Putin kills or wounds ~half a million Russian soldiers to capture less than one percent of Ukrainian territory

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Despite utilizing vast superiority in numbers and armaments, the past twelve months have seen Putin's forces claw back only around 1,609 square miles—chiefly in Donbas, which is a mere 0.69 percent of Ukrainian territory. This territorial expansion has come at an appalling human cost; Ukraine's Ministry of Defence estimates Russia's military casualties last year exceeded 430,000, despite Putin's forces being bolstered by North Korean troops.

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Walt said:
Putin has not had the major breakout he needs, and there is no reason to believe he will have one in the near future.

At this rate, it will take hundreds of years, and the entire population of the Earth for Putin to win. He has neither.
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The Russians have already won.

American capitation...that is American recognition of the facts.... is only a matter of time.
 
Walt said:
Putin has not had the major breakout he needs, and there is no reason to believe he will have one in the near future.

At this rate, it will take hundreds of years, and the entire population of the Earth for Putin to win. He has neither.
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Half a million Russian casualties to capture one percent of Ukraine - I'm guessing 30 million Russian casualties to capture Kyiv.
 
Cypress said:
I don't know if even Russians are willing to tolerate 30 million casualties and five decades to capture Kyiv.

Putin told them five years ago he could take down Ukraine in two weeks.
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I thought Putin was right at the beginning of the war. It turns out the Ukrainians want independence a lot more than we all thought, and that Russia is far weaker than we all thought.

In the end, war is the ultimate test of reality. I have changed my assumptions about reality due to this war. The alt right has not.
 
Walt said:
I thought Putin was right at the beginning of the war. It turns out the Ukrainians want independence a lot more than we all thought, and that Russia is far weaker than we all thought.

In the end, war is the ultimate test of reality. I have changed my assumptions about reality due to this war. The alt right has not.
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I thought prior to the invasion Ukraine was seriously underestimated. But I did not think the conflict would last five years.

The East Slavic people have a reputation for tenacity when pushed to the wall to defend their home and hearth. They are not like the French, who let the Nazis walk into Paris almost on a whim.
 
Cypress said:
Despite utilizing vast superiority in numbers and armaments, the past twelve months have seen Putin's forces claw back only around 1,609 square miles—chiefly in Donbas, which is a mere 0.69 percent of Ukrainian territory. This territorial expansion has come at an appalling human cost; Ukraine's Ministry of Defence estimates Russia's military casualties last year exceeded 430,000, despite Putin's forces being bolstered by North Korean troops.

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The more Russians Ukrainians send back home in body bags, the sooner this war will end.

Trump is already walking back his claim of ending the war in a day....or anytime soon, for that matter. Just the first of many campaign lies promises he's now walking back.

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Trump Claims He'd 'Fix' Ukraine War In A Day If He Wins Reelection

"I would fix that within 24 hours," the former president said.
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Trump advisers concede Ukraine peace deal is months away​

  • Summary
  • Trump advisers are quietly backing away from the campaign promise to end the war on Day One
  • New extended timeline - months, not days or weeks - recognizes intractability of conflict
  • Putin sending mixed messages about readiness to resolve the conflict
 
Cypress said:
Despite utilizing vast superiority in numbers and armaments, the past twelve months have seen Putin's forces claw back only around 1,609 square miles—chiefly in Donbas, which is a mere 0.69 percent of Ukrainian territory. This territorial expansion has come at an appalling human cost; Ukraine's Ministry of Defence estimates Russia's military casualties last year exceeded 430,000, despite Putin's forces being bolstered by North Korean troops.

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:lolup: Halfwit believes what Ukraine's Ministry of Defense tells him. :laugh:

They can't even spell DEFENSE correctly.

Ukraine's Ministry of {sp}Defence estimates Russia's military casualties last year exceeded 430,000
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The more Russians Ukrainians send back home in body bags, the sooner this war will end.
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I think even Putin knows he can't sustain ten million casualties and five years to capture Kyiv.

Dutch Uncle said:
Trump is already walking back his claim of ending the war in a day....or anytime soon, for that matter. Just the first of many campaign lies promises he's now walking back.
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Everyone except MAGA morons knew Trump was lying his fat ass off about ending the war in a day
 
Cypress said:
I think even Putin knows he can't sustain ten million casualties and five years to capture Kyiv.


Everyone except MAGA morons knew Trump was lying his fat ass off about ending the war in a day
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I keep waiting for Vlad to have an "accident".

MAGA morons lap up whatever Trump spews all over them.
 
Truth Detector said:
:lolup: Halfwit believes what Ukraine's Ministry of Defense tells him. :laugh:

They can't even spell DEFENSE correctly.

Ukraine's Ministry of {sp}Defence estimates Russia's military casualties last year exceeded 430,000
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You are dumb. Defence is the proper British way of spelling it, and the Ukrainian Defence Ministry is probably trained to translate their press releases into British English. Most Europeans are trained in British English.

American and British intelligence puts total Russian casualties near 800,000

So considering 2024 is the bloodiest year of the war, 400k casualties in the last year is in the right ballpark, even if it's at the high end of the ballpark.
 
Cypress said:
Half a million Russian casualties to capture one percent of Ukraine - I'm guessing 30 million Russian casualties to capture Kyiv.
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We'll see if trump comes to his rescue. The most recent sanctions are finally crippling Putin's economy. Many economists are predicting that he will be flat broke by this fall.

I'm guessing he'll get much needed help when trump slashes Ukraine funding.
 
Cypress said:
I thought prior to the invasion Ukraine was seriously underestimated. But I did not think the conflict would last five years.
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You called for an extremely limited 'defense only' posture by Ukraine, citing 'appearances'. I strongly disagreed. This war could have been over already if the Western allies weren't tip toeing around Putin. Look at the gains being made now that Ukraine is using weapons capable of attacking well into Russian territory.

Ukraine's energy infrastructure is an absolute mess due to the West's pussyfooting around.
 
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