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I'm having a conversation with you and I'm telling you that the issue of intelligence is key to understanding why many people believe that women should be allowed to terminate their pregnancies.
You are saying that "intelligence" is somehow the key to understanding why "many" people believe that women should have killing supremacy and should be allowed to hire professional contract killers to kill living humans with impunity whereas men must obey the law and refrain from hiring any contract killers.

Please explain this "key."
 
I accept Wikipedia as a starting point in discussions.
You are chanting. Yes, you accept drug pushers as a starting point for festivities, you accept pimps as a starting point for women coming into the job market, you accept Wikipedia as a starting point for harmful, ideological indoctrination, and you accept online casinos as a starting point for budding investors.
 
He argued for ambiguity. Then he tries to deny his own argument. He is still locked in this paradox, and his continue evasions won't clear it.
This is his last remaining option. He won't address his support for contract killing. When pressed, he denies set theory to buy enough time to pretend that we are talking about abortion instead of contract killing. Repeat.

By the way, I think you have a stalker who keeps flipping you the bird every single post.
 
So when it comes to Trump's policies on immigration or abortion, I'm pretty sure I'm on her side.
Supremacy. I get it.
If you like, you can try to explain what you mean by supremacy in this context.
I already have, several times.
Link to one such occassion then.
I think I get to choose the quantity.

Sure, but I also get to choose how much linked material I respond to.

Au contraire, mon frère, the article states clearly in the very first sentence that the topic is gay supremacy, and what follows are simply battles in attaining that goal. "The fight for gay rights in the United States has come a long way." Gays are not fighting for equality, which would be wholly unacceptable. Gays are fighting for supremacy, for gay rights that are not to be granted to others. If gay supremacy is not recognized, they will assuredly cry "VICTIM!".

gay rights = gay supremacy

This is directly from your article. The very first sentence gives it away.

I responded to that post in my post #827. Quoting from it:
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This seems rather akin to you equating abortion with contract killings. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are others who feel the same way you do. I'm just not someone of that persuasion.
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You responded to said post in your post #833. Quoting from it:
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I did not equate the two. I defined contract killings and asked you why you support them.
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The final response in this subthread was mine, in post #861 over a week ago. I invite you to take a look and perhaps respond to it after all this time.
 
I distinctly recall telling you that I didn't see a difference between them.
... and you distinctly recall never having asked me.

Many words have more than one definition.
Nope. No English words have a definition. All have wide-ranging descriptions, though.

I imagine most if not all of them didn't start that way.
All did.

Some definitions increase in popularity,
Is there more than one? If so, it's not the definition.

I don't see any of this 'must be forthwith adhered',
Obviously not for descriptions that are not definitions. This should be another clue for you.

especially not when talking informally with people.
... which is why they are simply descriptions to aid in usage.

... but to get into a dictionary, there generally has to be a pretty established base of people using the definitions contained therein.
Error. To get into a dictionary, the owner of the dictionary website simply has to decide to put it in his dictionary. I shouldn't have to tell you this.

Only if we're dealing with things like programming, engineering and the law.
Do you mean to say that it only applies in communication that has bearing on society?

Regular conversations don't have such strict rules.
The less bearing it has on society, the fewer the rules. In fact, there are no rules and no definitions applied to those who are raving incoherently.

... it becomes a problem when people have different views on things, such as on whether pregnant women should be allowed to have voluntary abortions.
So, you are saying that rules and definitions become a problem when they reveal your indefensible position for what it is, e.g. when it exposes your support for a subset of contract killings, yes?

This is when dictionary or encyclopedia definitions -can- be a lifesaver
Not when the dictionary or excyclopedia errors are providing one with the dishonesty necessary to disguise one's indefensible positions.

, so long as both parties in a debate agree to use definitions found therein.
... which explains why you balk at accepting even obvious and straightforward definitions.

people can and do have multiple definitions for the same words.
Nope, then it is not the definition.

Again with this notion that only one definition can apply to a word in informal conversations.
A word can have various meanings, but once it is defined, it is defined. If that same word is then redefined, it takes on the new definition and shirks the old one.

This simply isn't the case.
It is absolutely the case. No word can have more than one "The Defintion".

I decided to take a look on the legal definition(s) for abortion.
Since we are talking about "contract killing", why do you support it?
 
I was referring to you.
You were referring to yourself inadvertently

No, I was referring to you.

It's easy to preach things like "Marxis is global and entrenched".
Are you saying that you find it easy to state the obvious?

No, I'm saying that it's easy to preach or proclaim just about anything. What's generally much harder is to provide solid evidence for a lot of those claims.
 
I think your "whatever" says it all. You seem to simply be assuming that I have ignored evidence.
That is the standing assumption. You declare in every other post "I haven't seen any evidence" when there is mountainous evidence. Your default is to ignore all evidence that runs counter to whatever Wikipedia directs you to believe. If Wikipedia tells you to ignore set theory, you declare that you haven't seen any evidence that set theory has ever worked.

If you want that assumption to go away, you have to start seeing evidence again.

I still remember when you suggested that I might be right concerning the lack of evidence that biological viruses exist. What changed?
How is that relevant to your support for contract killings?
 
We clearly disagree at times on what is and isn't truthful, but I suspect that you might agree in part with me in the following exercise, at least when it comes to covid vaccines. I will quote the first sentence from Wikipedia's article on vaccines and then point out where I think it's flawed:
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A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious or malignant disease.
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I disagree that it provides immunity to anything.
It is easy to preach, but more difficult to provide support.

On this we agree :)

What is your rational basis for rejecting all research thus far? What specific research have you conducted?

The first definition given by the American Heritage Dictionary, 5th edition on the term research is "Careful study of a given subject, field, or problem, undertaken to discover facts or principles." This is the definition I'm using here.

I have certainly done this when it comes to vaccines, purchasing books on vaccines on kindle such as Dissolving Illusions , How Vaccines Wreck Human Immunity and Vaccine Illusion. I don't agree with everything in these books, but I certainly agree with a fair amount of the material.
 
Please notice the mental gymnastics you performed in order to exclude abortion, which is an unspoken Special Pleading fallacy.

I've decided that the subject of abortion, specifically how to define it, deserves a thread of its own. I have started to respond to IBDaMann's post referenced above in this new thread, specifically here:
 
I get it. I like swimming in the abyss; the water is ice cold, just how I like it. Yes, I actually do prefer wading in a the peaceful, warm waters of a caribbean beach, but I'll go down with the Titanic as well.

I'll drop you a line from the abyss and keep you posted on how the debris is scattering.
Your bit about the titanic got me thinking of ways to go.
Planning on dying?

I don't know anyone who has escaped death after 100 years and change, but I started thinking of death because of what IBDaMann said in the post I was responding to. If you've seen the Titanic film, you know that the prospect of death features prominently near the end of the film. But I didn't just bring it up to contemplate death, but rather to comtemplate the direction of conversations and how people can stear them to warmer waters. That's where I was going in the next 2 sentences of the post you were responding to. For the audience who might not have seen said sentences, here they are in conjunction with the first:

Your bit about the titanic got me thinking of ways to go. Tyrian's response to a bandit leader still makes me smile :-p. It's here if you're interested:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NQiHtbpa8s


Apparently, Into the Night believed these sentences to be random, but perhaps with the added explanation above, he and perhaps some in the audience will be able to read more into them.
 
Nobody can alter any dogma that Wikipedia staff has locked down.
I'm not talking about editing Wikipedia itself, I'm talking about the discussions we have here about it. We can certainly criticize Wikipedia passages that we find to be untruthful in online forums. I've certainly done this in the past.
You cannot use Wikipedia as a source.

I can and I do. That being said, I tend to use it as a starting point for a subject, and I also tend to avoid using it for certain subjects where I disagree with it.
 
If Wikipedia's sources in a particular article are bad, they can frequently be shown to be bad. I've done this in the past. The point is, at least they have sources that we can take a look at. Many mainstream publications don't even list their sources, meaning you frequently can't even figure out where they got their information from.
Won't work. You cannot use Wikipedia as a source.

I've already addressed your notion that Wikipedia can't be used as a source in post #1436. The point I'm trying to make is that Wikipedia may not always be the best of sources and there are subjects where I avoid using it precisely for this reason. That being said, there are other subjects where I think it's an acceptable source, especially when starting a discussion on said other subjects.
 
It's easy to preach things like "[Marxism] is global and entrenched". What's generally much harder is to provide evidence for one's assertions.
Marxism. It is global and entrenched. It is not preaching. It history, which you deny.

I think the word preaching is apt here, because as with many religions, anyone who disagrees with the preacher is simply dismissed. The late David Ray Griffin, a former American professor of philosophy of religion and theology, once stated the following, which I think is quite apt when it comes to your stance above on marxism:
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A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.

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