BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.

Damocles said:
I think he's going to test the wording of the 14th. We do have a SCOTUS that will rule on it, of that I am certain. I don't see much difference between this and Braindead repeatedly trying to exercise the legislative authority through his executive orders. Well one difference, once they've ruled I think Trump will understand that repeating the experience is futile.
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It might actually fly, at least temporarily. SC(r)OTUS is completely in his pocket at this point.
 
Teflon Don said:
Citation
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The only authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States is the Constitution of the United States.

Nothing in the 14th amendment changes the jurisdiction an illegal immigrant or their so-called 'anchor babies' are subject to. They should be deported back to their jurisdiction (after serving their time here for any convictions or crimes committed in the United States).

The Pretender has no valid citation, and he doesn't understand what 'jurisdiction' means.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Which word in this sentence has a meaning that is not clear?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Persons in the country illegally are persons and are part of all.
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They are not citizens.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Born is pretty clear and has no other possible meanings.
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They are not citizens.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Subject to the jurisdiction thereof has a meaning that can't be changed without making the person exempt from US law.
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Not the meaning of 'jurisdiction'. Go learn English.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Every person that is born in the US that is subject to US laws is a citizen of the US.
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WRONG. They are subject to it's laws, but are NOT necessarily citizens.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
No court can make a valid argument that the Constitution says anything else without completely destroying US law.
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No court has authority over the Constitution.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
On top of that, if you eliminate birthright citizenship you make everyone born in the US to parents or grandparents or ancestors that were not US citizens no longer US citizens since their ancestors were not legal citizens so their birth was not to a US citizen.
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That's right. You've figured it out. Any of them can, of course apply for citizenship.
 
Daylight63 said:
Does it work that way? I don't think you can use an EO to amend the Constitution.

Is this just Trump bloviating out of pure ignorance as per usual?
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Such an EO does not amend the Constitution. It is perfectly legal to deport illegal immigrants and any 'anchor babies' they may have had. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU DESPISE!
 
Daylight63 said:
It doesn't matter. The IMPORTANT first step is to get them into the camps that are being built THEN figure out what to do with them.

Remember: they are likely still BROWN and have an Hispanic surname. So how "American" can they really be?
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You mean the camps that Obama built??
No, twit. They will be deported.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Truly. Fucking moron describes not only Trump, but all of his little MAGAts.
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They have to be, who in the world with half a brain keeps voting against their own best interests?
I wonder how many of them will cry when they get deported because their Mother, Father , Grandmother , Grandfathers or on and on ,were here illegally.
They are a bunch of MAGA fools.
 
Into the Night said:
No, Pretender. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their originating country, UNLESS they legally immigrate AND become citizens of the United States.

Nope. An illegal immigrant is ILLEGAL, and subject to the jurisdiction of the originating country. That's why they will be deported to there.
You are not a lawyer, Pretender.
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Wrong
 
Tbird19482 said:
They have to be, who in the world with half a brain keeps voting against their own best interests?
I wonder how many of them will cry when they get deported because their Mother, Father , Grandmother , Grandfathers or on and on ,were here illegally.
They are a bunch of MAGA fools.
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They are clearly moronic, demented and/or just ignorant.

FWIW, except for a few token deportations, I strongly doubt Trump will carry out his campaign promises anymore than his promise to pardon the Insurrectionists prior to 1/6.
 
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