Rural MAGA town loses only medical center

[Into the Night]

If a doctor harms a patient, this should be criminal, not about money. Money is like honey for flies. While a person harmed by negligence or incompetence should be compensated, that doesn't negate the need for tort reform when it comes to medical lawsuits.

YARP. Strawman fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

The shutdown is yours.

I am not a Democrat, Cyborg.

You have all three branches, and if you really wanted to you could get rid of the 60 vote threshold on continuing resolutions.

That takes 60% of the vote to do that, Cyborg.

 

[Into the Night]

And that is core Trump country realizing that while Trump enriches himself and his favored Oligarchs at each and every turn with breaks from tariffs and tax cuts he is hurting the poorest in Trump country more than any other citizens in the country.

Over and over every Trump move is attacking the programs and benefits that Trump country relies on more than any other.

Trump doesn't build or run clinics, Kewpie.

 

[Into the Night]

You are the epitome of the way that idiots behave.

LIF. Grow up.

 

[Into the Night]

You got things a bit backwards here.

Inversion fallacy.

No one cares about your ranting about Trump and how victimized you feel.

Inversion fallacy.

It is Farmers and other Rural folk in magat country who are "ranting" at how Trump is harming them despite them voting for him.

Trump does not build or run clinics, Kewpie.

And i get it, as you are so deep in the Trump cult you do not care if he hurts his base and you do not care if they care, but where you make a mistake due to your cult beliefs is thinking it does not matter.

Trump does not build or run clinics, Kewpie.

You are too stupid to understand the above and just close your eyes to reality.

Buzzword fallacy. Go learn what 'reality' means and how it's defined.

 

[Into the Night]

The better question is about government priorities as they spend tax payer dollars.

It is not government's job to open clinics, Kewpie.

Trump has big priorities, and while he claimed in the election campaigning that it was 'the forgotten rural parts of america', it is undeniable now that he will shift tax payer from them, harming them the most, to his selected Oligarchs who pay him tribute and give him personal gifts.

Trump is not a Democrat, Kewpie.

He is shifting the nations tax base recipients by giving exemption after exemption to the most wealthy Oligarchs while taking that tax money from rural hospitals and other social services that magats rely on more than any other.,

Trump is not a Democrat, Kewpie.
It is not the government's job to open or run clinics.

So i would say you have been fooled by this discussion into arguing 'are these expenditures "needed", "justifiable", "etc", from one of 'this is our tax money and it should benefit us".

It is not the government's job to open or run clinics.

BTW that is EXACTLY what top magat government officials want you to do. They would like you to go thru and say 'cut health care', 'cut education', 'cut all social spending', because you think it is not needed while NOT THEN SEEING they then give all those tax dollars to the uber rich.

Trump is not a Democrat. It is not the government's job to open or run clinics.

Which is why in Trumps 1st term the debt and deficit surged to new records even pre covid.

Trump is not Congress, Kewpie. The Covid Hoax was by Democrats, which started a 5 year economic depression and was a major factor in Democrat election fraud that caused the 2020 election to fault.

Even if you (collective "you") think the programs are wasteful and inefficient and need rationalization, if you do not care more that they are not taking these "Savings" and paying down the debt and instead are just making the 1% even richer than you are the dupe they were hoping for.

Repetition.(chanting). Your conspiracy theory is YOUR problem, Kewpie.

 

[Tbird19482]

You did.

You did.

I don't believe you. You are a nothing, Tball.

A firetruck is not a hospital or clinic, Tball.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

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Sybil loves the attention. It's pretty boring in his facility. Sad.

 

[Nordberg]

I've asked this before and haven't received an answer...

If the government doesn't build a Curtis Children's Hospital in Curtis, does that mean they are ok with children not getting the medical care they need and are ok with children dying?

What about a cancer center? Should the government build a cancer center in Curtis and every other small, rural town in the country?

The government does not do that. Our medical system is privatised. It works on maximizing profits so the top bosses can get super rich. They have been consolidating facilities and merging with other Medical Corporations for decades.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The government does not do that. Our medical system is privatised. It works on maximizing profits so the top bosses can get super rich. They have been consolidating facilities and merging with other Medical Corporations for decades.

That's happened where I live. Medical City is taking over all the facilities, consolidating doctors and clinics. Presumably in an effort to become efficient.

 

[EdwinA]

Who said anything about raising taxes

Who said anything about raising taxed to provide these things?
Having been a volunteer Firemen and a EMT I know what it takes to provide firetrucks and emergency equipment and in this area usually about 60 to 70% of the money needed to purchase these thing are raised by our fire companies , I have been on fund raising drives for longer then you have been alive..

lol what? Smoking rocks and trying to lie is always a failure, gimp.

 

[Tbird19482]

lol what? Smoking rocks and trying to lie is always a failure, gimp.

Our fire depts. are independent from government run fire depts. and are incorporated for ins. reasons and they do get some help to buy their equipment but they raise the majority ( 70/75% )of the funds to buy trucks and other equipment on their own.
And as I said I have been helping raise those funds since I was about 10 years old and have been a qualified First aid/ EMT instructor since I was 11 years old.
I know what I am talking about I have been there and done that.

 

[Into the Night]

Sybil loves the attention. It's pretty boring in his facility. Sad.

Very true, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

The government does not do that.

Then why did you say it did??

Our medical system is privatised.

No such word. Our medical care is private industry.

It works on maximizing profits so the top bosses can get super rich.

You never could figure out competition and price discovery, could you?

They have been consolidating facilities and merging with other Medical Corporations for decades.

Lie. Facilities come and go.

 

[Into the Night]

Our fire depts. are independent from government run fire depts. and are incorporated for ins. reasons and they do get some help to buy their equipment but they raise the majority ( 70/75% )of the funds to buy trucks and other equipment on their own.

So?

And as I said I have been helping raise those funds since I was about 10 years old and have been a qualified First aid/ EMT instructor since I was 11 years old.
I know what I am talking about I have been there and done that.

Pretending doesn't make you an EMT instructor or qualified in first aid, Tball.

 

[EdwinA]

Our fire depts. are independent from government run fire depts. and are incorporated for ins. reasons and they do get some help to buy their equipment but they raise the majority ( 70/75% )of the funds to buy trucks and other equipment on their own.
And as I said I have been helping raise those funds since I was about 10 years old and have been a qualified First aid/ EMT instructor since I was 11 years old.
I know what I am talking about I have been there and done that.

Well, as an idiot you probably think you said something here, but all you really did was prove you don't know shit. Federal and state govts. offer funds and equipment to emergency services of all kinds, as well as training. And again, if you want a big local hospital just organize your county and use your own tax base; my county still has a public hospital, operated by Catholic nuns and binds issued by our county and city. Now run along and parrot the next TDS moron talking points of the day for you gimps; you're done here.

 

[EdwinA]

So?

Pretending doesn't make you an EMT instructor or qualified in first aid, Tball.

He's so full of shit it's a wonder he hasn't been flushed down a sewer yet.

 

[ZenMode]

The better question is about government priorities as they spend tax payer dollars.

Trump has big priorities, and while he claimed in the election campaigning that it was 'the forgotten rural parts of america', it is undeniable now that he will shift tax payer from them, harming them the most, to his selected Oligarchs who pay him tribute and give him personal gifts.

He is shifting the nations tax base recipients by giving exemption after exemption to the most wealthy Oligarchs while taking that tax money from rural hospitals and other social services that magats rely on more than any other.,

So i would say you have been fooled by this discussion into arguing 'are these expenditures "needed", "justifiable", "etc", from one of 'this is our tax money and it should benefit us".

BTW that is EXACTLY what top magat government officials want you to do. They would like you to go thru and say 'cut health care', 'cut education', 'cut all social spending', because you think it is not needed while NOT THEN SEEING they then give all those tax dollars to the uber rich. Which is why in Trumps 1st term the debt and deficit surged to new records even pre covid.

Even if you (collective "you") think the programs are wasteful and inefficient and need rationalization, if you do not care more that they are not taking these "Savings" and paying down the debt and instead are just making the 1% even richer than you are the dupe they were hoping for.

This is a completely separate topic from a discussion about whether or not

The better question is about government priorities as they spend tax payer dollars.

Trump has big priorities, and while he claimed in the election campaigning that it was 'the forgotten rural parts of america', it is undeniable now that he will shift tax payer from them, harming them the most, to his selected Oligarchs who pay him tribute and give him personal gifts.

He is shifting the nations tax base recipients by giving exemption after exemption to the most wealthy Oligarchs while taking that tax money from rural hospitals and other social services that magats rely on more than any other.,

So i would say you have been fooled by this discussion into arguing 'are these expenditures "needed", "justifiable", "etc", from one of 'this is our tax money and it should benefit us".

BTW that is EXACTLY what top magat government officials want you to do. They would like you to go thru and say 'cut health care', 'cut education', 'cut all social spending', because you think it is not needed while NOT THEN SEEING they then give all those tax dollars to the uber rich. Which is why in Trumps 1st term the debt and deficit surged to new records even pre covid.

Even if you (collective "you") think the programs are wasteful and inefficient and need rationalization, if you do not care more that they are not taking these "Savings" and paying down the debt and instead are just making the 1% even richer than you are the dupe they were hoping for.

I'm not going to defend Trump's handling of the budget, taxes, etc but, putting that aside, I don't think the people of Curtis should expect to have a medical center. Like I said, their population is less than half that of my high school. There's no way less than half of my HS student population could support, or justify, and on-campus medical center.

 

[ZenMode]

The government does not do that. Our medical system is privatised. It works on maximizing profits so the top bosses can get super rich. They have been consolidating facilities and merging with other Medical Corporations for decades.

I understand that, but the implication is that there is an obligation on the part of the federal government, to have a tax/spending policy that allows a small, rural town to have something they otherwise wouldn't have.

 

[QP!]

This is a completely separate topic from a discussion about whether or not

I'm not going to defend Trump's handling of the budget, taxes, etc but, putting that aside, I don't think the people of Curtis should expect to have a medical center. Like I said, their population is less than half that of my high school. There's no way less than half of my HS student population could support, or justify, and on-campus medical center.

They are not really separate though but that is what Trump wants you to believe.

There is a reason the GOP Potus prior and now Trump (Magat Potus) will always run massive debt and deficits. ALWAYS!

They went from a party, pre Nixon, who were genuine debt hawks to becoming the party who puts on far more debt then Democrats EACH AND EVERY TIME THEY GET POWER NO MATTER THE ECONOMY STATUS.

The reason for that is that they fear if they pay down debt and hand over a good economy to the Dem's they will then be able to expand the social safety net with public support and the GOP screaming 'but debt' will not rally the voters. So instead they WANT to always hand to Dem Potus the treasury that was just burdened with massive new debt (by them) so they can scream, 'WE ARE DROWNING IN DEBT AND CANNOT AFFORD YOUR PROGRAMS', and the voters look at the debt and think 'ya'.

Again the US is unique in the 1st world in this regard and get away with it as people like you say 'oh that is another topic... i do not want to consider that and instead lets talk about the affordability of these social programs instead'.