Mark Levin on Tariffs and courts.

Can't face the facts; okay, not anything new. Most Yankees like to lie about the Civil War; it needs to pretend it was fighting over principles, not merely money and plunder, and of course to keep blacks out of the North and the new territories, not free them.
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Can't face the facts; okay, not anything new.
Go learn what 'fact' means. It does NOT mean 'Universal Truth'.
Most Yankees like to lie about the Civil War;
The nation has never had a civil war. The War of Secession was not a civil war. It was a war between two nations.
it needs to pretend it was fighting over principles,
It was.
not merely money and plunder,
What 'money and plunder'???
and of course to keep blacks out of the North and the new territories, not free them.
Black people lived free in northern States, even if they were often looked down upon.
It was primarily the southern States that practiced slavery. The same States the seceded from the Union and formed the CSA.
 
Go learn what 'fact' means. It does NOT mean 'Universal Truth'.

The nation has never had a civil war. The War of Secession was not a civil war. It was a war between two nations.

It was.

What 'money and plunder'???

Black people lived free in northern States, even if they were often looked down upon.
It was primarily the southern States that practiced slavery. The same States the seceded from the Union and formed the CSA.

Repetitive rubbish.


"But what am I to do in the meantime with those men at Montgomery [meaning the Confederate constitutional convention]? Am I to let them go on...[a]nd open Charleston, etc., as ports of entry, with their ten-percent tariff. What, then, would become of my tariff?" ~Lincoln to Colonel John B. Baldwin, deputized by the Virginian Commissioners to determine whether Lincoln would use force, April 4,1861.

"You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Fort Sumter, even if it should fail ; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result. "
Abraham Lincoln, in a letter to Gustavus Fox, May 1, 1861

"Union means so many millions a year lost to the South; secession means the loss of the same millions to the North. The love of money is the root of this as of many other evils....The quarrel between the North and South is, as it stands, solely a fiscal quarrel"....Charles ****ens in a London periodical in December 1861

"The contest is really for empire on the side of the North and for independence on that of the South...."...... London Times of 7 Nov 1861

"Slavery is not the cause of the rebellion ....Slavery is the pretext on which the leaders of the rebellion rely, 'to fire the Southern Heart' and through which the greatest degree of unanimity can be produced....Mr.Calhoun, after finding that the South could not be brought into sufficient unanimity by a clamor about the tariff, selected slavery as the better subject for agitation".....North American Review (Boston October 1862)

"They [the South] know that it is their import trade that draws from the people's pockets sixty or seventy millions of dollars per annum, in the shape of duties, to be expended mainly in the North, and in the protection and encouragement of Northern interests....These are the reasons why these people [the North] do not wish the South to secede from the Union." .....New Orleans Daily Crescent 21 January 1861

"In one single blow our foreign commerce must be reduced to less than one-half what it now is. Our coast wise trade would pass into other hands. One-half of our shipping would lie idle at our wharves. We should lose our trade with the South, with all of its immense profits. Our manufactories would be in utter ruins. Let the South adopt the free-trade system, or that of a tariff for revenue, and these results would likely follow." ....Chicago Daily Times December 1860

"At once shut down every Southern port, destroy its commerce and bring utter ruin on the Confederate States."..... NY Times 22 March 1861

"the mask has been thrown off and it is apparent that the people of the principal seceding states are now for commercial independence. They dream that the centres of traffic can be changed from Northern to Southern ports....by a revenue system verging on free trade...."....Boston Transcript 18 March 1861


"The affair at Fort Sumter, it seems to us, has been planned as a means by which the war feeling at the North should be intensified, and the administration thus receive popular support for its policy.... If the armament which lay outside the harbor, while the fort was being battered to pieces [the US ship The Harriet Lane, and seven other reinforcement ships], had been designed for the relief of Major Anderson, it certainly would have made a show of fulfilling its mission. But it seems plain to us that no such design was had. The administration, virtually, to use a homely illustration, stood at Sumter like a boy with a chip on his shoulder, daring his antagonist to knock it off. The Carolinians have knocked off the chip. War is inaugurated, and the design of the administration accomplished."~ The Buffalo Daily Courier, April 16, 1861.

"We have no doubt, and all the circumstances prove, that it was a cunningly devised scheme, contrived with all due attention to scenic display and intended to arouse, and, if possible, exasperate the northern people against the South.... We venture to say a more gigantic conspiracy against the principles of human liberty and freedom has never been concocted. Who but a fiend could have thought of sacrificing the gallant Major Anderson and his little band in order to carry out a political game? Yet there he was compelled to stand for thirty-six hours amid a torrent of fire and shell, while the fleet sent to assist him, coolly looked at his flag of distress and moved not to his assistance! Why did they not? Perhaps the archives in Washington will yet tell the tale of this strange proceeding.... Pause then, and consider before you endorse these madmen who are now, under pretense of preserving the Union, doing the very thing that must forever divide it." ~The New York Evening Day-Book, April 17, 1861.

The Peanut gallery can amuse themselves wondering why Congress focused on the Morrill Tarriffs, the Homestead Acts, and the Union Pacific Railroad Acts and other golden calves ripe for plunder and swindling and thievery for years before ever getting around to pretending to care about 'slavery n stuff', and of course Lincoln's own martial law that forced 'free blacks' to work the government run plantations and unable to leave without written permission from the carpetbaggers running them and cramming them into 'contraband camps' to starve and die of disease in conditions as bad as Andersonville and other POW camps, meanwhile as the North exported record harvests to Europe. Lincoln didn't babble about 'Emancipation' until 1863.

Also note that Lincoln's own state enacted strong Black Codes right before the war, with no objections from Lincoln on record anywhere. In fact most 'abolitionists' were white nationalists advocating shipping them all back to Africa, not 'freeing them'.

AI Overview

Exploring Historic Black Codes: Combating Prejudice with ...
In the 1850s, both Indiana and Illinois enacted Black Codes that severely restricted the rights and freedoms of African Americans. These laws, enacted in the Northern states, aimed to discourage Black migration and maintain a racial hierarchy.


Illinois Black Codes:
  • Prohibited Black Emigration:
    The 1853 Black Law, considered one of the harshest in the North, banned African Americans from migrating into the state and imposed penalties for those who remained longer than 10 days.

  • Harsh Penalties:
    Violators faced fines and, if unable to pay, could be sold into labor to the highest bidder.


  • Restricted Rights:
    Black individuals were barred from testifying in court against white people, serving on juries, or in the militia.


  • Education:
    Public education was limited to white children only.


  • Limited Slavery:
    The Illinois Constitution allowed for limited slavery at salt mines and permitted French-introduced slavery to continue, with children of slaves freed upon reaching adulthood.


  • Racial Hierarchy:
    The laws reinforced a racial hierarchy by limiting Black people's access to education, legal rights, and economic opportunities.
Indiana Black Codes:
Similar to Illinois, Indiana's Black Codes were designed to discourage African American migration and maintain a segregated society.


Black people were denied the right to vote, testify against whites, and serve in the militia.


Restrictive Laws:
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Indiana went further than Illinois in some areas, potentially barring Black individuals altogether from entering the state.

Context:
  • These laws were enacted despite the growing abolitionist movement in the North.
Northern states, including Illinois and Indiana, were grappling with the issue of slavery and the presence of free Black populations.


  • The Black Codes reflected a desire to maintain a racial hierarchy and control the Black population, even in states that had not formally legalized slavery.


  • These codes were eventually overturned or weakened, but their legacy persisted in the form of Jim Crow laws, which were enacted after Reconstruction.
AI Overview

While Abraham Lincoln did not vote in favor of the Black Codes, he did vote against a resolution that would have condemned the institution of slavery and supported the rights of Black people to testify against white people in court. He also opposed a bill that would have granted suffrage to Black Americans. Furthermore, he did not object to the 1853 Illinois law that prohibited Black people from immigrating to the state and imposed fines and potential forced labor for those who violated the law, according to the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Library & Museums.
 
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Repetitive rubbish.
Then stop repeating yourself.
"But what am I to do in the meantime with those men at Montgomery [meaning the Confederate constitutional convention]? Am I to let them go on...[a]nd open Charleston, etc., as ports of entry, with their ten-percent tariff. What, then, would become of my tariff?" ~Lincoln to Colonel John B. Baldwin, deputized by the Virginian Commissioners to determine whether Lincoln would use force, April 4,1861.
The South Caroline militiamen fired the first shot, Edwina.
 
Then stop repeating yourself.

The South Caroline militiamen fired the first shot, Edwina.

Blockading ports are universally considered acts of war, whether shots are fired or not. Being tards who dislike real history and facts, this of course upsets you. Lincoln new exactly what the response would be, Buchanan had already done it before. Lincoln was just willing to murder lots of people in order to get his tariffs, is all.
 
because tariffs are a must have.

Not like the ones he was going to mass murder people over. 300% or more in some cases. He was a psycho railroad lawyer and sleazebag. All the money raised was to go to corporate welfare spending and projects that only benefited the northern states.
 
Not like the ones he was going to mass murder people over. 300% or more in some cases. He was a psycho railroad lawyer and sleazebag. All the money raised was to go to corporate welfare spending and projects that only benefited the northern states.
heads of state murder people over Jay walking laws too.

this is an odd case of cherry picking a bad aspect of war.

the whole nation eventually benefitted from the tariffs that made America a global superpower.

you're welcome.

the mistake was getting rid of them ever.

:truestory:
 
Blockading ports are universally considered acts of war,
The port was not blockaded at the time.
whether shots are fired or not.
The South Carolina militia fired the first shots.
Being tards who dislike real history and facts,
Go learn what 'fact' means. It does not mean 'Universal Truth'. Go learn what 'real' means. It does NOT mean 'Universal Truth'.
this of course upsets you.
The only upset is YOU, for some reason.
Lincoln new exactly what the response would be,
You don't get to speak for the dead. Omniscience fallacy.
Buchanan had already done it before. Lincoln was just willing to murder lots of people in order to get his tariffs, is all.
The War of Secession was not over tariffs.
 
Since repeating nonsense is most of your posts, repeating the facts is just fine.
LIF. You can't blame your problem on me or anybody else.
Irrelevant. Lincoln needed to kill anybody who resisted his extortion rackets.
What 'extortion racket'?????
That is what the railroads and bankers an industrialists hired him to do.
What 'railroads and bankers'???????

:cruisewhat:
 
What 'mass murder'?????

Mass murder has a percentage???????

A railroad is not a lawyer.

What 'welfare spending'??????

:cruisewhat:

Yes, you got nothing. Real history isn't kind to ideologues and Party shills. But don't worry, I didn't post the info because I actually care what ideologues think, I just post it so those who want to know real history can go check it out. We don't all worship the GOP and feel like babbling idiot propaganda like a kid being paid a nickel to sweep a sidewalk.
 
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