Told you this was coming.......

[Poor Richard Saunders]

With California, the loss of illegal immigrants hits much deeper than anywhere else. Not only do they lose multiple seats in the House and EC, but their economy takes a big hit that in turn slams the state government with a massive loss of revenue. That in turn will exacerbate the flight of business out of the state.

Deportations and Immigration Limits Threaten California Families, Economy

Deportations and immigration limits threaten families and the economy, risking jobs, housing, and food supply for millions statewide.

calbudgetcenter.org

How will Trump's immigration crackdown in California impact the economy?

Long term, economists warn that fewer immigrants could prompt labor shortages and slow economic growth.

www.usatoday.com

Study: Mass Deportations Would Cost California Economy $275 Billion, Decimate Critical Industries : Bay Area Council

Construction, Agriculture and Occupational Service Industries Would be Hit Particularly Hard while State, Local and Federal Budgets Would See Loss of $23 Billion Annually in Tax Revenue Tightly integrated into the California economy through millions of essential jobs that span a wide range of...

www.bayareacouncil.org

Massive loss of illegals in California, both out of the census and by deportation, will "Detroit" the state. The Left brought this on themselves using criminal, illegal, labor to prop up their economy.

Actually, Texas is hit much harder than California. Texas has 42,000 undocumented per House district. California has 36,000 undocumented per House district.

Number of Unauthorized (Illegal) Immigrants By US State - Brilliant Maps

Map by Visual Capitalist based on 2021 data from Pew ResearchThe map shows the estimated population of unauthorized immigrants in each state of the United

brilliantmaps.com

California has 52 districts and 1.9 million undocumented
Texas has 38 districts and 1.6 million undocumented.

 

[Stone]

It's funny how stupid you are and how much your math sucks.

The largest immigrant populations are in Texas, Florida and California so they would all likely lose a seat.
Texas has 42,000 undocumented per US House seat. California has 36,000 undocumented per House seat, Florida has 32,000 per House seat.
The states with the highest population per US representative that would likely gain seats are
Massachusetts, Ohio, and New York.

You don't seem to understand how House seats are created by the states that would lose them or gain them. House seats are based on actual voters. The number of Democratic voters doesn't change just because you created districts based on new criteria. Each state is still free to gerrymander the districts based on the voters.

Just keep telling yourself that. Yeah,...Trump and Miller want to get this done because it can't help them at all right

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Actually, Texas is hit much harder than California. Texas has 42,000 undocumented per House district. California has 36,000 undocumented per House district.

Number of Unauthorized (Illegal) Immigrants By US State - Brilliant Maps

Map by Visual Capitalist based on 2021 data from Pew ResearchThe map shows the estimated population of unauthorized immigrants in each state of the United

brilliantmaps.com

California has 52 districts and 1.9 million undocumented
Texas has 38 districts and 1.6 million undocumented.

The difference is that California seats go from blue to red while Texas ones go from red to red.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Just keep telling yourself that. Yeah,...Trump and Miller want to get this done because it can't help them at all right

No. They won't get it done because it is illegal for them to do it.

But you just keep on with your delusions.

And even if they did do it, it would probably help the Democrats. It seems that Trumpers can't do math.

 

[FastLane]

We absolutely have the Red infrastructure in place to make this happen. No doubt whatsoever. Not only do we have the infrastructure in place to do it, we have just the right kind of organization to maximize these gains. We now have it in our power to cut the lefts nuts off in one fell swoop,....absolutely castrate them for the foreseeable future. Trust me........this WILL happen.

My boy Stephen Miller KNOWS how important this is,....the whole administration does. They got this!

 

[FastLane]

The difference is that California seats go from blue to red while Texas ones go from red to red.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The difference is that California seats go from blue to red while Texas ones go from red to red.

Show your work.

Districts have to be of similar size in population. Voting population doesn't change since the same number of voters remain in the state. If
If most of the undocumented are in blue districts then those districts would have to include parts of red districts but the overwhelming blue voters remain in the districts. Texas has so packed their blue districts that if you add even 10% red it will still be overwhelmingly blue.
California would possibly lose a blue district if they lose a seat. Texas would for sure lose a red district if they lose a seat.

If Texas loses a seat in the US House, each of the remaining 37 districts would end up with 2.5% more voters than they had. Since most of the blue districts in Texas already have over 60% democratic votes, it would be almost impossible to split them up to lose one of those blue districts.

 

[Tbird19482]

The right-wing trumper hubris and stupidity never ends.

They actually think they can predict the outcomes of future elections based on bullshit propaganda about illegals voting, a myth that has been debunked countless times.

Stone Cold Stupid is among the über idiot class here at JPP.

And not to mention all their Gerrymandering .

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Show your work.

Districts have to be of similar size in population. Voting population doesn't change since the same number of voters remain in the state. If
If most of the undocumented are in blue districts then those districts would have to include parts of red districts but the overwhelming blue voters remain in the districts. Texas has so packed their blue districts that if you add even 10% red it will still be overwhelmingly blue.
California would possibly lose a blue district if they lose a seat. Texas would for sure lose a red district if they lose a seat.

If Texas loses a seat in the US House, each of the remaining 37 districts would end up with 2.5% more voters than they had. Since most of the blue districts in Texas already have over 60% democratic votes, it would be almost impossible to split them up to lose one of those blue districts.

The number of EC seats doesn't change. They remain the same, constant. The number of persons apportioned per seat changes. If a blue state loses population, and other blue states don't grow, like is happening right now, then those seats will be apportioned to states with growing populations, that is, red ones.

If a red state loses population, and blue states are not growing in population or are losing population, and other red states are growing in population, then the seats end up going to red states.

The other issue is blue districts are concentrated in terms of area, so they are less likely to grow in general in any case.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And not to mention all their Gerrymandering .

Both parties gerrymander and the Democrats are far more mendacious in doing it.

How Democrats learned to stop worrying and love the gerrymander

Republicans tilted the House map. Democrats are clawing their way back.

www.vox.com

How much gerrymandering is too much? In New York, the answer could make or break Dems' House hopes

New York’s highest court just gave Democrats a chance to redraw the state’s congressional districts, a major victory as the party tries to flip seats in the state to win control of the U.S.

apnews.com

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/585185-democrats-decry-gerrymandering-unless-they-control-the-maps/

So, don't give me that shit that only the Republicans gerrymander or that somehow they're more vicious than the Democrats in doing it. Both parties do it and when they get the chance, the Democrats are far, far worse offenders.

 

[EdwinA]

All those extra seats in BLUE states? GONE! All those extra EC votes in Blue states? GONE! EC votes taken from Blue states and shifted to growing red states? YES SIR! Tic tic tic tic tic tic.........

My prediction when everything is shifted and tallied? Net gain of 5-8 EC votes gained by red states. Those votes matter,...a lot! As far as seats go? Yet to be seen but my guess is fairly substantial. Add this to the overall trend towards Red sweeping the country and there is big change coming our way.

REpublicans should have taken the left wing idiots up on their 'electoral college repeal' gimmick. They would have had a larger New York and larger California Congressional delegation, and Illinois as well. there were 7 states with big vote gains, but I only remember those three. 48% of New York's, 38% of Cali's. There is a website that has the exact numbers by, state, but it was at least over 20 more total. Some 12-13 GOP instead of 7 for NY, 20 GOP seats instead of 9 for California. 16 more from two states alone.

 

[archives]

We absolutely have the Red infrastructure in place to make this happen. No doubt whatsoever. Not only do we have the infrastructure in place to do it, we have just the right kind of organization to maximize these gains. We now have it in our power to cut the lefts nuts off in one fell swoop,....absolutely castrate them for the foreseeable future. Trust me........this WILL happen.

My boy Stephen Miller KNOWS how important this is,....the whole administration does. They got this!

Numbers aren’t that high and it is the consequence of the population shift and gerrymandering, go away “stone,” your always a day late and a dollar short

 

[Yakuda]

The claim was Trump could not win because we did not think there were that many who were deluded by a clumsy, not bright conman. We underestimated the number of people who cannot resist a conman. You show how deeply conned people can be.

Yet your party selected a candidate that even you morons didnt want in the hopes of defeating that clumsy, not bright conman. LOL you people are either stupid or you did it on purpose. I'll let you pick

 

[Yakuda]

Numbers aren’t that high and it is the consequence of the population shift and gerrymandering, go away “stone,” your always a day late and a dollar short

Maybe next time you people should select a candidate that people in your part actually want.

 

[Nomad]

Both parties gerrymander and the Democrats are far more mendacious in doing it.

So, don't give me that shit that only the Republicans gerrymander or that somehow they're more vicious than the Democrats in doing it. Both parties do it and when they get the chance, the Democrats are far, far worse offenders.

Democrats only do it to keep up with and negate or offset the effects of Republicans' gerrymandering.

 

[archives]

Maybe next time you people should select a candidate that people in your part actually want.

No time, only ninety days, if you have lemons you make lemon aid, and given the amount of time and resources available, she actually did pretty good, Trump still only got 49%

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The number of EC seats doesn't change. They remain the same, constant. The number of persons apportioned per seat changes. If a blue state loses population, and other blue states don't grow, like is happening right now, then those seats will be apportioned to states with growing populations, that is, red ones.

If a red state loses population, and blue states are not growing in population or are losing population, and other red states are growing in population, then the seats end up going to red states.

The other issue is blue districts are concentrated in terms of area, so they are less likely to grow in general in any case.

You are forgetting one thing. The population is based on the census of 2020. No state can grow in population for reapportionment until after the 2030 census. All you are doing is taking the undocumented out of the totals. That means that Florida, California and Texas all shrink.

Then you are ignorant of another thing, in each state the districts must be relatively equal in population. When you eliminate a district in a state, the reduced districts must also be equal in population. You don't get to eliminate a district and just put all those voters in another district. Every district has to be redone to make them equal. If you have 2 blue districts that are 80% blue and 5 red districts that are 60% red, when you move from 7 to 6 districts, it would be impossible to have only 1 blue district and 5 red ones.

Not only did you not show how you came to your conclusion, you have shown you didn't do any actual work to reach your conclusion. Magical thinking doesn't work in the real world.

 

[Yakuda]

No time, only ninety days, if you have lemons you make lemon aid, and given the amount of time and resources available, she actually did pretty good, Trump still only got 49%

And won the popular vote and EC. If you thought your best alternative was the kamal then you did it on purpose. I swear i think imbecile joe would have been the better option. You could have at least argued "we'll stay the course" but money dried for the imbecile so he had to go because you cant have voters making the choices, right comrade?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Both parties gerrymander and the Democrats are far more mendacious in doing it.

How Democrats learned to stop worrying and love the gerrymander

Republicans tilted the House map. Democrats are clawing their way back.

www.vox.com

How much gerrymandering is too much? In New York, the answer could make or break Dems' House hopes

New York’s highest court just gave Democrats a chance to redraw the state’s congressional districts, a major victory as the party tries to flip seats in the state to win control of the U.S.

apnews.com

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/585185-democrats-decry-gerrymandering-unless-they-control-the-maps/

So, don't give me that shit that only the Republicans gerrymander or that somehow they're more vicious than the Democrats in doing it. Both parties do it and when they get the chance, the Democrats are far, far worse offenders.

If the Democrats are far worse, which state legislature in any of the last 4 election cycles is more than 60% democrat while having voted for the Republican nominee for President?

I give you Wisconsin in 2020. Vote for Biden for President. State legislature was GOP - 61-38 and 21-12.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Democrats only do it to keep up with and negate or offset the effects of Republicans' gerrymandering.

Bullshit! Democrats do it because they can do it.