George Washington & Thomas Jefferson's Quotes about Guns/Arms

The 2nd amendment was written because we had a citizen army protecting a very weak and vulnerable new country. They had to be armed because the Brits attacked weapon depots in earlier battles. Other countries were eyeing America as a valuable addition. Groups like the Green Mountain Boys joined in the Revolution and helped achieve victory.
The 2nd has been around too long, way past its expiration date. We do not and cannot fight our own aemies. That is such a stupid thing to believe.
 
Libhater said:
Ah yes, another lefty who hates our founders and hates our constitution as well. No surprise here.
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I didn't see his question that way.

The question highlighted the fact that times have changed in the past few hundred years, drastically. The founders were amazing, and wise - but theirs was a time of slavery & muskets. They wouldn't want rational people to avoid adapting to changing times.
 
Libhater said:
"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of
independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."

-George Washington


"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

-Thomas Jefferson


There certainly weren't any potential leftist killers of our 2nd Amendment rights back during the time of our 1st and 3rd presidents. Leftists
of today have the urge to topple statues that honored people like George and Thomas who gave us that 2nd Amendment right. Biden's
weaponized government is just what Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were referring to as for people protecting themselves with
arms/guns against the tyranny of government.
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Pretty fucking funny that morons of your stature think your popguns can protect you against the military might of a tyrannical government.
 
On the one hand, I do believe in the private ownership of at least certain kinds of firearms.

On the other hand, I see tens of millions of Americans far too stupid to be entrusted with Popsicle sticks.
Scores of them are right here on JPP.

It pains me to say it, but they give a strong argument to the strict abolitionists.
 
Why should we let the wealthy politicians of today tell us how to live our lives when the wealthy politicians of 250 years ago already did it?
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Why do you have to put words in the mouth of Washington and Jefferson?





Can you at least answer this question -

Why do you hate the founders so much?
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Well, here's Washington's quote which is the same as the one from my OP.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/asaferconnecticut/tmy/0128/Luke Vieira - Plantsville CT.pdf



Oh, here is the quote from Jefferson that is the exact same as the one I posted in the OP.

https://www.monticello.org/research...-to-retain-right-keep-and-bear-arms-spurious/


Feel free to pass these links on to the other ignorant lefties that posted in this thread.
 
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Libhater said:
Oh, and here is the quote from Jefferson which is the exact same one I gave in the OP.

https://www.monticello.org/research...-to-retain-right-keep-and-bear-arms-spurious/


Feel free to pass these quote links along to the other ignorant lefties that posted their bullshit here.
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LMAO did you even read your own link?

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Here's what spurious means, since you seem to need help with that...

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And this is exactly what someone told you earlier.

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Poor Richard Saunders said:
Why do you hate the founders so much that you lie about what they said?
Washington never said the words in red in your quote.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...econd-amendment-taken-out-context/3222186001/

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN23Q2EU/

Washington's actual quote -

https://millercenter.org/the-presid.../january-8-1790-first-annual-message-congress
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Bulverism fallacy. It does not matter if Washington said it or not. The argument remains the same.

The right to self defense is inherent. It does not come from a piece of paper. Both federal and State governments are prohibited from interfering with this right. Yes...that includes the right of self defense against a rogue government.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Then we get to your Jefferson quote, which isn't from Jefferson at all and Jefferson didn't say any of the words in red.

https://www.monticello.org/research...-to-retain-right-keep-and-bear-arms-spurious/

That "quote" from Jefferson doesn't appear anywhere until 1989.

It seems Jefferson and Washington didn't say what you claimed.



Why do you hate them so much that you lie about what they said?
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It doesn't matter whether Jefferson said it. The argument remains the same.

The right of self defense is inherent. It does not come from a piece of paper. That right includes defense against a rogue government.

The advice is sound. Keep guns and sufficient ammunition to defend yourself, even against tyranny. Keep your alliances informed. They are your neighbors and communities that are just as much in danger as you in the face of tyranny.
 
Flash said:
Jefferson had no part in writing the Constitution or any of the first ten amendments.
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Not quite, Sock.

Although Jefferson was in France at the time the Constitution itself was drafted, many of Jefferson's ideas were incorporated into it, including the Bill of Rights.
Madison wrote the bulk of the Constitution. Jefferson wrote the bulk of the Declaration of Independence.
 
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