And poof Biden's candidacy is gone.

serendipity said:
How do you tell the difference, pray tell?
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If you can’t tell the difference you do not belong in political discussions. Sadly I think you actually can’t tell.

Of course in this case you look at the link and the article is labeled ‘Opinion’. Which was a clue for those of us who can actually read. Go figure.
 
ExpressLane said:
Democrats are calling Biden Genocide Joe. Hundreds of thousands of protesters are pissed at Biden. Prominent Democrats are calling on Biden to quit. The polls are against Biden. Even the NYT said Biden is in trouble.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html


Come on Joe you know it is time to quit. You said you would be a one term President when you ran last time.

Should biden step aside and let a better Democrat run.
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If you weren't worried sick about Biden winning the election, YOU WOULD NOT BE posting such rubbish!

No Sir! You would be glad he was running for president!

That's OK, we will both be here a year from today, and I can already tell you a year in advance- BIDEN WINS AGAIN!

And Trump will be going to jail soon after! HAHAHAHA! :laugh:
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
If you weren't worried sick about Biden winning the election, YOU WOULD NOT BE posting such rubbish!

No Sir! You would be glad he was running for president!

That's OK, we will both be here a year from today, and I can already tell you a year in advance- BIDEN WINS AGAIN!

And Trump will be going to jail soon after! HAHAHAHA! :laugh:
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He can't win if he doesn't run... have you noticed that your party encourages him more and more everyday to step....very carefully...aside?
 
Never underestimate Joke Bribem's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. He has a 50 year track record of fucking everything up. He has the "Crapper Touch." Everything he touches turns into shit...
 
It's interesting to see people so worked up over the idea of an opinion piece, especially from a Biden pollster who is the Director of Polling at the Harvard Kennedy School writing a piece for the NY Times. This is hardly Charlie Kirk writing for Breibart.

And the idea that anyone writing an opinion piece must have an agenda, the only agenda I see here is this guy giving warning to his fellow Democrats. If those around the country are like the ones here, pretty much strictly focused on Republicans and Trump and how 2024 is going to be a route instead of looking at your own party, he's trying to send a warning.

He didn't bring up 2016 but it's in the backdrop. No one thought Trump would win but enough progressives either stayed home or voted third party to allow Trump to get the narrow margin he needed in several swing states. That's what the author is saying here, that based on current events Democrats cannot take for granted that all progressives will vote for Biden again.
 
cawacko said:
It's interesting to see people so worked up over the idea of an opinion piece, especially from a Biden pollster who is the Director of Polling at the Harvard Kennedy School writing a piece for the NY Times. This is hardly Charlie Kirk writing for Breibart.

And the idea that anyone writing an opinion piece must have an agenda, the only agenda I see here is this guy giving warning to his fellow Democrats. If those around the country are like the ones here, pretty much strictly focused on Republicans and Trump and how 2024 is going to be a route instead of looking at your own party, he's trying to send a warning.

He didn't bring up 2016 but it's in the backdrop. No one thought Trump would win but enough progressives either stayed home or voted third party to allow Trump to get the narrow margin he needed in several swing states. That's what the author is saying here, that based on current events Democrats cannot take for granted that all progressives will vote for Biden again.
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Don't you see the contradiction in repub messaging here? One one hand they're portraying Biden as too old, feeble and demented for a 2nd term; on the other hand they want him to step down so someone "better" can run and possibly win. Why on earth wouldn't repubs support keeping Biden if he's as bad as they say? According to repubs Biden is all but finished and if that's their position, they should just step aside and (in their minds) watch him crash and burn.

IMO repubs are deathly afraid that Biden will win again and that's why they harp on this. If they weren't afraid they'd stop talking about him so much and they'd stop demanding he'd step down. And if the polls waver between now and next year, as they inevitably do, repubs will start the "this election is crooked if trump doesn't win"... just like trump did in both 2016 and 2020.
 
ExpressLane said:
Democrats are calling Biden Genocide Joe. Hundreds of thousands of protesters are pissed at Biden. Prominent Democrats are calling on Biden to quit. The polls are against Biden. Even the NYT said Biden is in trouble.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html


Come on Joe you know it is time to quit. You said you would be a one term President when you ran last time.

Should biden step aside and let a better Democrat run.
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Aren't you afraid to take the chance that a "better" Democrat could win?
 
ExpressLane said:
The US sanctions crashed Irans economy since Biden ignored them Iran has sold ~50 to 60 BILLION in oil. Trump prevented oil sales by Iran and Biden allowed them to sell oil. Trump made them poor and Trump made them rich. After they got rich so they could fund terrorism. This is Biden's mess.

Last year, Iran's revenues from the export of crude oil and condensate reached 42.6B USD, compared to 25.5B in 2021, 7.9B in 2020, and 19.4B in 2019. The peak of export performance in recent years was in 2018, with 60.5B USD in revenues.Se
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Your charts only go up to 2019 so here's another take on it from 2020.

Why Iran's Economy Has Not Collapsed Amid U.S. Sanctions And 'Maximum Pressure'
January 16, 202012:05 PM ET

"Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a recent speech that the administration's strategy of "maximum pressure" aims to cut off 80% of Iran's oil revenues and that "President Rouhani himself said that we have denied the Iranian regime some $200 billion in lost foreign income and investment as a result of our activities."

Yet Iran's economy has not collapsed.

"I think the predictions of a quick economic collapse were too optimistic," says Djavad Salehi-Isfahani, an economics professor at Virginia Tech specializing in the Iranian economy. Despite the Trump administration's crushing sanctions, there is "a misunderstanding of the level of complexity of Iran's economy and how good they are or how experienced they are with resisting sanctions..."

To be sure, the increasing sanctions since 2017 have hit Iran's economy hard.

"Unemployment is high; inflation is high. They're running out of foreign exchange," says Salehi-Isfahani. "The economy is not in good shape at all."

But over the past four decades, Iran has had a lot of experience with sanctions and has learned to withstand their impact, he says. And it's no different this time."

​https://www.npr.org/2020/01/16/796781021/why-irans-economy-has-not-collapsed-amid-u-s-sanctions-and-maximum-pressure
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
If you weren't worried sick about Biden winning the election, YOU WOULD NOT BE posting such rubbish!

No Sir! You would be glad he was running for president!

That's OK, we will both be here a year from today, and I can already tell you a year in advance- BIDEN WINS AGAIN!

And Trump will be going to jail soon after! HAHAHAHA! :laugh:
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^ And that's it in a nut shell. People don't worry about thing that they expect won't happen anyway.
 
christiefan915 said:
Don't you see the contradiction in repub messaging here? One one hand they're portraying Biden as too old, feeble and demented for a 2nd term; on the other hand they want him to step down so someone "better" can run and possibly win. Why on earth wouldn't repubs support keeping Biden if he's as bad as they say? According to repubs Biden is all but finished and if that's their position, they should just step aside and (in their minds) watch him crash and burn.

IMO repubs are deathly afraid that Biden will win again and that's why they harp on this. If they weren't afraid they'd stop talking about him so much and they'd stop demanding he'd step down. And if the polls waver between now and next year, as they inevitably do, repubs will start the "this election is crooked if trump doesn't win"... just like trump did in both 2016 and 2020.
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You're bringing up a separate topic/discussion. The author of this column is a Democratic pollster (for Biden). He's writing this piece to show what his current polling is showing (and he's written a book on young voters and he discusses them here) and makes it clear he does not want Trump back in the White House. He's basically saying don't/you can't take it for granted that Biden will win thus there is a lot of work left to do to appeal to young voters to assure a Democratic victory.

It's always more fun to talk about the other side/party. It's always more fun to talk about their challenges/problems. This Democrat is putting up a mirror basically and saying hey Democrats 2024 is not fait accompli and we have challenges of our own.
 
evince said:
You are never correct either

Retire from predicting things
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Yeah, I bet Fawkewe10 also predicted that Trump would win the 2020 election.

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christiefan915 said:
Don't you see the contradiction in repub messaging here? One one hand they're portraying Biden as too old, feeble and demented for a 2nd term; on the other hand they want him to step down so someone "better" can run and possibly win. Why on earth wouldn't repubs support keeping Biden if he's as bad as they say? According to repubs Biden is all but finished and if that's their position, they should just step aside and (in their minds) watch him crash and burn.

IMO repubs are deathly afraid that Biden will win again and that's why they harp on this. If they weren't afraid they'd stop talking about him so much and they'd stop demanding he'd step down. And if the polls waver between now and next year, as they inevitably do, repubs will start the "this election is crooked if trump doesn't win"... just like trump did in both 2016 and 2020.
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But to your point, if a Republican thinks Biden is very beatable it does not really make sense to say he should step down and have a better Democrat run. (Works the same for Democrats, they may say they hate Trump but would love for him to run because it's pretty hard to imagine him winning another election.)
 
cawacko said:
But to your point, if a Republican thinks Biden is very beatable it does not really make sense to say he should step down and have a better Democrat run. (Works the same for Democrats, they may say they hate Trump but would love for him to run because it's pretty hard to imagine him winning another election.)
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Cherry picking this from the article: "But young progressives remain unconvinced of their government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the White House more likely."

If trump returns to the WH because of this, it's a bad reason IMO. It would seem that young progressives have no memory of trump's hatred for Muslims, Muslim ban, anti-Muslim rhetoric etc. If they're committed to safeguarding the innocent it's not going to come from trump.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
"If you want Americas cities to look like San Francisco vote for Newsom" is the obvious problem with making him the Revolutions candidate....the city is now in full breakdown, and the Mind Molders dont have the power to keep the masses from knowing this.
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Ads showing folks spraying human feces from the sidewalk in front of their business, tent cities, drug needles in the streets... Newsom is not a good candidate. I'd prefer, and continue to hope, that Brandon will be the only option for them by the time it comes to decision day at the DNC Convention. The tighter he grasps onto the power the more it slips between his mitts...

I also have been hoping that Republicans come to their senses and realize Trump's "I've been indicted" plan for his campaign is not a winning campaign strategy and select someone a bit less problematic.
 
serendipity said:
How do you tell the difference, pray tell?
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If the opinion is bad about republicans it is "straight news", if it is bad about democrats then it is a "trash opinion piece"... Facts need not apply.

Of course it doesn't matter, this is a board where we discuss our opinions, posting an opinion piece is exactly what we do here.
 
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