More Floridians per capita move to California

Into the Night said:
It is the worst place to make money. The government takes a lot of it, and the government is constantly dictating to businesses all kinds of silly things. It is living in fascism. Cost of living is high too, due mostly by shortages caused by government and high taxes.
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I'd rather make $100 and have the state take $6 than make $50 and the state take nothing.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
on the other hand there are two other valid ways to compare it.......1) a shitload more Californians are moving to Florida than Floridians to California.......and 2) when you include the Californians moving to the other 48 states, there are a shitload of Californians moving..........

and that's not even considering all the illegal aliens moving INTO California.......its going to be even worse when we deport them.......
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I moved to Florida. Then, I came back to California. What a relief
We ended up moving back to California because of DeSantis and his minions running the state. Sure, there’s no state income tax, but everything else is almost as expensive as in California — food, utilities, dining out and so on.
Add to that the Trump fans driving around with Confederate flags attached to their trucks along with ugly antisemitic or anti-gay stickers plastered on the windows, and it was enough to say it is time to return to California. We are extremely happy we did, as we feel safe now.
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I can't blame him, the right are truely disgusting.
 
No one moves back to California for those reasons... but I thought the economy was great... why are things so expensive in California... not comparable to Florida by the way...
 
PostmodernProphet said:
on the other hand there are two other valid ways to compare it.......1) a shitload more Californians are moving to Florida than Floridians to California.......and 2) when you include the Californians moving to the other 48 states, there are a shitload of Californians moving..........

and that's not even considering all the illegal aliens moving INTO California.......its going to be even worse when we deport them.......
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You have to normalize for population size to be able to compare statistically across states. The number of people leaving California can't be statistically compared to the number of people leaving Rhode Island, unless you normalize for population size.

On average, per every thousand Floridians, more of them are moving to California than the other way around.

Not to mention there is probably a brain drain on Florida. California is expensive, and is probably mostly drawing educated and high income Floridians.
 
Cypress said:
You have to normalize for population size to be able to compare statistically across states. The number of people leaving California can't be statistically compared to the number of people leaving Rhode Island, unless you normalize for population size.

On average, per every thousand Floridians, more of them are moving to California than the other way around.

Not to mention there is probably a brain drain on Florida. California is expensive, and is probably mostly drawing educated and high income Floridians.
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California is expensive because it is poorly run.
 
Walt said:
Florida used to be a low cost/low pay state, where you would not make much money, but many things were cheaper. Young people used to like to go there, and get a start, not needing much money.

DeSantis changed all that. Now it is a high cost/low pay state. Young people will not make much money, but they will have to pay through the nose to live there.

It is not effecting older people as much, yet. One major hurricane, and old people will get the message too. In the last 5 years, homeowners insurance has risen by 300%. It is sometimes impossible to get homeowners insurance at any price. A hurricane will bring home to old people that Florida is a place that can and will wipe out your nest egg.
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Major hurricane damage happens mostly to idiots who choose to buy or build property directly on the coast, with the beach as their backyard. Any fool understands how risky that is.

But what about victims of the annually occuring California wildfires? Or the mud-slides? Or of course, the earthquakes? Or the high crime rates?

How about the victims of annually occurring floods and tornadoes in the Midwest?

Or those who freeze their asses off for nearly half of every year across the north?

Will they all be moving? Where?

Florida hating homos have such a hard on for this state.

Too funny. :laugh:

Cypress said:
Disney tried to move it's animation staff from Orange County to Orlando, and the staff revolted causing Disney to back off the move.

My favorite story of a politically motivated move gone bad is Gene Simmons of KISS moving to Nevada after
complaining about the politics in California, but he moved back to Malibu after six months, bitching about the unbearable heat in Las Vegas
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The reason they nixed the move was thanks to the former head of WDW who tried to make woke homo worshipping company policy, which in turn, invited the backlash it got from Governor DeFacist.

Had nothing to do with our state or the quality of life or any imaginary "staff revolt". Obviously there were a number of employees who were against it, but that is to be expected no matter which states are involved. Pulling up stakes, packing up everything you own, selling your home and travelling to a new place is not an appealing prospect for most people.

What you should be asking yourself is why Disney made the decision to leave Califuckya in the first place.

The answer to that is simple.... high taxes, high operational expenses and excessive, onerous regulations created a shitty business environment.

https://www.reuters.com/business/me...e-2000-jobs-florida-company-email-2023-05-18/
 
Nomad said:
The reason they nixed the move was thanks to the former head of WDW

Had nothing to do with our state or the quality of life or any imaginary "staff revolt"
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"Many Disney employees balked at the company's relocation plans when they were first announced in July 2021 by former CEO Bob Chapek. While some left the company, or transitioned to other posts within Disney that would not require a move to Florida, others held out hope that the plan would fizzle out after a postponement."



Orlando is in the middle of a swamp, it is unbearably hot, humid as a sauna, topography flat as a pancake.

Orange County has some of the best weather on the planet, is minutes from the Pacific Ocean, and within an hour of mountains and skiing.
 
Cypress said:
"Many Disney employees balked at the company's relocation plans when they were first announced in July 2021 by former CEO Bob Chapek. While some left the company, or transitioned to other posts within Disney that would not require a move to Florida, others held out hope that the plan would fizzle out after a postponement."



Orlando is in the middle of a swamp, it is unbearably hot, humid as a sauna, topography flat as a pancake.

Orange County has some of the best weather on the planet, is minutes from the Pacific Ocean, and within an hour of mountains and skiing.
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When companies relocate to another state typically lots of people choose not to move.
 
ExpressLane said:
When companies relocate to another state typically lots of people choose not to move.
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Also, people aren't stupid.

Orlando is just a swamp that has been paved over. By mid century the heat and humidity will probably be so unbearable, it will generally only appeal to people who like to spend ten months a year indoors and don't mind $600/month air conditioning bills.

Orange County will always have a temperate climate because of the moderating marine effects of the Pacific Ocean.
 
Port Tack said:
No doubt.

According to census figures an estimated 50,701 people moved from California to Florida between 2021 and 2022. Seeing as California has a population of 40 million while Florida’s population is 20 million or one half of California’s that means that if 25,000 people moved from Florida to California the migration between states per capita would be the identical. But they aren’t the same, 28,000 people moved from Florida to California between 2021 and 2022. Per capita more people are moving from Florida to California than California to Florida.
Saying more people are leaving California than any other state is meaningless, of course there are more leaving, the state has far more people than any other state.
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Yes. Saying more people left California than left Rhode Island or left Montana is meaningless statistically.

You have to normalize for population size to compare between States.
 
Cypress said:
"Many Disney employees balked at the company's relocation plans when they were first announced in July 2021 by former CEO Bob Chapek. While some left the company, or transitioned to other posts within Disney that would not require a move to Florida, others held out hope that the plan would fizzle out after a postponement."
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So, how does "balked at" and "held out hope" = revolt?

If you have to use hyperbole, exaggeration and outright lie in order to push your agenda, then your agenda is probably phony to begin with.

Meanwhile, enjoy forking over even more of your paycheck for reparations to Crips and Bloods thugs who'll use it to buy Escalades, spinner rims, giant boom box speakers to blast their vile, obnoxious gangsta rap out of and more guns to slaughter each other as well as innocent store clerks with, as they rob them then decide to leave no witnesses.

Hopefully you all will get your money's worth. :thup:

Cypress said:
Orlando is in the middle of a swamp, it is unbearably hot, humid as a sauna, topography flat as a pancake.
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Orlando is not in the middle of a swamp. The Everglades south of Lake Okeechobee in South Florida is a swamp. Orlando was pine scrubland.

Southern California OTOH is in the middle of a DESERT. Which is why they have to STEAL water from other states and are now drinking and bathing in recycled raw sewage.

https://calmatters.org/environment/... Diego State,treated waste for drinking water.

You can talk all you want to about how highly treated it is, but every time you drink tap water or from a public drinking fountain, you'll know that just yesterday, millions of people pissed and shit in it.

Drink up, California!!! :laugh:

Cypress said:
Orange County has some of the best weather on the planet, is minutes from the Pacific Ocean, and within an hour of mountains and skiing.
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And how many/what percentage of southern Californians actually go skiing? Half of 1% tops? Puh-lease.

Anyway, it must be wonderful to look forward to the exact same weather on Christmas day as on the Fourth of July.

Wow. How awesome.

This California vs Florida shit has gotten so boring.

The reason why woke, SJW crowd has a hard on for Florida is obvious.

We don't kiss the feet and asses of society's favorite victim groups.

One of a small few positive aspects of a Republican majority.
 
Cypress said:
Also, people aren't stupid.

Orlando is just a swamp that has been paved over. By mid century the heat and humidity will probably be so unbearable, it will generally only appeal to people who like to spend ten months a year indoors and don't mind $600/month air conditioning bills.

Orange County will always have a temperate climate because of the moderating marine effects of the Pacific Ocean.
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Utter mierda caballo.

The land Orlando was built on was never a swamp.

It was pine woodland.

And you have no idea what the climate 50 years from now will be like in either state.

When it comes to Califuckya, this is how you come across ↗ :cheer:

:palm:
 
Cypress said:
You have to normalize for population size to be able to compare statistically across states. The number of people leaving California can't be statistically compared to the number of people leaving Rhode Island, unless you normalize for population size.

On average, per every thousand Floridians, more of them are moving to California than the other way around.

Not to mention there is probably a brain drain on Florida. California is expensive, and is probably mostly drawing educated and high income Floridians.
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this isn't rocket science.......you don't actually have to "normalize" anything.......Florida is better run than California.....even Newsom's father in law realizes that.......Florida is growing......California is declining.....what more do you need to know to be normal?......
 
Walt said:
Vegas can be fun, but it is a creepy place. I would not want to live there.
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I lived there for a decade


At fist it was kinda cool

Then the tea party happened


Lots of creeps moved to LV

They began destroying the school system with tea tard stupid


It got really weird


I was so glad when my hubby got transferred back to socal
 
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