Now do you suppose the Founding Fathers envisioned

[Into the Night]

you retards pretending the constitution of today is anything like what we had before incorporation is hilarious

cities/counties/and states if they actually wanted to could do entire bans on weapons in the old days - the 2nd amendment was only a limitation on federal laws only until the civil war and subsequent SCOTUS fights

The 2nd amendment applies to the federal and State governments, and all county, parish, and city governments. It always has.
It has not been repealed.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun.

 

[Into the Night]

Only fucking idiots think America is not a democracy you Russian ass wipe

America is a continent. There is no democracy anywhere on that continent.

 

[zymurgy]

The 2nd amendment applies to the federal and State governments, and all county, parish, and city governments. It always has.
It has not been repealed.

it does now - it is called incorporation. That is not how the law worked in the past though

you will find no reference to the 2nd amendment here or any state challenge on gun laws prior to the civil war- it was irrelevant. your understanding of our laws is sophomoric.

until you actually understand incorporation - you are just a phony on these forums

https://guncite.com/court/state/1al612.html

 

[Into the Night]

Why has the Republican Party tried to insist America has nothing to do with democracy
Yet they lied us to war in Iraq in the name of democracy

The United States was never a democracy.

 

[Into the Night]

it does now - it is called incorporation.

Bogus. Nothing has changed.

That is not how the law worked in the past though

The 2nd amendment has always applied to federal, State, county or parish, and city governments.

you will find no reference to the 2nd amendment here

Okay. Here it is:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

- it was irrelevant. your understanding of our laws is sophomoric.

No, you just want to discard the Constitution.

until you actually understand incorporation - you are just a phony on these forums

'Incorporation' changes nothing. You just want to discard the Constitution.

https://guncite.com/court/state/1al612.html

They do not get to define the Constitution. The Constitution is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun (or any other weapon).

 

[Into the Night]

what government? the second amendment only limited the federal government, not the states.

The 2nd amendment has always applied to all levels of government.

 

[zymurgy]

Bogus. Nothing has changed.

dipshit - the 14th amendment changed everything

your clown shoes are on too tight

find one example of a state case using the 2nd amendment before the 14th amendment

you will come up empty because you are a stubborn retard

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/

 

[Into the Night]

Irrelevant. Nothing in the Constitution prevents Congress or the states from limiting muskets (or semi-automatic rifles) and Scalia specifically ruled the 2nd does not prevent regulation. Some states do regulate or prohibit such weapons. Political decisions and not constitutional interpretation is the explanation why more of these laws do not exist. Don't blame originalism for the failure of legislative bodies to enact laws you desire.

Blatant lie. See the 2nd amendment.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun.

 

[Into the Night]

Thank you for the correction, I meant to say two thirds of the State legislatures cast the votes. Never underestimate what destruction the SC can do to the amendments with unfavorable rulings.

The Supreme Court has NO authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. This was never the interpretation at any time in our history. Just as free speech, religion, press, and all other rights can be restricted so can the 2nd; for example, violent felons.

Nope. It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any weapon. The Supreme Court has NO authority to change the Constitution.
The 1st amendment does not apply to the States. It applies ONLY to the federal government.

 

[zymurgy]

The Supreme Court has NO authority to change the Constitution.

either do you

prior to the 14th amendment countless states placed restrictions because the state constitution was what mattered, not the 2nd amendement

your turn dipshit. pretend all the history doesn't exist.

 

[Into the Night]

dipshit - the 14th amendment changed everything

your clown shoes are on too tight

find one example of a state case using the 2nd amendment before the 14th amendment

you will come up empty because you are a stubborn retard

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/

The 14th amendment did not change or repeal the 2nd amendment.

 

[zymurgy]

The 2nd amendment has always applied to all levels of government.

prove it dip shit

show me one case prior to the 14th amendment where a state was restricted by the 2nd amendment. just one

blablabla. all you got is retarded words. what a shame you can't actually prove what you say clown shoes

 

[Into the Night]

either do you

prior to the 14th amendment countless states placed restrictions because the state constitution was what mattered, not the 2nd amendement

your turn dipshit. pretend all the history doesn't exist.

I am not changing the Constitution. I am only quoting it.
The 2nd amendment has always applied to the federal, State, county or parish, and city governments.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun.

 

[zymurgy]

The 14th amendment did not change or repeal the 2nd amendment.

blablabla

McDonald vs. City of Chicago says you are a retard

 

[zymurgy]

I am not changing the Constitution. I am only quoting it.
The 2nd amendment has always applied to the federal, State, county or parish, and city governments.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun.

no court case to back up your idiocy? shocker

blablabla

 

[Flash]

Blatant lie. See the 2nd amendment.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun.

Not according to the laws and constitutions of the central and state governments. There are many limitations on guns determined by those with the authority to do so. A keyboard warrior cannot change that reality.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

dipshit - the 14th amendment changed everything

what did it change in regards to the 2nd Amendment?

 

[Into the Night]

prove it dip shit

show me one case prior to the 14th amendment where a state was restricted by the 2nd amendment. just one

blablabla. all you got is retarded words. what a shame you can't actually prove what you say clown shoes

Irrelevant. The Supreme Court has no authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Flash]

Nope. It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any weapon. The Supreme Court has NO authority to change the Constitution.
The 1st amendment does not apply to the States. It applies ONLY to the federal government.

You are 100 years behind on your constitutional law.