Biden’s term of anarchy left Democrats with a whole lot to answer for

[T. A. Gardner]

Things that pulled us out of Trump’s Covid debacle, gave us the first infrastructure bill since Ike, and passed the game changing Chips Acts, which might now be kneecapped now with Trump promising to move chip making to the Middle East

Biden did nothing to fix the Chinese Disease situation. It largely fixed itself simply by reopening the economy and ending the utter nonsense of masks, social distancing, and other similar stupidity. The infrastructure bill was nothing but wasteful spending or nonsense. The Chips Act was a giveaway that the industry didn't need.

Chip making isn't moving to the Middle East. The only nation there with the capacity and civilian population that could manage it is Israel and they already make chips.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I’m going to start doing a little survey here at JPP.
Forget about Trump and Biden, both of whom have and had serious faults (IMO).
I’d be interested in knowing what Republican president and what Democrat president were your favorite in your lifetime.
If there was no Republican you can give that as an answer.
This should be interesting.

Okay...

Republican: Eisenhower. The US was a world powerhouse at the time and Eisenhower handled things well both in foreign affairs and domestically.

Democrat: Clinton. As a person, Bill Clinton was as vile as they come, but that doesn't matter much when you're president. As a President he was politically savvy enough to know which way the political wind was blowing and go with it. He did a 180 on policy when the Republicans took Congress and was sharp enough to work with them in compromise to really get some shit done. He didn't fuck away foreign policy even if he was weak on that area, unlike say, LBJ who got us into Vietnam, Biden and Obama fucking foreign policy totally away.
He also was singularly, the only Democrat President in my lifetime to not make huge social / welfare spending increases during his term.

 

[anonymoose]

Okay...

Republican: Eisenhower. The US was a world powerhouse at the time and Eisenhower handled things well both in foreign affairs and domestically.

Democrat: Clinton. As a person, Bill Clinton was as vile as they come, but that doesn't matter much when you're president. As a President he was politically savvy enough to know which way the political wind was blowing and go with it. He did a 180 on policy when the Republicans took Congress and was sharp enough to work with them in compromise to really get some shit done. He didn't fuck away foreign policy even if he was weak on that area, unlike say, LBJ who got us into Vietnam, Biden and Obama fucking foreign policy totally away.
He also was singularly, the only Democrat President in my lifetime to not make huge social / welfare spending increases during his term.

I’m with you on Clinton , 100%.
I was too young to have an opinion about Ike but I’ve heard nothing but good stuff about him.

 

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Biden did nothing to fix the Chinese Disease situation. It largely fixed itself simply by reopening the economy and ending the utter nonsense of masks, social distancing, and other similar stupidity. The infrastructure bill was nothing but wasteful spending or nonsense. The Chips Act was a giveaway that the industry didn't need.

Chip making isn't moving to the Middle East. The only nation there with the capacity and civilian population that could manage it is Israel and they already make chips.

Wrong, for beginners, Biden immediately used the Defense Production Act to boost the production of vaccines, their distribution, and quick availability to all Americans, something Trump refused to do, must be you forgot Trumo’s debacle over testing where Governors had to even look overseas to obtain supplies

As said, infrastructure bill was the first major project passed to address America’s failing infrastructure, a dream attempted by every President but unable to achieve going back to Ike. Today nearly every State has some project under work

And the Chip Act again was the first effort to bring valuable chip making back to the US, currently, American companies are building now multi plants in Arizona, Ohio, Texas, Idaho, and New York, all made possible by the Chips Act

Along these accomplishments will advance Biden’s rank in history

 

[LurchAddams]

I’m going to start doing a little survey here at JPP.
Forget about Trump and Biden, both of whom have and had serious faults (IMO).
I’d be interested in knowing what Republican president and what Democrat president were your favorite in your lifetime.
If there was no Republican you can give that as an answer.
This should be interesting.

That's not the subject of this thread. Start a thread on that and I'll participate. I stand by what I said - America and the world would be in much better shape today had Biden won in 2024.

 

[anonymoose]

That's not the subject of this thread. Start a thread on that and I'll participate.

I just did.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Wrong, for beginners, Biden immediately used the Defense Production Act to boost the production of vaccines, their distribution, and quick availability to all Americans, something Trump refused to do, must be you forgot Trumo’s debacle over testing where Governors had to even look overseas to obtain supplies

Vaccine production was already well underway prior to Biden taking office. His actions on that did nothing to increase the supply or use of them. In fact, his one clear action on this was trying to force everyone to be vaccinated and that ended in disaster.

As said, infrastructure bill was the first major project passed to address America’s failing infrastructure, a dream attempted by every President but unable to achieve going back to Ike. Today nearly every State has some project under work

The infrastructure bill was a waste of money and little else. First and foremost, only about a quarter of the money in it went to infrastructure. Then, of that money, about three quarters went into useless and failed "Green" projects like EV recharging stations where just a dozen or so actually ended up being built.

Amtrak--a favorite of Biden's--got $50 to prop it up because it loses so much money every year in operation.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/568608-10-reasons-to-hate-the-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill/

Via Reason: Biden's Infrastructure Bills Leave a Legacy of Big Spending and Little Payoff | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/15/nx-s1-5192915/infrastructure-law-biden-no-political-benefit

It wasn't like Eisenhower's push to build the interstate highway system. That paid off hugely. Even Obama's disastrous infrastructure bill wasn't as bad as Biden's.

And the Chip Act again was the first effort to bring valuable chip making back to the US, currently, American companies are building now multi plants in Arizona, Ohio, Texas, Idaho, and New York, all made possible by the Chips Act

It hasn't. Intel is laying off and the Ohio plant Biden touted isn't getting finished anytime soon

With delays and impending layoffs, what is the future of Intel's chip plant?

Intel's chip plant in Ohio faces a new delay, now expected to open in 2031, amid reports of workforce layoffs.

www.wkyc.com

Meanwhile, TSMC in Phoenix is being built almost entirely on cash from that corporation out of Taiwan and not Biden's credit card.

If anything, the $52 billion in that act was a total waste of money.

https://thehill.com/opinion/4517470-dei-killed-the-chips-act/

Who benefitted from the CHIPS Act?

Semiconductors are expensive.

www.theverge.com

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/02/biden-tech-chips-achievement-losing-support-00186851

Along these accomplishments will advance Biden’s rank in history

Biden will be remembered as a failed, one-term, president who fucked things away. If anything, he's competing with Carter for being the worst post-WW 2 president in history, and one of the worst presidents ever. His likely long-term historical note will be his not actually being president but rather a figurehead while the country was run into the ground by staff members and others in his inner circle. That disgrace will be the one that gets remembered.

 

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Vaccine production was already well underway prior to Biden taking office. His actions on that did nothing to increase the supply or use of them. In fact, his one clear action on this was trying to force everyone to be vaccinated and that ended in disaster.


The infrastructure bill was a waste of money and little else. First and foremost, only about a quarter of the money in it went to infrastructure. Then, of that money, about three quarters went into useless and failed "Green" projects like EV recharging stations where just a dozen or so actually ended up being built.

Amtrak--a favorite of Biden's--got $50 to prop it up because it loses so much money every year in operation.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/568608-10-reasons-to-hate-the-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill/

Via Reason: Biden's Infrastructure Bills Leave a Legacy of Big Spending and Little Payoff | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/15/nx-s1-5192915/infrastructure-law-biden-no-political-benefit

It wasn't like Eisenhower's push to build the interstate highway system. That paid off hugely. Even Obama's disastrous infrastructure bill wasn't as bad as Biden's.


It hasn't. Intel is laying off and the Ohio plant Biden touted isn't getting finished anytime soon

With delays and impending layoffs, what is the future of Intel's chip plant?

Intel's chip plant in Ohio faces a new delay, now expected to open in 2031, amid reports of workforce layoffs.

www.wkyc.com

Meanwhile, TSMC in Phoenix is being built almost entirely on cash from that corporation out of Taiwan and not Biden's credit card.

If anything, the $52 billion in that act was a total waste of money.

https://thehill.com/opinion/4517470-dei-killed-the-chips-act/

Who benefitted from the CHIPS Act?

Semiconductors are expensive.

www.theverge.com

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/02/biden-tech-chips-achievement-losing-support-00186851

Biden will be remembered as a failed, one-term, president who fucked things away. If anything, he's competing with Carter for being the worst post-WW 2 president in history, and one of the worst presidents ever. His likely long-term historical note will be his not actually being president but rather a figurehead while the country was run into the ground by staff members and others in his inner circle. That disgrace will be the one that gets remembered.

That is not true, in fact, in January Trump didn’t even have enough vaccine to vaccinate his employees even though he said there millions of doses ready. As noted, Trump refused to employ the Defense Production Act, which Biden did the week he took office. Appears you are purposely forgetting the testing debacle under Trump, the vaccine would have been just as bad I’d not worse

The “word on the street” and a GOP House Committee Report? That’s your proof? Did you think a GOP House Committee was going to release an objective opinion? And the NPR article is commenting on the lack of political gain Biden received from the bill, not the progress attained from the bill, and the Hill “opinion” piece was written when the bill was still in Congress

US infrastructure improved with Biden-era spending but there's a long way to go

The American Society of Civil Engineers said that the state of U.S. infrastructure had improved, though just a little.

apnews.com

Obama didn’t have an infrastructure bill, nor did any President since Ike

As the Hill article points out, and which I implied, chip progress is being slowed by Trump, he talks the America First theme, but favors foreign interests continue to lead the way. Similarly the Politico source isn’t commenting on the programs but rather the slow progress due to additional concerns largely environmental. Did you read the sources you included?

And finally, you are wrong again, historians have already ranked Biden upper middle, personally I’d give him a C+, his greatest error is letting his obstinateness lead to the election of Trump. And it is hardly surprising anyone in the Red Hat Club would think he was the worst President ever, like Obama/Hillary before, Biden is Trump’s latest scapegoats for his fuck ups

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That is not true, in fact, in January Trump didn’t even have enough vaccine to vaccinate his employees even though he said there millions of doses ready. As noted, Trump refused to employ the Defense Production Act, which Biden did the week he took office. Appears you are purposely forgetting the testing debacle under Trump, the vaccine would have been just as bad I’d not worse

The “word on the street” and a GOP House Committee Report? That’s your proof? Did you think a GOP House Committee was going to release an objective opinion? And the NPR article is commenting on the lack of political gain Biden received from the bill, not the progress attained from the bill, and the Hill “opinion” piece was written when the bill was still in Congress

US infrastructure improved with Biden-era spending but there's a long way to go

The American Society of Civil Engineers said that the state of U.S. infrastructure had improved, though just a little.

apnews.com

Obama didn’t have an infrastructure bill, nor did any President since Ike

As the Hill article points out, and which I implied, chip progress is being slowed by Trump, he talks the America First theme, but favors foreign interests continue to lead the way. Similarly the Politico source isn’t commenting on the programs but rather the slow progress due to additional concerns largely environmental. Did you read the sources you included?

And finally, you are wrong again, historians have already ranked Biden upper middle, personally I’d give him a C+, his greatest error is letting his obstinateness lead to the election of Trump. And it is hardly surprising anyone in the Red Hat Club would think he was the worst President ever, like Obama/Hillary before, Biden is Trump’s latest scapegoats for his fuck ups

Obama's "shovel ready" infrastructure act:

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It didn't work either. For that matter, neither did FDR's attempts to use tax money for almost random infrastructure and make-work programs.

Actually, TSMC--as but one example has greatly increased their investment in US plants since Trump took office.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tsmc-ceo-meet-with-trump-tout-investment-plans-2025-03-03/

Chipmaker TSMC Increases US Investment, Trump Says - TT

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. plans to invest $100 billion in the United States, President Donald Trump said, on top of $65 billion in investments the company has already promised.

www.ttnews.com

Historians ranking of presidents is full of shit. One of the fuller of shit ones is the Sennia College rankings.

You can scroll down to the table for it.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For example, they (all these polls do) rank Benjaman Harrison in their rankings. Harrison was in office for just a month, 30 days, when he died. He has NO, ZERO, track record as a president. His ratings should be "Not observed." That's just one of their absurdities of hundreds I could point out.

 

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Obama's "shovel ready" infrastructure act:

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It didn't work either. For that matter, neither did FDR's attempts to use tax money for almost random infrastructure and make-work programs.

Actually, TSMC--as but one example has greatly increased their investment in US plants since Trump took office.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tsmc-ceo-meet-with-trump-tout-investment-plans-2025-03-03/

Chipmaker TSMC Increases US Investment, Trump Says - TT

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. plans to invest $100 billion in the United States, President Donald Trump said, on top of $65 billion in investments the company has already promised.

www.ttnews.com

Historians ranking of presidents is full of shit. One of the fuller of shit ones is the Sennia College rankings.

You can scroll down to the table for it.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For example, they (all these polls do) rank Benjaman Harrison in their rankings. Harrison was in office for just a month, 30 days, when he died. He has NO, ZERO, track record as a president. His ratings should be "Not observed." That's just one of their absurdities of hundreds I could point out.

Was not a infrastructure bill, its goal was to inject money into an economy suffering from a historical recession

“Developed in response to the Great Recession, the primary objective of this federal statute was to save existing jobs and create new ones as soon as possible. Other objectives were to provide temporary relief programs for those most affected by the recession and invest in infrastructure, education, health, and renewable energy.“

Exactly, a foreign entity, and Trump has a lot of “plans” and “promises”

Benjamin Harrison was President for four years, you are thinking of William Henry Harrison, who falls close to the bottom of rankings, he didn’t do anything, but he didn’t fuck up either

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Was not a infrastructure bill, its goal was to inject money into an economy suffering from a historical recession

“Developed in response to the Great Recession, the primary objective of this federal statute was to save existing jobs and create new ones as soon as possible. Other objectives were to provide temporary relief programs for those most affected by the recession and invest in infrastructure, education, health, and renewable energy.“

Exactly, a foreign entity, and Trump has a lot of “plans” and “promises”

Benjamin Harrison was President for four years, you are thinking of William Henry Harrison, who falls close to the bottom of rankings, he didn’t do anything, but he didn’t fuck up either

Sorry on the name Harrison. William Harrison was in office 30 days, and for most of that was bedridden with pneumonia. He has NO, ZERO, record as president. He shouldn't even be evaluated as there is no record to evaluate.

Obama's bill was touted as "shovel ready" and focused--at least in theory--on infrastructure. The worst of it other than pork and political nonsense was anything and everything "green." Green means "Doesn't work and wastes money."

 

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Sorry on the name Harrison. William Harrison was in office 30 days, and for most of that was bedridden with pneumonia. He has NO, ZERO, record as president. He shouldn't even be evaluated as there is no record to evaluate.

Obama's bill was touted as "shovel ready" and focused--at least in theory--on infrastructure. The worst of it other than pork and political nonsense was anything and everything "green." Green means "Doesn't work and wastes money."

The criteria:

C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021

www.c-span.org

Was not an infrastructure bill, including infrastructure, but not it’s primary purpose

 

[Truth Detector]

That’s original

I wish you were original and could have a coherent intelligent comment.

 

[Truth Detector]

Had Biden made it through the campaign and got elected he would have:

1. Put people in positions qualified to do the job - for example - Biden would NOT have tried to confirm Matt Gaetz to be Sec Def.
2. His cancer would be diagnosed about now. He'd have to step down, putting Kamala in charge.

The world would be a safer, better, less corrupt place right now had Biden won in 2024.

Dumbest post I've read today.

 

[Truth Detector]

Things that pulled us out of Trump’s Covid debacle, gave us the first infrastructure bill since Ike, and passed the game changing Chips Acts, which might now be kneecapped now with Trump promising to move chip making to the Middle East

None of that stupid massive debt increasing legislation did anything for anyone. It was a grifting operation much like everything Democrats do to cling to political power.

But hey, idiots do believe that Biden was awesome. They were even more retarded by voting for Kamala.

 

[Truth Detector]

That is not true, in fact, in January Trump didn’t even have enough vaccine to vaccinate his employees even though he said there millions of doses ready. As noted, Trump refused to employ the Defense Production Act, which Biden did the week he took office. Appears you are purposely forgetting the testing debacle under Trump, the vaccine would have been just as bad I’d not worse

The “word on the street” and a GOP House Committee Report? That’s your proof? Did you think a GOP House Committee was going to release an objective opinion? And the NPR article is commenting on the lack of political gain Biden received from the bill, not the progress attained from the bill, and the Hill “opinion” piece was written when the bill was still in Congress

US infrastructure improved with Biden-era spending but there's a long way to go

The American Society of Civil Engineers said that the state of U.S. infrastructure had improved, though just a little.

apnews.com

Obama didn’t have an infrastructure bill, nor did any President since Ike

As the Hill article points out, and which I implied, chip progress is being slowed by Trump, he talks the America First theme, but favors foreign interests continue to lead the way. Similarly the Politico source isn’t commenting on the programs but rather the slow progress due to additional concerns largely environmental. Did you read the sources you included?

And finally, you are wrong again, historians have already ranked Biden upper middle, personally I’d give him a C+, his greatest error is letting his obstinateness lead to the election of Trump. And it is hardly surprising anyone in the Red Hat Club would think he was the worst President ever, like Obama/Hillary before, Biden is Trump’s latest scapegoats for his fuck ups

You just make up your stupid bullshit as you go don't you? This is why I don't argue with dishonest lying leftist morons. It's better to just point at them and laugh.

 

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You just make up your stupid bullshit as you go don't you? This is why I don't argue with dishonest lying leftist morons. It's better to just point at them and laugh.

It’s documented pal, and since you can not invalidate anything I claimed, and have nothing to offer but stupid adolescent insults, adios

 

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None of that stupid massive debt increasing legislation did anything for anyone. It was a grifting operation much like everything Democrats do to cling to political power.

But hey, idiots do believe that Biden was awesome. They were even more retarded by voting for Kamala.

NEXT

 

[Into the Night]

Biden’s term of anarchy left Democrats with a whole lot to answer for​

Somewhere between 10 million and 12 million illegal aliens were invited into the United States by the Biden administration.

As far as logistics go, former President Joe Biden could not flee Afghanistan without getting 13 Marines killed and abandoning to the terrorist Taliban $50 billion in munitions, a billion-dollar embassy and a $300 million retrofitted huge airbase.

But Biden and his handlers proved far more logistically capable when their target was fellow Americans.

After all, they somehow managed to stop the congressionally approved continuance of the border wall, subvert federal immigration law, emasculate the border patrol and ensure that millions of people around the world could simply walk into the US illegally, unaudited and with impunity.

But why did Biden or his puppeteers do something so anarchic, so injurious to their fellow Americans?

Why cost the nation hundreds of billions of dollars in massive new entitlements? Why swamp the social services of our own poor citizens?

Why turn loose half a million criminal aliens and gang members to prey on our own weak and defenseless?

Was the idea to alter the demography in one fell swoop? To grow the dependent class, thereby expanding government?

Was it pure spite born of hatred of half the country?

Was it to ensure future constituencies, given that the Democratic agenda no longer appeals to most Americans?

Was it a globalist gambit to demonstrate borders are anachronistic?

Was it to fast-track new voters under the laxity of post-2020 early- and mail-in voting protocols?

Those who perpetrated the greatest ruse in American presidential history by staging the Biden presidency will never tell us what their ultimate agenda was.

They knowingly fixed the 2020 primaries to ensure a non-compos-Biden would be nominated.

Under the cover of the COVID lockdowns, they kept him in his basement while operatives radically altered the voting laws in the key swing states.

For the next four years, they put their waxen effigy in a hermetically sealed cocoon — one of avoidance of the press, three-day workweeks and four-hour workdays.

Yet Biden could still not read huge-font, teleprompted scripts. He could not finish a simple call for unity without snarling, screaming and damning his opposition as “semi-fascists,” “ultra-MAGA” and “garbage.”

Was the point to salvage the Democratic Party for one last hurrah before the Squad and the Sanders socialists inevitably took over and destroyed it?

Was that the idea behind clearing the primary field and anointing a decrepit “good ol’ Joe Biden from Scranton” veneer?

Or was it more sinister still in the sense that a debilitated Biden façade was a godsend for the left?

Did his pseudo-centrist cover ensure that his handlers — the Obama crowd, the DEI chauvinists and the Sanders socialists — could enact from the shadows the most radical agenda since 1933?

Will anyone ever tell us why they endangered and nearly ruined the country with a zombie president?

Why did the left break every prior pretense of legality and fair play in trying to wreck an entire legal system just to destroy Donald Trump?

Why did the so-called stewards of jurisprudence coordinate four local, state and federal prosecutions to cook up 93 indictments — the vast majority of them ridiculous contortions that will never be charged against any other American?

What was behind the disastrous effort to de-ballot Trump in most of the blue states? To “save” democracy by destroying it?

Why did they twice impeach a president and then try him as a private citizen?

Why did SWAT teams swarm an ex-president’s home to carry off over 10,000 documents in order to find 102 classified files?

Why did the FBI bring their own pre-prepared classification labels? Why scatter photo files on the floor?

Had Trump destroyed subpoenaed evidence like Hillary Clinton’s emails?

Had Trump stored the files, Biden-style, at four different locations?

Had Trump earlier just flunked rather than aced the Montreal Cognitive Assessment, would special counsel Jack Smith — as did Robert Hur in the Biden file case — have dropped all the charges against Trump on the grounds he was “an elderly man with a poor memory?”

So what was behind the four years of trying to blow up and discredit our legal and law-enforcement system just to destroy Trump?

Was their goad his accent, his bombast or his tan that so drove the elite left into insanity?

Were they convinced they could never beat him in another election?

Did they hate him because, in his first term, he had secured the border, grown the economy and had no wars abroad?

Or was it an unstoppable fixation, a destructive addiction?

In sum, the more he mocked them, the more they sought to destroy him — and all the more they ensured he would be president again.

Biden’s term of anarchy left Democrats with a whole lot to answer for

Those who perpetrated the greatest ruse in American presidential history by staging the Biden presidency will never tell us what their ultimate agenda was.

nypost.com

It wasn't anarchy. It was oligarchy.

 

[Into the Night]

I am too stupid to realize that Biden is truly demented.

FTFY