Great job Hillary...

At the time the author wrote the article, they were not on board. So it is hardly surprising they assumed Russia and China would use the deal as an excuse not to jump on board with more sanctions. The fact that Russia and China are apparently going to support more sanctions is indeed a win for Clinton and Obama. (provided of course they actually follow through)

I saw your other post after I posted the question. You get it.

Let's hear from Yurtsie.
 
ok smartass...

1) The sanctions 'deal' was announced TODAY, the article was likely written last night for submission to the site. Thus the author could not have known.

2) I will wait to see what the 'sanctions' agreed to are and whether they are effective... as we all know the last three rounds have been unsuccessful.


The authors (the WSJ editorial board) are neo-con war-mongering shitheads. Rather than waiting to see the impact on the deal on negotiations with Russia and China, they declare defeat and decide that war is the only real option. They're disgusting pukes. Stop taking them seriously.
 
The authors (the WSJ editorial board) are neo-con war-mongering shitheads. Rather than waiting to see the impact on the deal on negotiations with Russia and China, they declare defeat and decide that war is the only real option. They're disgusting pukes. Stop taking them seriously.

We get it... you don't like the WSJ editorial board. Bottom line, they reported based on what they knew at the time.

Can you honestly say you would have thought China and Russia would have gotten on board with more sanctions given their constant reluctance in the past and given the gesture (albeit a small one) of the deal by Iran?

Like I stated, I will wait to see what this round of sanctions looks like and whether or not it actually is implemented.
 
The authors (the WSJ editorial board) are neo-con war-mongering shitheads. Rather than waiting to see the impact on the deal on negotiations with Russia and China, they declare defeat and decide that war is the only real option. They're disgusting pukes. Stop taking them seriously.

ALL THREE PRIOR ROUNDS FAILED....geeee, what a stretch to believe the 4th round would also fail....and like i said...we shall see if this actually works
 
We get it... you don't like the WSJ editorial board. Bottom line, they reported based on what they knew at the time.

Can you honestly say you would have thought China and Russia would have gotten on board with more sanctions given their constant reluctance in the past and given the gesture (albeit a small one) of the deal by Iran?

Like I stated, I will wait to see what this round of sanctions looks like and whether or not it actually is implemented.


I can honestly say that only idiot puke war-mongering shitheads like the WSJ editorial board and their fellow neo-con travelers immediately jump to the conclusion that because the deal was reached, negotiations with Russia and China are pointless, Obama's months of effort were all for naught and that Israel will have to seriously consider blowing shit up.
 
It is success. Getting Russia and China on board with the new sanctions regime is a diplomatic success, particularly considering the Iranians tried to undercut those efforts by reaching the deal with Turkey and Brazil.

really...its a success? it has worked and the agreement ratified by all parties? like i said, there is no success YET

if the agreement gets ratified and works, then there is success
 
Yes, actually, the sanctions worked well to achieve their desired purpose. Iraq had no WMD, remember?

Jackass.

so you want the same sanctions on iran? and no, the sanctions didn't work you dumbass....all it did was fill saddam's coffers

if we want iran to comply, then we have to offer them something or else it is in fact goign to take military action....and why is it we are allowed nuclear weapons but iran is not?
 
so you want the same sanctions on iran? and no, the sanctions didn't work you dumbass....all it did was fill saddam's coffers

if we want iran to comply, then we have to offer them something or else it is in fact goign to take military action....and why is it we are allowed nuclear weapons but iran is not?

Sanctions did work in Iraq, Yurtsie. Saddam did NOT have WMD's; that was the main point, ya know.

And you're still avoiding the question - are you advocating forgoing further sanctions, and jumping right to military intervention?
 
who is Yurtsie? onceler keeps talking to some imaginary person...i know he has issues, but good lord, talking to an imaginary person repeatedly on a messageboard....get help
 
so you want the same sanctions on iran? and no, the sanctions didn't work you dumbass....all it did was fill saddam's coffers

The purpose of the sanctions was to ensure that Iraq didn't have any WMD. And Iraq didn't have any WMD. They worked to achieve their purpose, although they were less than perfect.
 
who is Yurtsie? onceler keeps talking to some imaginary person...i know he has issues, but good lord, talking to an imaginary person repeatedly on a messageboard....get help

Hahahaha - no alternative to what Hillary & Obama are doing. Just criticism.

Figured, Yurtsie.
 
The purpose of the sanctions was to ensure that Iraq didn't have any WMD. And Iraq didn't have any WMD. They worked to achieve their purpose, although they were less than perfect.

you don't know if he had them while the inspectors were out....we still don't know if they weren't moved out of country before the invasion...fact is they apparently weren't there by the time we go there...

why is it we are allowed nukes and they are not? there is no agreement to end a war with them like we had with iraq, so comparing the two is utterly retarded...iraq was a completely different situation, they capitulated because of military action, the sanctions existed because of military action

its embarrassing to watch you fail like this nigel
 
"you don't know if he had them while the inspectors were out....we still don't know if they weren't moved out of country before the invasion...fact is they apparently weren't there by the time we go there..."

Ah, yes - the ol' "The UN must have failed and Bush had to be right because there was a remote chance the WMD's were moved before invasion" apologism.

There is always some spin...
 
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