Progressives blew it, and now democracy is on the brink

BartenderElite said:
Those #'s should be real red flags.

I think many progressives work to advance their ideals in a methodical way, and kind of behind the scenes. But some of the leaders are much more vocal, and less compromising. They see an opening to change things, and are simply going too far w/ it. It's turning a lot of more moderate voters off.
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Tyranny is not progression. Democrats are tyranny.
 
BartenderElite said:
Just watching what happened in Argentina, and what is unfolding hear in America w/ Trump seemingly coasting to the GOP nomination, and what looks likely to be a return to the Oval.

Reasonable people can't help but question these things. How is this happening? How can so many people WANT this return to more authoritarian rule?

Part of the answer is that the left gave them no palatable alternative. Progressive ideals are the correct ones - they ARE the future. In the future, people will work harder to protect our planet. LGBTQ won't even be a discussion topic, because we'll view all people equally and all will have equal rights and respect. Et al.

But the left went too far, too fast. It allowed conservatives to define progressivism to a frightened public, for whom the changes were seen as too extreme and a threat to the lives they had gotten used to. The right was given some license to fearmonger to the extreme, painting pictures of all communities being like San Francisco (or, their interpretation of what that city represents).

When people are afraid, they'll choose from a place of fear (logical). It's not an aspirational place. It's a reactionary place.

Progressives blew it. And now everything they hold dear is at risk.
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I agree 1000% and I am a liberal and I am supportive of democracy, but I hope Trump wins....lets see how this fascism will work on these redneck losers wanting change. Hell, I'll try anything once I can not stomach another year of Biden who is just too stuck on stupid, thinking its okay to release thousands upon thousand of undocumented immigrants into the country, who thought it was okay to give blood thirsty jews a rubber stamp to slaughter, who still thinks the UAW is needy and need help while completely ignoring seniors, students and minorities.....I'm staying home next Nov if this man doesn't come into the 21st century He's too gotdamn stupid thinking he beat Trump once he can do it again...NEWS FLASH JOE, IT WAS THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND MINORITIES THAT GOT YOU THE WHITE HOUSE AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND A STIMULUS CHECK
 
BidenPresident said:
Pathetic. Truly pathetic. I hope our nation moves past your nihilism.
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I'm not pathetic, I'm just sick of the GOP and Trump and anybody wanting to end this man and this nightmare will vote Trump 2024. We need to see what a MAGA nation will do to this country, else we're gonna be living Trump FOREVER AND EVER, TILL THIS MONSTER DIES....PLEASE VOTE TRUMP 2024.....
and let the carnage began!!
 
tigerred59 said:


I'm not pathetic, I'm just sick of the GOP and Trump and anybody wanting to end this man and this nightmare will vote Trump 2024. We need to see what a MAGA nation will do to this country, else we're gonna be living Trump FOREVER AND EVER, TILL THIS MONSTER DIES....PLEASE VOTE TRUMP 2024.....
and let the carnage began!!
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I suggest you read European history and find out how it worked out for Italy and Germany.
 
Into the Night said:
Assuming the election of 2024 doesn't fault again, of course. The elections of 2020 and 2022 both faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.
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Still drinking the Trump vomit laced kool aide....dude, if you got any proof or your nuts have any proof of fraud, the GOP stacked courts await....otherwise, please please find a store this holiday that has brain juice cells on sale and load up on it, please!!
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I have said that at least the NAZI's were honest about what they were after....the WOKE consider honesty a character flaw.
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No, the Nazis lied too.
They lied to their own people about what was really happening to the Jews.
They coerced their own people to the Nazi movement. Any dissidents simply disappeared, and they lied about what happened to them.
 
Concart said:
I don' believe for one second that Trump will win the White House. He has zero room for growth, and a year out, many people remain clueless as to what his intent is. That will change. Hopefully I'm right about this, but I can guarantee you that I am making contingency plans. Trump wins, and I will be spending a lot more time out of the country. I don't trust Nazis who are given power.
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The Nazis were socialists, moron; like Democrats. If you want to leave the country, fine. Go live in a socialist hellhole somewhere else. May I suggest the dictatorship of Canada? Perhaps Cuba? Perhaps Germany? Russia? Iran?
 
BartenderElite said:
I said that in 2016. I thought there was simply no way a guy like that could win, even against a weak candidate like Clinton.

The polls now are stunning to me. And I'm not one to dismiss polls when they don't reflect my POV. Polls are usually accurate. After everything Trump has done - he still has many millions who will vote for him. And he can beat Biden.

I think a win by either of those men would be bad for the country. I'm very concerned about the potential for violence. It feels like 1/6 was just a small taste of what we might see. Close to half the country won't accept either result.

I'm strongly considering leaving the country. People always say that about elections, but things could really go south in a year.
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People are not going to put up with the Democrats, and the arson, looting, violence, and rioting (including Jan 6th) that they support and caused.

Yes, civil war is coming (in many ways it's already here). Democrats started it. Things have already gone 'south'. You're too late.

If the 2024 elections do not fault and:
Trump wins, then Democrats are going to go ape and start the violence again. The country descends into civil war.
Biden (or another Democrat) wins, Democrats are going to take that as 'confirmation' and continue their tyranny up to and including more violence then they use now. The country descends in to civil war.

If the 2024 elections fault:
People, who have witnessed the 2020, and 2022 elections also faulting will realize there is no valid election anymore, and the country will descend into civil war.

No matter where you go, you cannot escape it. WW3 is coming. So is civil war in many places.

But, you go live in your socialist hellhole and think you're safe.
 
tigerred59 said:


I agree 1000% and I am a liberal and I am supportive of democracy, but I hope Trump wins....lets see how this fascism will work on these redneck losers wanting change. Hell, I'll try anything once I can not stomach another year of Biden who is just too stuck on stupid, thinking its okay to release thousands upon thousand of undocumented immigrants into the country, who thought it was okay to give blood thirsty jews a rubber stamp to slaughter, who still thinks the UAW is needy and need help while completely ignoring seniors, students and minorities.....I'm staying home next Nov if this man doesn't come into the 21st century He's too gotdamn stupid thinking he beat Trump once he can do it again...NEWS FLASH JOE, IT WAS THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND MINORITIES THAT GOT YOU THE WHITE HOUSE AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND A STIMULUS CHECK
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Fascism is a form of socialism, like DEMOCRATS.
 
tigerred59 said:


I'm not pathetic, I'm just sick of the GOP and Trump and anybody wanting to end this man and this nightmare will vote Trump 2024. We need to see what a MAGA nation will do to this country, else we're gonna be living Trump FOREVER AND EVER, TILL THIS MONSTER DIES....PLEASE VOTE TRUMP 2024.....
and let the carnage began!!
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War mongering.
 
Into the Night said:
And if that happens, Democrats will go ape and start a civil war.
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We're already in a civil war. We just need to have the will to win.

democrat terrorist troops waged Kristallnacht on the nation using the Floyd idiocy as their excuse. Basically we let armed thugs burn, rape, loot, and murder from coast to coast with no response for fear that we would be called "fascists" if we did.

BUT after the J6 Reichstag Fire and the extreme abuses by Xi's Biden Regime and the democrat party, that time is past. When the fascist democrats again become violent - which they will, it's their nature, we will put them down.

After all, what are these fuckwits going to do, hurl their pronouns at us?

If Trump wins, as all indications point to - the foul vermin we call democrats will indeed become violent.

Shoot to kill.
 
Stone said:
At risk? :laugh: No son. Truth is were going to blow it all to bits and cast the dying remnants to the wind which is exactly where they belong. When we are done there wont be a left.
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Even if you hateful idiots wiped the Democrats off the face of the Earth, you RIGHTISTS would still be ripping each other's balls off further dividing yourselves into oblivion!

The Democrats are the only ones helping to save yourselves from yourselves right now!

And you Sir, and your family would be one of the first ones to be rounded up, put in an internment camp, and eventually sent to the ovens.

You think you will like Autocracy, but it will get you killed or locked up in prison.

You do not even know what you are asking for, because you can't see out beyond your own rectum!

Sure, you like the smell of your own shit right now, but if Trump gets re-elected, you will soon after be eating your own shit- LET ME TELL YOU!

Trump is just using convenient idiots like you to get himself put back into power, but in reality, he hates people like you and has no respect for you!

You are a sucker Sir.
 
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