Yes, we did

It is fitting that Congress passed this historic legislation this week. For as we mark the turning of spring, we also mark a new season in America. In a few moments, when I sign this bill, all of the overheated rhetoric over reform will finally confront the reality of reform.

And while the Senate still has a last round of improvements to make on this historic legislation, and these are improvements I’m confident they will make swiftly, the bill I’m signing will set in motion reforms that generations of Americans have fought for, and marched for, and hungered to see.

It will take four years to implement fully many of these reforms, because we need to implement them responsibly. We need to get this right. But, a host of desperately needed reforms will take effect right away.

This year, we’ll start offering tax credits to about 4 million small businessmen and women to help them cover the cost of insurance for their employees.

That happens this year.

This year, tens of thousands of uninsured Americans with preexisting conditions, the parents of children who have a preexisting condition, will finally be able to purchase the coverage they need.

That happens this year.

This year, insurance companies will no longer be able to drop people’s coverage when they get sick. They won’t be able to place lifetime limits or restrictive annual limits on the amount of care they can receive.

This year, all new insurance plans will be required to offer free preventive care. And this year, young adults will be able to stay on their parents’ policies until they’re 26 years old.

That happens this year.

And this year, seniors who fall in the coverage gap known as the doughnut hole will start getting some help. They’ll receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions, and that will, over time, fill in the doughnut hole, and I want seniors to know, despite what some have said, these reforms will not cut your guaranteed benefits.

In fact, under this law, Americans on Medicare will receive free preventive care without co-payments or deductibles.

That begins this year.

Once this reform is implemented, health insurance exchanges will be created, a competitive marketplace where uninsured people and small businesses will finally be able to purchase affordable, quality insurance.

They will be able to be part of a big pool and get the same good deal that members of Congress get.

That’s what’s going to happen under this reform, and when this exchange is up and running, millions of people will get tax breaks to help them afford coverage, which represents the largest middle-class tax cut for health care in history.

That's what this reform is about.

This legislation will also lower costs for families and for businesses and for the federal government, reducing our deficit by over $1 trillion in the next two decades. It is paid for. It is fiscally responsible and it will help lift a decades-long drag on our economy. That's part of what all of you together worked on and made happen.

That our generation is able to succeed in passing this reform is a testament to the persistence, and the character, of the American people, who championed this cause; who mobilized; who organized; who believed that people who love this country can change it.

It’s also a testament to the historic leadership and uncommon courage of the men and women of the United States Congress, who’ve taken their lumps during this difficult debate.

Today, I’m signing this reform bill into law on behalf of my mother, who argued with insurance companies even as she battled cancer in her final days.

We are a nation that faces its challenges and accepts its responsibilities. We are a nation that does what is hard.

What is necessary. What is right. Here, in this country, we shape our own destiny. That is what we do. That is who we are. That is what makes us the United States of America.
 
It is fitting that Congress passed this historic legislation this week. For as we mark the turning of spring, we also mark a new season in America. In a few moments, when I sign this bill, all of the overheated rhetoric over reform will finally confront the reality of reform.

And while the Senate still has a last round of improvements to make on this historic legislation, and these are improvements I’m confident they will make swiftly, the bill I’m signing will set in motion reforms that generations of Americans have fought for, and marched for, and hungered to see.

It will take four years to implement fully many of these reforms, because we need to implement them responsibly. We need to get this right. But, a host of desperately needed reforms will take effect right away.

This year, we’ll start offering tax credits to about 4 million small businessmen and women to help them cover the cost of insurance for their employees.

That happens this year.

This year, tens of thousands of uninsured Americans with preexisting conditions, the parents of children who have a preexisting condition, will finally be able to purchase the coverage they need.

That happens this year.

This year, insurance companies will no longer be able to drop people’s coverage when they get sick. They won’t be able to place lifetime limits or restrictive annual limits on the amount of care they can receive.

This year, all new insurance plans will be required to offer free preventive care. And this year, young adults will be able to stay on their parents’ policies until they’re 26 years old.

That happens this year.

And this year, seniors who fall in the coverage gap known as the doughnut hole will start getting some help. They’ll receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions, and that will, over time, fill in the doughnut hole, and I want seniors to know, despite what some have said, these reforms will not cut your guaranteed benefits.

In fact, under this law, Americans on Medicare will receive free preventive care without co-payments or deductibles.

That begins this year.

Once this reform is implemented, health insurance exchanges will be created, a competitive marketplace where uninsured people and small businesses will finally be able to purchase affordable, quality insurance.

They will be able to be part of a big pool and get the same good deal that members of Congress get.

That’s what’s going to happen under this reform, and when this exchange is up and running, millions of people will get tax breaks to help them afford coverage, which represents the largest middle-class tax cut for health care in history.

That's what this reform is about.

This legislation will also lower costs for families and for businesses and for the federal government, reducing our deficit by over $1 trillion in the next two decades. It is paid for. It is fiscally responsible and it will help lift a decades-long drag on our economy. That's part of what all of you together worked on and made happen.

That our generation is able to succeed in passing this reform is a testament to the persistence, and the character, of the American people, who championed this cause; who mobilized; who organized; who believed that people who love this country can change it.

It’s also a testament to the historic leadership and uncommon courage of the men and women of the United States Congress, who’ve taken their lumps during this difficult debate.

Today, I’m signing this reform bill into law on behalf of my mother, who argued with insurance companies even as she battled cancer in her final days.

We are a nation that faces its challenges and accepts its responsibilities. We are a nation that does what is hard.

What is necessary. What is right. Here, in this country, we shape our own destiny. That is what we do. That is who we are. That is what makes us the United States of America.

It seems disgusting to me that insurance companies can disenfranchise people for merely having pre-existing conditions.
 
It seems disgusting to me that insurance companies can disenfranchise people for merely having pre-existing conditions.

I went independent contractor earlier in my career and then found out I couldn't get insurance because I have a pre-existing condition. So I went a year without insurance. The following year I went back to being an employee and got on my company's insurance plan.

Do I think a bunch of other people should be forced to buy insurance to support me? No. And no I don't hate myself or others like me. But what we've just passed is only going to exhaserbate (sp) the unfunded liabilities our country already faces while not improving the service provided. (sorry, off on a tangent). Not a good day.
 
I went independent contractor earlier in my career and then found out I couldn't get insurance because I have a pre-existing condition. So I went a year without insurance. The following year I went back to being an employee and got on my company's insurance plan.

Do I think a bunch of other people should be forced to buy insurance to support me? No. And no I don't hate myself or others like me. But what we've just passed is only going to exhaserbate (sp) the unfunded liabilities our country already faces while not improving the service provided. (sorry, off on a tangent). Not a good day.
Really? Then can you please explain to me why this hasn't happened in the rest of the industrialized nations who have adopted these reforms? Why is that? Hmm?
 
Really? Then can you please explain to me why this hasn't happened in the rest of the industrialized nations who have adopted these reforms? Why is that? Hmm?

When has government involvement in something made the cost more affordable and the service better?
 
It seems disgusting to me that insurance companies can disenfranchise people for merely having pre-existing conditions.

It's disgusting and reprehensible. Thank God the changes will be starting ASAP.

* Senior citizens will be eligible for up to $250 in prescription drug rebates to close the "doughnut hole," the costly gap for prescription pills. In 2011, a 50 percent discount on prescription drugs will be enacted.

* Lifetime caps on insurance coverage will be removed.

* Insurance companies will not be able to deny coverage if you get sick or cancel coverage already issued except in the case of fraud.

* Prohibits coverage denial or rate adjustment for children who have pre-existing conditions.

* High risk pools will be created for adults with pre-existing conditions to buy into until 2014 when they will also not be denied or have rates adjusted for pre-existing conditions.

* Tax credits for small businesses when purchasing coverage.

* Consumers will have protections against insurance company abuses through the Patients' Bill Of Rights.

* Children will be able to stay under parents' plan until they are 26 years old.

* Consumers will have guaranteed choice of doctors and plans.

* Free preventative care for all.

* All insurers must post their balance sheets on the Internet and fully disclose administrative costs, executive compensation packages, and benefit payments.

(More follows)

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/stor...-Care-Reform-Bill/GYwbvispwEy36LI05K_9Cg.cspx
 
When has government involvement in something made the cost more affordable and the service better?
The Postal Service, Building infrastructure, such as the Interstate Highway system, hydroelectric power generating dams, flood control, national defense, education....shall I continue?

Now, would you please answer my question?
 
The Postal Service, Building infrastructure, such as the Interstate Highway system, hydroelectric power generating dams, flood control, national defense, education....shall I continue?

Now, would you please answer my question?
The postal service runs huge deficits and has a bad business model, it's not a very good example, and you'd have to stretch to say that the regular highway is better than the toll road in Denver that was built, and is run, by a private company. Most power is provided by private companies under the control of the PUCs in each state, these companies have largely invested in their own equipment and most do not tap into hydroelectric power. The most elite schools, even down to preschool, are private schools. Most of your examples are not very good.

National defense. That's one that the government should run, it's even in the constitution. Can you show me a private army so that we can compare if it is more efficiently run?
 
The postal service runs huge deficits and has a bad business model, it's not a very good example, and you'd have to stretch to say that the regular highway is better than the toll road in Denver that was built, and is run, by a private company. Most power is provided by private companies under the control of the PUCs in each state, these companies have largely invested in their own equipment and most do not tap into hydroelectric power. The most elite schools, even down to preschool, are private schools. Most of your examples are not very good.

National defense. That's one that the government should run, it's even in the constitution. Can you show me a private army so that we can compare if it is more efficiently run?

Yet even in the military there is an over abundance of wasteful spending.

As you stated, none of his examples show any evidence of effective or efficient management.
 
The Postal Service, Building infrastructure, such as the Interstate Highway system, hydroelectric power generating dams, flood control, national defense, education....shall I continue?

Now, would you please answer my question?

The Postal Service? Are you kiddin' me?????

They're on the verge of frickin' bankruptcy. I went in to mail a package and was told by the postal agent because they are so in the red, they can no longer provide 9 inches of packing tape.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph!! I cannot believe you cited the god damn postal service!
 
The Postal Service? Are you kiddin' me?????

They're on the verge of frickin' bankruptcy. I went in to mail a package and was told by the postal agent because they are so in the red, they can no longer provide 9 inches of packing tape.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph!! I cannot believe you cited the god damn postal service!

If you're going to lie, at least make an attempt to make it appear plausible.

Total bullshit fabrication.
 
You didn't answer his question...

Ok, since you two have such a freaking hard on.

Look at the economys of any other countries that offer universal healthcare. Do any of them match our economy? And you two really believe they don't have rationing and economic issues providing healthcare? And why do many people from around the world come to the U.S. to receive the best service possible of other countries healthcare are equal or better than ours?
 
If you're going to lie, at least make an attempt to make it appear plausible.

Total bullshit fabrication.

Aww Zappy! Remember how you told everyone how much the rep system here doesn't bother you and how much you couldn't care less? Remember how you tried to "friend" me so you could write on my wall? Now you resort to leaving your fat impotent comments on the neg rep feature you claim to not care about you FAT Crybaby girlieman.

Yes, we did 03-24-2010 11:46 AM ZappasGuitar total bullshit fabrication...you are so full of it.

Well Fat Boy. Looks like the one who's full of bullshit and total fabrication would be you.

Now take your fat impotent self and go stuff a cheeseburger in it, will ya?

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If you're going to lie, at least make an attempt to make it appear plausible.

Total bullshit fabrication.


DO SOMETHING YOU'RE UP CLOSE AND FAMILIAR WITH FAT ASS, AND STUFF IT!

10/16/2009 if you have enough time and a car to go to another postal office, please.... go!!

i stopped by at this location several times, not because i like the service, its simply closer to where i work. lunch time around 12 noon to 2pm, not very busy in the postal office, but i still need to stand in line for 5 to 10 minutes. bring your own shipping tapes otherwise they gonna charge you for it (full price) if they see you use one of usps's, even tho some one else probably used that tape and left it on the counter.

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And in response to the Post Office example...

""The U.S. Postal Service is losing money so quickly you'd think it somehow got mixed up in the subprime mortgage business. It's on track this year for an operating loss of between $6 billion and $12 billion, debt surpassing $10 billion, and a $1 billion cash shortfall. For any business, those are some ugly numbers.""

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/03/news/companies/usps_postal_service_privatize.fortune/index.htm
Fine. Maybe it's not profitable now. What about the over 200 years in which it was? What about the other examples? Your just plain and simply wrong Wacko. There are many things our government and our government workers do very well indeed.

That's my problem with those with this kind of libertarian bent. Government failure is a self fullfilling prophecy to ya'll How can you trust people to run government who have the expectation that government is a bad thing and should fail. That's why no reasonable or responsible person takes libertarians seriously. Who would trust them at the helm of government? I sure as hell wouldn't.
 
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