Small plane crashes into Philadelphia Mall....

The plane was clearly coming apart from some sort of mid-flight explosion, or maybe it got hit by a bird or a drone, but I'm hearing that's unlikely for various reasons. Could've been a catastrophic engine failure too. There are some spectators throwing around ideas like it was a bomb or a shoulder-mounted rocket. I mean, a bomb seems more plausible than a rocket, but still...

I'm wondering, and I haven't heard anyone mention this, but what about the possibility that an oxygen or nitrous gas tank used for medical care on board might have exploded after an unnoticed leak was happening for an unknown amount of time and some kind of electrical failure provided the spark? It's a stretch at best, so I asked Grok for a plausible scenario, searching for a cause.

Here's what I got:


Plausible Scenario:

An oxygen leak develops from a tank or connection used for a patient on a medical transport plane while doctors are actively monitoring and working on the patient. The leak goes unnoticed in the busy medical environment, leading to an increase in oxygen concentration. An electrical malfunction, such as a spark from a short circuit in medical or aircraft equipment, ignites flammable materials within this oxygen-rich environment. The fire, fueled by the extra oxygen, spreads quickly in the confined space of the aircraft, leading to an explosion due to pressure build-up or secondary gas ignition.

Estimated Minimum Time for Explosion to Occur:

Leak Detection Time: The leak might go unnoticed for several minutes, especially if doctors are focused on the patient. Let's estimate 5-10 minutes for the leak to become significant enough to increase oxygen levels noticeably.

Oxygen Buildup: Assuming a small but continuous leak, it could take another 5-15 minutes for the oxygen concentration to reach a level where combustion becomes significantly more likely than in normal air.

Ignition: An electrical fault could happen at any time but let's conservatively estimate 1-5 minutes from when the environment becomes dangerously oxygen-rich for an ignition source to occur, especially if equipment is in constant use.

Fire Spread: Once ignited, the fire could spread very quickly in an oxygen-rich environment, leading to an explosion in as little as 1-3 minutes due to the rapid combustion, heat, and pressure build-up.

I think I heard the plane was only flying for about 30 seconds, but that might have been an exaggerated estimate without actual data.
 
AProudLefty said:
Let's ask @Diogenes' master, Grok.

Grok, who started DEI?

Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives have evolved over many years, with contributions from numerous individuals and organizations across various sectors. Here's a brief overview:

  1. Historical Context: The roots of DEI can be traced back to the civil rights movements in the United States during the mid-20th century, where efforts were made to address racial, gender, and other forms of discrimination.
  2. Legislation and Policy:
    • 1964 Civil Rights Act: This was pivotal in establishing legal frameworks for equality in employment, which can be considered foundational for DEI.
    • Affirmative Action: Policies in the 1960s and 1970s aimed at correcting historical inequalities in employment and education.
  3. Corporate and Academic Influence:
  4. Modern Evolution:
  5. Global Influence: DEI principles have been adapted and implemented in various forms around the world, influenced by local cultures, laws, and social movements.

Therefore, while it's not accurate to attribute the start of DEI to one individual, these movements and policies have collectively shaped what we now recognize as DEI initiatives. The concept has grown from addressing explicit discrimination to encompassing broader, systemic approaches to inclusion and equity across societies
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In 2021, Joe Biden signed several executive orders concerning DEI, including Executive Order 13985 and Executive Order 14035.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion#cite_note-c811-28"><span>[</span>28<span>]</span></a>
 
Tobytone said:
The plane was clearly coming apart from some sort of mid-flight explosion, or maybe it got hit by a bird or a drone, but I'm hearing that's unlikely for various reasons. Could've been a catastrophic engine failure too. There are some spectators throwing around ideas like it was a bomb or a shoulder-mounted rocket. I mean, a bomb seems more plausible than a rocket, but still...

I'm wondering, and I haven't heard anyone mention this, but what about the possibility that an oxygen or nitrous gas tank used for medical care on board might have exploded after an unnoticed leak was happening for an unknown amount of time and some kind of electrical failure provided the spark? It's a stretch at best, so I asked Grok for a plausible scenario, searching for a cause.

Here's what I got:


Plausible Scenario:

An oxygen leak develops from a tank or connection used for a patient on a medical transport plane while doctors are actively monitoring and working on the patient. The leak goes unnoticed in the busy medical environment, leading to an increase in oxygen concentration. An electrical malfunction, such as a spark from a short circuit in medical or aircraft equipment, ignites flammable materials within this oxygen-rich environment. The fire, fueled by the extra oxygen, spreads quickly in the confined space of the aircraft, leading to an explosion due to pressure build-up or secondary gas ignition.

Estimated Minimum Time for Explosion to Occur:

Leak Detection Time: The leak might go unnoticed for several minutes, especially if doctors are focused on the patient. Let's estimate 5-10 minutes for the leak to become significant enough to increase oxygen levels noticeably.

Oxygen Buildup: Assuming a small but continuous leak, it could take another 5-15 minutes for the oxygen concentration to reach a level where combustion becomes significantly more likely than in normal air.

Ignition: An electrical fault could happen at any time but let's conservatively estimate 1-5 minutes from when the environment becomes dangerously oxygen-rich for an ignition source to occur, especially if equipment is in constant use.

Fire Spread: Once ignited, the fire could spread very quickly in an oxygen-rich environment, leading to an explosion in as little as 1-3 minutes due to the rapid combustion, heat, and pressure build-up.

I think I heard the plane was only flying for about 30 seconds, but that might have been an exaggerated estimate without actual data.
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Certainly feasible.

I suspect a rare catastrophic turbine blade failure due to old undetected microfractures. I think this jet was 30 years old.
 
Bigdog said:
Certainly feasible.

I suspect a rare catastrophic turbine blade failure due to old undetected microfractures. I think this jet was 30 years old.
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I literally hit post as Alexis McAdams suggests the oxygen tank theory. I'm about 7 minutes behind from pausing the show a couple of times. so her comments are about 37 minutes into Primetime.

Your theory is more likely. Grok's idea was from me essentially directing it to generate that scenario based on my 'long shot' theory. More to see what Grok would say than what I actually think happened, which honestly, I don't really have a best guess yet.
 
Tobytone said:
I literally hit post as Alexis McAdams suggests the oxygen tank theory. I'm about 7 minutes behind from pausing the show a couple of times. so her comments are about 37 minutes into Primetime.

Your theory is more likely. Grok's idea was from me essentially directing it to generate that scenario based on my 'long shot' theory. More to see what Grok would say than what I actually think happened, which honestly, I don't really have a best guess yet.
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I've watched a lot of "Air disaster" TV episodes ... and I stayed at a Holiday Inn.
 
AProudLefty said:
Ending diversity is racist. :dunno:
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Alright, time to peel back the facade of your libtard drone superiority, you sanctimonious piece of shit. You and your hive of drones claim to be the paragons of virtue, but you're the real racists here, hiding behind the hollow shell of a word you've butchered beyond recognition: DIVERSITY.

Let's break it down for your tiny, racist brain: How do you enforce quotas based on melanin levels without obsessing over skin color? You can't. You're literally the epitome of what you accuse others of being. You've turned the concept of hiring into a skin color pageant, where you tally up melanin like points on a scoreboard.

Explain to me, genius, how advocating against this skin-deep stupidity makes me the racist? You won't because you can't. Because deep down, you know you're the real bigot. You think it's perfectly fine to set arbitrary quotas for how many people of different skin tones should be employed in federal jobs, universities, or anywhere else. You can't even consider someone for a job without first checking their pigmentation chart.

You're not just a racist, you're a fool, a clown masquerading in moral drag, all while perpetuating the very discrimination you claim to fight. Keep patting yourself on the back while you're actually just painting yourself into a corner of bigotry. RACIST MORON.
 
Tobytone said:
Alright, time to peel back the facade of your libtard drone superiority, you sanctimonious piece of shit. You and your hive of drones claim to be the paragons of virtue, but you're the real racists here, hiding behind the hollow shell of a word you've butchered beyond recognition: DIVERSITY.

Let's break it down for your tiny, racist brain: How do you enforce quotas based on melanin levels without obsessing over skin color? You can't. You're literally the epitome of what you accuse others of being. You've turned the concept of hiring into a skin color pageant, where you tally up melanin like points on a scoreboard.

Explain to me, genius, how advocating against this skin-deep stupidity makes me the racist? You won't because you can't. Because deep down, you know you're the real bigot. You think it's perfectly fine to set arbitrary quotas for how many people of different skin tones should be employed in federal jobs, universities, or anywhere else. You can't even consider someone for a job without first checking their pigmentation chart.

You're not just a racist, you're a fool, a clown masquerading in moral drag, all while perpetuating the very discrimination you claim to fight. Keep patting yourself on the back while you're actually just painting yourself into a corner of bigotry. RACIST MORON.
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Is that your denial of being a raging racist somehow? I guess I did make it clear, you're not just racist, but it worse, you're a complete and utter moron, as well.

When I'm called a racist, because I know I'm not, and why, I can defend myself. You, I guess you go looking for supportive memes from other racist morons. That's one way to go, I guess. RACIST
 
Tobytone said:
Is that your denial of being a raging racist somehow? I guess I did make it clear, you're not just racist, but it worse, you're a complete and utter moron, as well.

When I'm called a racist, because I know I'm not, and why, I can defend myself. You, I guess you go looking for supportive memes from other racist morons. That's one way to go, I guess. RACIST
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You're the one who cheered on ending diversity.
 
AProudLefty said:
You're the one who cheered on ending diversity.
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Your like a simulation with corrupted data that just spits out repeated bullshit over and over and over.

This error occurs when your stupidity and racist nature is exposed.

I just got done proving beyond a doubt that you are a raging racist and all you can do it repeat the line:
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO CHEERS ENDING DIVERSITY (RACISM, is what diversity means to a libtard)
 
Tobytone said:
Your like a simulation with corrupted data that just spits out repeated bullshit over and over and over.

This error occurs when your stupidity and racist nature is exposed.

I just got done proving beyond a doubt that you are a raging racist and all you can do it repeat the line:
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO CHEERS ENDING DIVERSITY (RACISM, is what diversity means to a libtard)
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I'm the one who wants minorities to have equal opportunities and I am called a racist?

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Bigdog said:

The FAA Is Being Sued For Throwing Out Air Traffic ...​


Simple Flying
https://simpleflying.com › Aviation News

Apr 28, 2024 — Summary · Lawsuit uncovered FAA discrimination in hiring, rejecting over 1,000 qualified air traffic controller applicants based on race.
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Why didn't Trump fix that in his first term?

Unlike Traitor Trump's lies, all the applicants hire were qualified and competent.

The lawsuit doesn’t allege incompetent controllers were hired instead of CTI graduates. Instead, it states that the CTI graduates weren’t given the opportunity to demonstrate their competency.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Why didn't Trump fix that in his first term?

Unlike Traitor Trump's lies, all the applicants hire were qualified and competent.

The lawsuit doesn’t allege incompetent controllers were hired instead of CTI graduates. Instead, it states that the CTI graduates weren’t given the opportunity to demonstrate their competency.
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