Mara Lago to be liquidated?

QP! said:
At least you admitted Trump committed a fraud above by saying if Trump said it was worth less than $16MM, which he did, then he must be committing a fraud.
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the bank didn't find it to be a problem.

this is judicial activism.

the judge has no standing.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Do you think he is anywhere close to retirement age?

I know one thing- He lives to troll here on JPP! :laugh:
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No. I think he has a physical or mental disability that renders him incapable of meaningful work and believe he's 40s to early 50s, slightly younger than his WSE handler, DumberthanMost.

He thinks being on JPP gives his life meaning.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
odd.....the official of the bank who testified said they weren't.......how is it you know more about the bank than the bank?...,
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Oh geez, that is easy. I actual read what the Banker ACTUALLY said and not what right derp news says they did.

Yes the Banker DID SAY TRUMP LIED in court, under oath...

..Donald Trump obtained hundreds of millions of dollars in loans using financial statements that a court has since deemed fraudulent, a retired bank official testified at the former president’s New York civil fraud trial.


Trump’s “statements of financial condition” were key to his approval for a US$125 million (NZ$207 million) loan in 2011 for his golf resort in Doral, Florida, and a US$107 million (NZ$477.7 million) loan in 2012 for his Chicago hotel and condo skyscraper, former Deutsche Bank risk management officer Nicholas Haigh testified...

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Obama_Phone said:
how often does an AG go into prosecution based on a number on a loan form when there is no aggrieved party?

this case is dog squeeze.

it will never succeed.
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Why wont it succeed? Such prosecution has happened, but I agree it rarely comes to the attention of prosecutors.

My advice for any businessman who is breaking the law to get ahead, don't go out in public bragging about how successful and self made you were.
Don't use your fraudulent success as justification for getting new public job.
 
Obama_Phone said:
the bank didn't find it to be a problem.

this is judicial activism.

the judge has no standing.
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You continue to show how incredibly ignorant you are of the US system Marjorie Greene.

The AG has standing and the Judge does not require standing.

The AG has brought a proper case, the type of which NYS prosecutes all the time and Trump will not get a special exemption for simply because he is the type of rich globalist you always fight to protect.
 
Obama_Phone said:
the bank didn't find it to be a problem.

this is judicial activism.

the judge has no standing.
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Are you that ignorant? The AG has standing, the judge rules on cases brought to him. The laws of the State of New York allow the AG to bring cases such as this to civil court. This is what happened.

Where did you get the idea that the JUDGE does not have standing?
 
Obama_Phone said:
how often does an AG go into prosecution based on a number on a loan form when there is no aggrieved party?

this case is dog squeeze.

it will never succeed.
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Jarod said:
Why wont it succeed? Such prosecution has happened, but I agree it rarely comes to the attention of prosecutors.

My advice for any businessman who is breaking the law to get ahead, don't go out in public bragging about how successful and self made you were.
Don't use your fraudulent success as justification for getting new public job.
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What Obama Derp Phone said is NOT accurate.

Filing False Document cases are often referred to as the Bread and Butter cases of State AG offices as they are one of the most numerous groupings of prosecutions that they do.


A core crime that the Manhattan District Attorney will likely include in an indictment of former President Donald Trump is “falsifying business records in the first degree,” a felony under New York State law (N.Y. Penal Code § 175.10). Prosecutors and indeed all of us are compelled by the rule of law to consider how such a charge compares to past prosecutions. Are like cases being treated alike?

Here it appears they are. Prosecution of falsifying business records in the first degree is commonplace and has been used by New York district attorneys’ offices to hold to account a breadth of criminal behavior from the more petty and simple to the more serious and highly organized. We reach this conclusion after surveying the past decade and a half of criminal cases across all the New York district attorneys’ offices.

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This idea being pushed that a Fraud has to fail and there must be someone who lost money for it to be a crime is simply Derp thought and not true.


The AG is responsible for protecting the MARKET and SYSTEMS before the failure.


If what people push in this Trump case was accurate and true it would mean that pre 2008, even if all the Mortgage fraud (Ninja loans, etc) was exposed and known, as long as none of those loans had failed YET, the gov't could not stop them being written and pushed in to the system. That the gov't would need to wait until 2008 and the collapse, and have victims to act. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

Banking and Insurance systems WORK by properly pegging the risk to the security which then helps ensure the systems are protected against future collapse even when a security may fail. When you lie (as Trump did) even if you make all your payments, you have VICTIMIZED that system. You did not pay the proper amount to cover the risk you posed to the system.

So anyone saying 'ya but Trump paid' is simply a derp.
 
QP! said:
What Obama Derp Phone said is NOT accurate.

Filing False Document cases are often referred to as the Bread and Butter cases of State AG offices as they are one of the most numerous groupings of prosecutions that they do.





This idea being pushed that a Fraud has to fail and there must be someone who lost money for it to be a crime is simply Derp thought and not true.


The AG is responsible for protecting the MARKET and SYSTEMS before the failure.


If what people push in this Trump case was accurate and true it would mean that pre 2008, even if all the Mortgage fraud (Ninja loans, etc) was exposed and known, as long as none of those loans had failed YET, the gov't could not stop them being written and pushed in to the system. That the gov't would need to wait until 2008 and the collapse, and have victims to act. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

Banking and Insurance systems WORK by properly pegging the risk to the security which then helps ensure the systems are protected against future collapse even when a security may fail. When you lie (as Trump did) even if you make all your payments, you have VICTIMIZED that system. You did not pay the proper amount to cover the risk you posed to the system.

So anyone saying 'ya but Trump paid' is simply a derp.
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judicial activism.

there is nobody seeking remedy.

judge has no standing.
 
Obama_Phone said:
judicial activism.

there is nobody seeking remedy.

judge has no standing.
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You simply are Marjorie Greene level stupid and there is no helping you.

You are arguing that all of the Mortgage Brokers sending in fraudulent mortgage applications pre 2008, that crashed the system later, if found out prior to 2008 could not be charged and stopped because home values were rising, and keeping them from default. But after 2008, once they all collapsed then the mortgage brokers could be charged with their crimes.

You are saying even if it was clear everything they were writing in the loan doc's was a lie and fraudulent the gov't must leave them alone until some of those loans default.

I totally get you are so painfully stupid you will not realize how dumb your position is.
 
QP! said:
What Obama Derp Phone said is NOT accurate.

Filing False Document cases are often referred to as the Bread and Butter cases of State AG offices as they are one of the most numerous groupings of prosecutions that they do.





This idea being pushed that a Fraud has to fail and there must be someone who lost money for it to be a crime is simply Derp thought and not true.


The AG is responsible for protecting the MARKET and SYSTEMS before the failure.


If what people push in this Trump case was accurate and true it would mean that pre 2008, even if all the Mortgage fraud (Ninja loans, etc) was exposed and known, as long as none of those loans had failed YET, the gov't could not stop them being written and pushed in to the system. That the gov't would need to wait until 2008 and the collapse, and have victims to act. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

Banking and Insurance systems WORK by properly pegging the risk to the security which then helps ensure the systems are protected against future collapse even when a security may fail. When you lie (as Trump did) even if you make all your payments, you have VICTIMIZED that system. You did not pay the proper amount to cover the risk you posed to the system.

So anyone saying 'ya but Trump paid' is simply a derp.
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They defend Trump because he is wealthy aka elite. They are elitists in the worst sense.
 
Jarod said:
They defend Trump because he is wealthy aka elite. They are elitists in the worst sense.
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A slight disagreement since they consider Trump to be working for the "little guy" akin to Joe the Plumber*. It's extremely odd for a group of middle-aged losers to admire an elitist globalist when they claim to hate elitist globalists.



*Joe Wurzelbacher died in 2022 at age 49 of pancreatic cancer.
 
Doc Dutch said:
A slight disagreement since they consider Trump to be working for the "little guy" akin to Joe the Plumber*. It's extremely odd for a group of middle-aged losers to admire an elitist globalist when they claim to hate elitist globalists.



*Joe Wurzelbacher died in 2022 at age 49 of pancreatic cancer.
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What in the world makes them think this guy who inherited about a billon dollars, shits in a golden toilet and does not pay his contractors is working for the little guy?
 
Jarod said:
What in the world makes them think this guy who inherited about a billon dollars, shits in a golden toilet and does not pay his contractors is working for the little guy?
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Because they believe everything he says. IDK why.

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Doc Dutch said:
Because they believe everything he says. IDK why.
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if you were truly Libertarian, you'd know why. It comes down to the absolute willingness to lie to ones self in order to feel better about your ignorance. It's why Obama derangement syndrome was invented, TDS was naturally going to follow. The base of both parties is so willing to ignore any and all wrongdoing of their own party officials in order to 'win' against the other side.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if you were truly Libertarian, you'd know why. It comes down to the absolute willingness to lie to ones self in order to feel better about your ignorance.

It's why Obama derangement syndrome was invented, TDS was naturally going to follow. The base of both parties is so willing to ignore any and all wrongdoing of their own party officials in order to 'win' against the other side.
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^^^
Thinks "Libertarian" equals violently anti-government.

The fact you support Trump indicates you are not only willing to violently overthrow the US and Texas government, but that you support an authoritarian White Supremacist state. One thing I've noticed about people like you is that you only support Trump, not Nikki, Desantis or any other Republicans.
 
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