White House won’t release evidence that Biden family payments were for loans

[Yakuda]

More lies.

No it's true you cockroaches hate facts.

 

[Concart]

Why the fuck should they? No one is required to disprove every bullshit fucking story that is made up about them.

Next?

 

[Concart]

We have seen this movie before. It was called the birther movement. The biggest mistake Obama made was trying to satisfy those stupid fucks. Same goes here.

 

[Jarod]

No it's true you cockroaches hate facts.

Show us anywhere that a judge ruled that Mar-A-Lago was worth "only 18 million dollars." You cant, because you are a fucking shitty person who lies to maintain your false world view. .

THe pitiful part is you lie to yourself and start believing your own lies.

 

[Yakuda]

Show us anywhere that a judge ruled that Mar-A-Lago was worth "only 18 million dollars." You cant, because you are a fucking shitty person who lies to maintain your false world view. .

THe pitiful part is you lie to yourself and start believing your own lies.

Stop being a fucking drama queen you maggot.

Was mar a Lago valued at $18 million yes or no?

 

[Jarod]

Stop being a fucking drama queen you maggot.

Was mar a Lago valued at $18 million yes or no?

No, the closest you get is a tax appraisal from Palm Beach County saying that under specific conditions it was worth 18-27 million. I do not know about other States, but in the two places I own real property, North Carolina and Palm Beach County, tax appraisals are generally about 25% of actual value.

That is very different than your claim that a judge found it was worth only 18 million.

Can you see that its a lie to claim the Judge found the property was worth only 18 million?

 

[Concart]

Still waiting for Trump's tax returns. And his bank records. And his birth certificate. And his college transcripts. And........

 

[Lionfish]

So they say. But they also say where there is smoke there is fire.

One of the fake lawyers on this forum says that a lot when Trump is involved.

 

[Yakuda]

No, the closest you get is a tax appraisal from Palm Beach County saying that under specific conditions it was worth 18-27 million. I do not know about other States, but in the two places I own real property, North Carolina and Palm Beach County, tax appraisals are generally about 25% of actual value.

That is very different than your claim that a judge found it was worth only 18 million.

Can you see that its a lie to claim the Judge found the property was worth only 18 million?

Try to focus, in the court case the property determined to be worth $18million yes or no?

 

[Jarod]

Try to focus, in the court case the property determined to be worth $18million yes or no?

NO!

 

[Yakuda]

NO!

No? What was the property valued at?

 

[Lionfish]

 

[QP!]

You cockroaches said trump colluded with the Russians. Complete fucking lie based on a bogus dossier. Stfu

Because it was FACTUALLY established by Trump's own Republi'can' AG hand picked Republ'can' Special Counsel and by a Republi'can' lead Senate committee that the Trump Campaign DID COLLUDE with Russians.

So stop pretending in your next post that you do not always mindlessly defend Trump when you keep repeating this lie and will ignore the FACTS below and say the lie again later.

Senate panel finds Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election

The Trump campaign’s interactions with Russian intelligence services during the 2016 presidential election posed a “grave” counterintelligence threat, a Senate panel concluded Tuesday as it detailed how associates of Donald Trump had regular contact with Russians and expected to benefit from the Kremlin’s help.

The nearly 1,000-page report, the fifth and final one from the Republican-led Senate intelligence committee on the Russia investigation, details how Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the election on Trump’s behalf. It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers.

The report is the culmination of a bipartisan probe that produced what the committee called “the most comprehensive description to date of Russia’s activities and the threat they posed.” The investigation spanned more than three years as the panel’s leaders said they wanted to thoroughly document the unprecedented attack on U.S. elections...

The investigation “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign” and established that the Trump Campaign “showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton”

- In 2015 and 2016, Michael Cohen pursued a hotel/residence project in Moscow on behalf of Trump while he was campaigning for President.[5] Then-candidate Trump personally signed a letter of intent.

- Senior members of the Trump campaign, including Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., and Jared Kushner took a June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian nationals at Trump Tower, New York, after outreach from an intermediary informed Trump, Jr., that the Russians had derogatory information on Clinton that was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”[6]

- Beginning in June 2016, a Trump associate “forecast to senior [Trump] Campaign officials that WikiLeaks would release information damaging to candidate Clinton.”[7] A section of the Report that remains heavily redacted suggests that Roger Stone was this associate and that he had significant contacts with the campaign about Wikileaks.[8]

- The Report described multiple occasions where Trump associates lied to investigators about Trump associate contacts with Russia. Trump associates George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen all admitted that they made false statements to federal investigators or to Congress about their contacts. In addition, Roger Stone faces trial this fall for obstruction of justice, five counts of making false statements, and one count of witness tampering.

- The Report contains no evidence that any Trump campaign official reported their contacts with Russia or WikiLeaks to U.S. law enforcement authorities during the campaign or presidential transition, despite public reports on Russian hacking starting in June 2016 and candidate Trump’s August 2016 intelligence briefing warning him that Russia was seeking to interfere in the election.

- The Report raised questions about why Trump associates and then-candidate Trump repeatedly asserted Trump had no connections to Russia.[9]


Special Counsel Mueller declined to exonerate President Trump and instead detailed multiple episodes in which he engaged in obstructive conduct

 

[Nordberg]

So they say. But they also say where there is smoke there is fire.

Reds used that on Hillary and are doing it to Biden. Repugs are simple people who go where the wealthy lead them.

 

[QP!]

we aren't saying he's guilty....

Good. Because nothing shows that he is.

the check Jim gave him does that...

No check does that, especially one between family members.

But we understand how stupid people think all checks suggest some crime until proven otherwise.

....we're just saying he doesn't have anything to show he actually gave Jim a loan......

Which is normal in many close family loan situations.

 

[QP!]

Stop being a fucking drama queen you maggot.

Was mar a Lago valued at $18 million yes or no?

Trump said it was valued less in written court filings to try and get the taxes reduced.

So 'yes' it was valued at less than $18MM by Trump and he will tell you he is an expert in this area.

 

[Jarod]

No? What was the property valued at?

It has not been valued by the Court.

Are you starting to learn something here?

 

[Nordberg]

Not if your last name is Trump...

Wrong. Trump was proven guilty many times. He was found guilty of fraud in the latest case. They are determining what the punishment will be.
In fact, denial of Trump's overt guilt is how he stays in the race. He is simply a scofflaw and an immature bully. You know Trump is guilty in the Georgia case. He practically did it in public. We all heard the audios of his trying to overthrow the election.
He also was blatant in the documents case, stealing truckloads of documents and denying the authorities while trying to keep what he stole.
Yeah, Trump is in fact a repeating criminal and we know it.

 

[Yakuda]

NO!

“From 2011-2021, the Palm Beach County Assessor appraised the market value of Mar-a-Lago at between $18 million and $27.6 million,” Engoron wrote in his ruling.

The judge noted Trump valued Mar-a-Lago at between $426.5 million and $612 million, “an overvaluation of at least 2,300%, compared to the assessor’s appraisal.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/business/trump-fraud-judge-mar-a-lago/index.html

Pay attention to to link dipshit, CNN so I xi t want to hear any fucking whining about it being a "right wing" outlet.

The dipshit judge thinks the county assessor determines "market value" but its the assessed value not the market value.

The idiot then goes in to claim trump overvalued the property by 2300%. How the fuck then did the idiot decide that if he didnt first decided the value of the property was $18 million? He didn't produce the number $18 million but decided that was it's "market value". You and him are both idiots.

 

[Jarod]

“From 2011-2021, the Palm Beach County Assessor appraised the market value of Mar-a-Lago at between $18 million and $27.6 million,” Engoron wrote in his ruling.

The judge noted Trump valued Mar-a-Lago at between $426.5 million and $612 million, “an overvaluation of at least 2,300%, compared to the assessor’s appraisal.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/business/trump-fraud-judge-mar-a-lago/index.html

Pay attention to to link dipshit, CNN so I xi t want to hear any fucking whining about it being a "right wing" outlet.

The dipshit judge thinks the county assessor determines "market value" but its the assessed value not the market value.

The idiot then goes in to claim trump overvalued the property by 2300%. How the fuck then did the idiot decide that if he didnt first decided the value of the property was $18 million? He didn't produce the number $18 million but decided that was it's "market value". You and him are both idiots.

The Judge did not indicate what he thinks about about the County Assessor's assessed value, he just listed it as one of the points of evidence.

Why do you pretend?

Even if you are duped into believing your claims... 18-27 is not 18.

Please cite where he claimed Trump overvalued the property by 2300% and how he came to that number. According to your article he only said that Trumps evaluation was 2300% over the tax assessors value... not that the Tax assessor was correct.