in the context of abuse. The redacted name in the 2011 email (per CNN’s reporting) leaves the victim’s identity and testimony unverified.
Conclusion: Does this "prove" anything? Not in a definitive sense:
- Without independent verification, victim testimony, or legal action, it remains an allegation. The evidence is circumstantial at best and reliant on a dead man's (Epstein) untested claims, filtered through a politically charged release.
Nonads is a sad and lonely little man
evince
Truthmatters
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Your fucks shut down the government to prevent its release
The stuff being released so far comes from all kinds of sources
The victims lawyers have lots and lots of discovery documents
The victims know stuff
Trump would have to kill lots of people to really keep the lid on this
You are fucked
The emails can be found here in a shared link
www.nytimes.com
One thing made clear in the emails is Trump had been on Epstein's plane and to Epstein's house.
Read 3 Jeffrey Epstein Emails That Mention Trump
House Democrats on Wednesday released emails in which Jeffrey Epstein sent messages to his longtime confidante Ghislaine Maxwell and the author Michael Wolff suggesting that Donald J. Trump knew more about the convicted sex offender’s abuse than he had acknowledged. Our reporters are reviewing...
One thing made clear in the emails is Trump had been on Epstein's plane and to Epstein's house.
People with IQs over 80 don't need to ask that question.
evince
Truthmatters
And that he had not sung yet?The emails can be found here in a shared link
Read 3 Jeffrey Epstein Emails That Mention Trump
House Democrats on Wednesday released emails in which Jeffrey Epstein sent messages to his longtime confidante Ghislaine Maxwell and the author Michael Wolff suggesting that Donald J. Trump knew more about the convicted sex offender’s abuse than he had acknowledged. Our reporters are reviewing...
One thing made clear in the emails is Trump had been on Epstein's plane and to Epstein's house.
Sung about what?
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
let me guess? the walls are finally closing in?
evince
Truthmatters
No trump is building walls remember
It’s the laws and justice system that are closing in on Trump
This is it...
So what is your prediction?