Billionaire Peter Thiel warns if you ‘proletarianize the young people,’ don’t be surprised they end up communist

cawacko said:
No disagreement here about the growing populism we see on both the right and left that you call out.

Since this thread was largely about housing, and it's a space I'm familiar with, it's what I've been speaking to. What's interesting about housing is political labels often get dropped quickly. Someone wants to build in a neighborhood, people unite like they are multi-generational families in opposition. It's no longer R vs. D, it's like people are a gang uniting to protect themselves.

We've had decades of that which has led us to where buying a home, the "American Dream", is out of reach for so many. That alone isn't what's causing this populist movement, but it's certainly playing a role in it.
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is there something innately wrong with populism?

if so, what is that thing?
 
Freddy Figbottom said:
oligarchs control everything and it makes markets virtually not matter in many respects.

its fascism not free trade.

:truestory:
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So you’re the guy who stands in front of a new devlooment in my neighborhood with the “this is fascism, not free trade” sign.

My bad man for never saying hello. I’ll buy you a drink next time.
 
cawacko said:
So you’re the guy who stands in front of a new devlooment in my neighborhood with the “this is fascism, not free trade” sign.

My bad man for never saying hello. I’ll buy you a drink next time.
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nope.

I was really speaking more generally.

you are right on this instance of rent freezes and nimbyists driving up housing costs.

but where were you on banker bailouts during the mortgage crisis of o8?

what effect did that have on housing prices?
 
Freddy Figbottom said:
nope.

I was really speaking more generally.

you are right on this instance of rent freezes and nimbyists driving up housing costs.

but where were you on banker bailouts during the mortgage crisis of o8?

what effect did that have on housing prices?
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By the time of the bank bailouts housing prices had already collapsed. Prices didn’t start recovering for years until demand returned.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Yes, and so the Party takes enormous efforts to make sure that does not happen, because that would weaken China....and now is the time for China to shine again......failure of the leaders can not be allowed to fuck that up.
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So lets try that again since you avoiding answering entirely or are you saying the people are "yes" free to reject Xi and his Party and have different leadership??? ...

So how do you define Xi and the Party?

Are the people of China free to choose anyone else to rule them?
 
EdwinA said:
Well, it's official; you're completely insane, or a hired propaganda shill for the Cadre.
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it is hard to say this but his China sycophancy and delusion seems almost as strong and a direct parallel to the magats one for Trump.

It is eerily similar in scope and delusion. As you say "completely insane and a hired propaganda shill" or worse.
 
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EdwinA said:
You then go on to prove he did indeed hire green card workers, and then you also left out the various sub-contractors and business partners who hire them. I said 'probably', merely for effect. By the time you round up all those who Palantir relied on, you will end up far closer to 1,000 than 'none', or a lot in fact. Parallel applied for around 140 H1-B's and green cards alone. Applying for worker visas is itself a claim of a 'labor shortage'. Like all 'businessmen', Thiel is a hypocrite and would sell anybody out for a buck like all the rest of the tech hustlers. He says whatever suits himself at the moment, period.
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Is that so?
 
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