Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Trump’s Immunity Claim, Setting Arguments for April

[ThatOwlWoman]

It's time to expand the supreme court, there is nothing to hear about this case?!! Trump does not have immunity and this is just a delay tactic too?!! The people want to know if we have a guilty or innocent person running for president?!! Sound like those Trump appointed justices are finally paying debt to Trump?!!

Yes, it's a delaying tactic but I'm glad that they will settle it once and for all. If they declare that the POTUS can do anything, up to and including murder, while in office Biden can have #TRE45ON permanently sanctioned. Seal Team Six? Got a mission for you down in Florida. lol

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Yes, it's a delaying tactic but I'm glad that they will settle it once and for all. If they declare that the POTUS can do anything, up to and including murder, while in office Biden can have #TRE45ON permanently sanctioned. Seal Team Six? Got a mission for you down in Florida. lol

I would like Biden to drone both Trump and the SCOTUS, but that's me.
Let the Seals sleep in and give us a few pyrotechnics for entertainment.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I would like Biden to drone both Trump and the SCOTUS, but that's me.
Let the Seals sleep in and give us a few pyrotechnics for entertainment.

It would make a most fitting Independence Day celebration, eh? lol

 

[Concart]

No,...I was just responding to signalman when he said it was about time we expanded the supreme court. He seems to think it would be a great idea.

Yes it would be. However a president does not have the power to do so. Only Congress can do so. Let’s take a look at the two possibilities that exist to expand the court. Trump wins and has majorities in both houses. Attempting to expand the court would be a minor power grab compared to the other plans he has. I doubt he’d waste his time, he already has a rubber stamp court. If Biden is in the same position, it’s easy to justify expanding the court by two members. I’d say Democrats should do four just to make sure. That along with getting rid of the filibuster, passing a new voting rights act and passing the border bill, single payer health care, a one time wealth task, income tax reform, entitlement reform, codifying Roe v. Wade, passing protections for the LGBTQ population, and strengthening consumer and environmental protections. That should fix a lot of the damage.

 

[Concart]

Democrats should not count on the courts to stop Trump. That’s the voters job. We will handle it. Up and down the ballot.

 

[Lionfish]

It is bullshit, when Smith asked them two months ago to take it up they responded they wanted to see what the lesser Court would decide, and now that they quickly delivered an unanimous decision, the Supreme Court suddenly says they want to look at it, two months from now, and with this Court, probably issue a verdict in late June

At the least, to push the trial so close to the election that Trump well starting filling suits to delay the trial tying it up further with legalities, and the worse, for them to issue such a muddled opinion that Trump’s army of attorneys will open up new avenues of appeal

Poor anchovies, only an idiot would think this is not where it would wind up.

 

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What kind of suits could he file that would delay his criminal case?

I would have thought he would have wanted to be “exonerated” before the election.

Trump lawyers claiming the Justice Dept has always gone out of its way not to pursue a case with political connections so close to an election. The suit will be bogus, but they will file an appeal that it go before a Judge whose decision will be further appealed

Trump doesn’t want any case before the public before the election, all the details, plus surely never heard one’s, coming forth and regularly covered in the media

His Court did him a big favor here, wonder how Mitch, who gave him this Court, feels about it now

 

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Apparently he knows more about the law than the justices do.

Get real, the “Justices,” least four of them, don’t give a rat’s ass about the law, they weren’t put there to care about the law

Mitch, when he made it a majority confirmation vote in the Senate, made it a 100% political Court, they, again least four, do exactly as their sugar daddies tell them regardless of the law

 

[archives]

Correct.

And lets not forget Jack Smith asked the SC back in December that 'if you are going to want to be the final authority on this case, for its importance, then take it now' and they refused. They let the State Court decide and then said 'ya great you decided but we don't accept it and think we need to decide''.

that was deliberate choice.

Taking 2 weeks to say 'we will hear it', is a deliberate choice.

Setting it to be heard at the end of April, is a deliberate choice.


That is not even a real concern. They won't.

But they can get to the same place, potentially, by just buying him enough time to potentially win the GE which defacto will put him above the law. They can then still rule no POTUS is above the law, while knowing Trump is immunized as current POTUS.


Here is the proof of how this SC acts selectively in favor of Trump. When Trump was at risk of being off the Colorado ballot based on the State SC ruling, the SCOTUS took that case instantly and fast tracked it hearings and have already done them. NO delay in deciding to hear it. No delay in getting it to the Court. They have ensured they can rule against it and decide Trump can be on the ballot.

You can look back at Bush V Gore, and see how fast they moved so they could stop the count, and preserve a win for Bush Jr, that he otherwise would have lost.

You now have a ruling in Illinois that Trump is 'off the ballot' and you can bet, the SCOTUS will fast track that one and clear it, if they cannot simply kill it via doing a ruling on Colorado that denies all States the ability to take a POTUS Candidate off the ballot.

What makes you sure “they won’t?”

Sure, they are not going to come right out and say no President is above criminal law, however, they could issue such a muddled decision, say for example, Trump really thought the election was illegitimate so he was acting accordingly, the real or not, so he did nothing wrong but that doesn’t mean all Presidents can do the same

 

[Ross Dolan]

It's time to expand the supreme court, there is nothing to hear about this case?!! Trump does not have immunity and this is just a delay tactic too?!! The people want to know if we have a guilty or innocent person running for president?!! Sound like those Trump appointed justices are finally paying debt to Trump?!!

The words of Benjamin Franklin kept running though my mind today. In response to a question from Elizabeth Willing, "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?"...Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

Right now, I am doubting that we can.

 

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Poor anchovies, only an idiot would think this is not where it would wind up.

Should have “winded up” there in December when Smith requested the Court take it up, that is the first error here, it was all a orchestrated scheme designed to push any trial out beyond the election

 

[zymurgy]

Poor anchovies, only an idiot would think this is not where it would wind up.

poor crybabies. it is now the season where they cry about how unfair the delay is....when they purposely slow walked things to maximize damage in 2022

 

[archives]

The words of Benjamin Franklin kept running though my mind today. In response to a question from Elizabeth Willing, "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?"...Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

Right now, I am doubting that we can.

It all rides on the election, not so much the results of the election, but rather if one side loses, how they will accept those results, you know Trump is never going to say he lost, if he lost all fifty Stares, he won’t accept defeat, and what happens next will be the determining factor if we survive as a democracy

 

[Ross Dolan]

Democrats should not count on the courts to stop Trump. That’s the voters job. We will handle it. Up and down the ballot.

Unfortunately, I doubt we, the voters, can.

Only six states really in contention...and Trump does not actually have to win any of them. All he has to do is get state officials to throw shade at the results. All he has to do is to deny Joe Biden the Electoral College win. Then the election gets thrown into the House...and it becomes a sure win for the Republicans.

We are fucked.

 

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poor crybabies. it is now the season where they cry about how unfair the delay is....when they purposely slow walked things to maximize damage in 2022

Ah, what in the hell does 2022 have to do with Trump’s SCOTUS helping him?

 

[archives]

Unfortunately, I doubt we, the voters, can.

Only six states really in contention...and Trump does not actually have to win any of them. All he has to do is get state officials to throw shade at the results. All he has to do is to deny Joe Biden the Electoral College win. Then the election gets thrown into the House...and it becomes a sure win for the Republicans.

We are fucked.

And you got to believe that with four years to plan, and no regard for the law, they have plans all ready to proceed

 

[Concart]

Unfortunately, I doubt we, the voters, can.

Only six states really in contention...and Trump does not actually have to win any of them. All he has to do is get state officials to throw shade at the results. All he has to do is to deny Joe Biden the Electoral College win. Then the election gets thrown into the House...and it becomes a sure win for the Republicans.

We are fucked.

Nah. I don't see it that way. Trump tried to put election deniers in positions that will allow him to do that. He failed. Trump and the Republicans are going to be destroyed up and down the ballot. Republicans are underperforming in every single election. And Trump is flailing at this point. He's unhinged. I'm not worried. He is in a far worse position to steal this election than he was the last time.

 

[zymurgy]

Ah, what in the hell does 2022 have to do with Trump’s SCOTUS helping him?

January 6th Committee and its politically-timed "report" was designed to slow roll the next step. this was always going to happen.

had they not did everything they could to maximize damage in the 2022 election, SCOTUS would of already been done with the ruling here

sick of you gas lighting shit stains pretending you aren't just as political with your decisions and timing of things

 

[Damocles]

The Supreme Court on Wednesday agreed to decide whether former President Donald J. Trump is immune from prosecution on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election.

The justices scheduled arguments for the week of April 22 and said proceedings in the trial court would remain frozen while they considered the matter.

The court’s brief order said the court will decide this question: “Whether and if so to what extent does a former president enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/us/supreme-court-trump-immunity-trial.html

Did we save any of the "they'll never hear it because the appeals court did a 'fantastic' job explaining their reasoning!" posts or were they lost in the restore? I sure hope they were not lost in the restore...

 

[QP!]

What makes you sure “they won’t?”

Because the SC, especially this SC loves it power, and if you put a POTUS above the law, that means the SC gives all its power away to the POTUS.

It would mean a future POTUS could simply have Justices killed to create vacancies, as Trump argued was within his powers to do.

Sure, they are not going to come right out and say no President is above criminal law, however, they could issue such a muddled decision, say for example, Trump really thought the election was illegitimate so he was acting accordingly, the real or not, so he did nothing wrong but that doesn’t mean all Presidents can do the same

WHich i think i said the same or similar with this...

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But they can get to the same place, potentially, by just buying him enough time to potentially win the GE which defacto will put him above the law. They can then still rule no POTUS is above the law, while knowing Trump is immunized as current POTUS....