Do you think they have much on Comey?

Jarod said:
I think I agree, if I understood your meaning... If Trump is on the list in an incriminating way, MTG would not be callin for the release.

However, what if she does not know, has not seen it, and assumes that of course Trump is innocent. . .
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If she plans on "reading all the names" she's read it, seen it, and has it on hand.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
In any other administration, I'd agree, but this is Trump's administration and he dictates to both the DOJ and FBI. They'll do whatever he wants. If they don't, he'll fire them and find someone else who is willing to push this all the way to court.

Again, IMO, this is JAED. Maybe once the files are released, this might stop.
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Could be, but the REAL attorneys in DOJ have balked at this case. Halligan herself is not competent enough to move the case forward.
 
Jarod said:
Trump would rage and fire them, I believe they were specifically hired because they said they would do it.
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Perhaps so. Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre didn’t work so well for him.

But, only Halligan was hired and she is not competent enough to handle a trial like this.
 
LurchAddams said:
www.independent.co.uk

MTG threatens to ‘say every damn name’ on House floor over Jeffrey Epstein clients

MAGA firebrand Marjorie Taylor Greene has joined forces with Democrats to pressure the Trump administration to release the entirety of the Epstein files
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

"Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said the CIA, FBI and the Justice Department “holds the truth” on Jeffrey Epstein as she vowed to reveal “every damn name” of the purported high-powered clients of the late financier’s underage sex trafficking operation.

The Georgia representative, a Trump loyalist, dialed up the pressure on her own party by speaking at a news conference on Capitol Hill Wednesday, hosted by fellow rogue GOP Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna of California.

Greene has backed Massie’s “Epstein Files Transparency Bill,” along with fellow GOP congress members Lauren Boebert and Nancy Mace. They were joined by as many as 100 survivors of Epstein’s abuse at the event."
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The more Trump tries to run from the Epstein Files, the more they stick to his ample ass.

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domer76 said:
Perhaps so. Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre didn’t work so well for him.

But, only Halligan was hired and she is not competent enough to handle a trial like this.
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Should be interesting if they can find a trial attorney willing to do it, I bet they can, there is some fall guy out there who wants to take one for Trump.
 
Damocles said:
Yah... convoluted.

MTG is HUGE Trump supporter. That she doesn't suddenly care about the release of the names tells me that Trump's name, if it is there, does not incriminate him. If I needed proof that Trump will not be incriminated by this release, MTG's wish to have the names out does the trick.
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Ok, so you think MTG has the inside scoop on who or who isn't incriminated in the Epstein list. Two questions:

1. If there's nothing incriminating to trump, why didn't trump ok the release the names and details of their involvement. trump doesn't give a shit about anyone else's welfare but his own.

2. Do you think Massey, Boebert, Mace, and Ro are in on the conspiracy as well, or just MTG?
 
domer76 said:
Could be, but the REAL attorneys in DOJ have balked at this case. Halligan herself is not competent enough to move the case forward.
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Agreed...and They serve at the pleasure of the President. He'll fire anyone who disagrees with him. That's how the Orange Jesus rolls.

I have no doubt they'll get their asses kicked in court. There's no case here. It's just harassment and intimidation by Trump.
 
LurchAddams said:
Ok, so you think MTG has the inside scoop on who or who isn't incriminated in the Epstein list. Two questions:

1. If there's nothing incriminating to trump, why didn't trump ok the release the names and details of their involvement. trump doesn't give a shit about anyone else's welfare but his own.

2. Do you think Massey, Boebert, Mace, and Ro are in on the conspiracy as well, or just MTG?
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I surmised long ago that he's protecting someone and could not imagine why. Maybe one of his kids is on the list... :dunno:
 
For the crew that were talking about "lawfare" all through Biden's admin:

Do you have anything from Biden - a tweet, a speech, an interview, any comment - where he's pressuring the DOJ in a similar manner to what we have seen from Trump repetitively in tweets, speeches and interviews about Comey and others?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
A slight disagreement. He didn't get away from releasing the Epstein files. He's still running from them.

Run, Donnie, Run!

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QP! said:
All accurate but It is far worse than that.

There is an Inspector General report which did a full investigation of this and found it was McCabe and NOT Comey who was not being fully honest or disclosing.

So if the basis of these charges is over the Congress question by Ted Cruz summarized ast, 'it is either McCabe lied or you (Comey) lied, so which is it?', and the DoJ is trying to push it was Comey that lied that creates a 'he said/ he said' dispute between Comey and McCabe's claims. And while a jury can render findings in such disputes, to get to beyond a 'reasonable doubt' requires some pretty substantive evidence. This IG report is substantive evidence the other way.



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AI Summary:

What the IG Report Found / Concluded​


  • McCabe authorized two FBI officials to speak with a reporter for The Wall Street Journal regarding the investigation; however, McCabe later denied or minimized this authorization in various statements. Politico+3CNBC+3The Washington Post+3
  • McCabe “Lacked candor” on multiple occasions:
    • With Comey (his boss) when asked if he had authorized disclosure; he gave an account that led Comey to believe McCabe wasn’t involved. Politico+1
    • With internal FBI/DOJ/IG investigators—including under oath—about his awareness and involvement. Vox+3CBS News+3The Washington Post+3
  • The report determined that Comey’s account was more credible than McCabe’s where their stories diverged. The IG found that “the overwhelming weight of the evidence” supported Comey’s version in key respects. Politico+2CNBC+2
  • The authorization to the media (via the two officials McCabe approved) was found to have violated policy, primarily because of how and when the disclosure was made and McCabe’s representations regarding it. CNBC+2The Washington Post+2
  • McCabe changed his story over time: initially some denials of knowledge / authorization; later admissions or partial acknowledgments.
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they both lied.
 
Damocles said:
I surmised long ago that he's protecting someone and could not imagine why. Maybe one of his kids is on the list... :dunno:
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....or it's full of evidence about Trump's ill-gotten gains from laundering Epstein money through his casinos. Lots of rape cases are he said/she said, but money leaves a trail.

Let's not forget why Trump never released his tax records. LOL

Isn't there a law about fruits from illegal enterprises? What about a lawsuit from the victims against Trump's profits from his business with Epstein?....plus interest, of course. :)

Everyone knows how much Trump loooooves his money!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
....or it's full of evidence about Trump's ill-gotten gains from laundering Epstein money through his casinos. Lots of rape cases are he said/she said, but money leaves a trail.

Let's not forget why Trump never released his tax records. LOL

Isn't there a law about fruits from illegal enterprises? What about a lawsuit from the victims against Trump's profits from his business with Epstein?....plus interest, of course. :)

Everyone knows how much Trump loooooves his money!
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I don't think MTG would be willing to incriminate Trump. Seriously, I think she'd be less likely to than Trump himself.
 
Damocles said:
Yah... convoluted.

MTG is HUGE Trump supporter. That she doesn't suddenly care about the release of the names tells me that Trump's name, if it is there, does not incriminate him. If I needed proof that Trump will not be incriminated by this release, MTG's wish to have the names out does the trick.
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That would only make sense if you also assumed MTG ws given full disclosure of all the doc's and thus she knows Trump is not in them in an incriminating way.

The other, more realistic option, is that MTG is so far in the tank for Trump and riddled with TDS that she simply can NEVER believe he is guilty of anything suggested or accused of and thus she always thinks exposing everything will expose 'deep state' smears against him.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed...and They serve at the pleasure of the President. He'll fire anyone who disagrees with him. That's how the Orange Jesus rolls.

I have no doubt they'll get their asses kicked in court. There's no case here. It's just harassment and intimidation by Trump.
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It will be interesting to see who is willing to put their career on the line for a loser case.
 
Damocles said:
I surmised long ago that he's protecting someone and could not imagine why. Maybe one of his kids is on the list... :dunno:
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I think some of the conspiracy theories about Epstein being connected with Mossad may be more true than we first thought. It sure would explain a lot.
 
Damocles said:
Yah... convoluted.

MTG is HUGE Trump supporter. That she doesn't suddenly care about the release of the names tells me that Trump's name, if it is there, does not incriminate him. If I needed proof that Trump will not be incriminated by this release, MTG's wish to have the names out does the trick.
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or it doesn't mean shit and everyone up there is reading their lines as told.

our reality is just a deep state l.a.r.p.

:truestory:
 
LurchAddams said:
Great synopsis. Trying to saddle Comey with something McCabe did.

I love the classy way Comey told Trump, "come and get me, I don't scare".
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i am not even saying McCabe did anything wrong, as there is doubt there too.

What i am saying is 'he said, he or she said' disputes are amongst the hardest cases to get a jury to a conclusion on 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. It almost always requires substantial other fact points or investigations pointing to who is lying, for a jury to get there.

In this case the most substantial fact point we know of is the IG Investigation which basically affirmed Comey's credibly in his account while saying they had doubts over McCabe's.

So when the jury hears that and reads that Investigation report, how that would not give them doubt, seems beyond impossible.
 
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