Biden blocks 6 Billion…

Damocles said:
Any libertarian-leaning republican (not Trump)... If I have to suffer a Democrat I'd prefer someone like Manchin, his brain functions and he doesn't have handlers that want to sell the nation's soul.
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Interesting. Who do you believe Biden is selling our soul to? The Devil?
 
Weaponizing the dollar will be proven to be one of the most idiotic actions of the American Empire....which is now in collapse.
 
Damocles said:
Finally. Took him long enough... The guy who thinks it is just good to give folks who fund terrorism access to billions had a sudden epiphany that maybe, just maybe giving them more money might be bad...
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And unlike the flaccid orange guy, maybe THIS guy had the power to get Americans released from captivity by negotiating the return of funds that rightfully belonged to Iran -- with conditions. The conditions were not met, so no funds.

You guys will do anything to make Biden look bad. Guess what? It's not working.
 
Damocles said:
Don't get me wrong, he finally made the right decision. Better late than never is what I say in this case. Still better would be not to give a terrorist funding regime any access to cash you don't absolutely have to give them.
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We gave them nothing. We took the hold off of their money that was being held up. Now we put it back on. They have received zero.
 
Nordberg said:
We gave them nothing. We took the hold off of their money that was being held up. Now we put it back on. They have received zero.
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I get that, it doesn't change what I said in this thread at all. I need the masters of the White House puppet show to do better and stop promising to give money to terrorist regimes.
 
Damocles said:
Let's play in your magical world where Hamas didn't admit that Iran funded this mess... Okay, that's long enough to spend on imaginary worlds of wonder.

Now, your post here has made us all stupider for having read it, it shows you do not comprehend the conversation us adults are having today.

The reality: Hamas notes that Iran funded this mess. Iran had money that they spent on this, and I believe that promising them access to billions, even putting the money into an escrow account and changing the rules so the US would not punish the banks that were going to do this, played a role in where they spent money they would otherwise have spent on "medicine and food" as allowed by our sanctions.

Anyway, I'm glad that this team of idiots who run the puppet show in the White House finally decided to do the right thing and not give Iran money for ransom.
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You are stupider for being born and sadly i guess i could not dumb it down enough for a derp idiot like you to understand.

But once again i will try..


Republican Claims on Hamas Attack and Iran Funds Distort the Facts


...Contrary to claims by some Republicans, including former President Donald Trump, U.S. taxpayers did not indirectly fund the recent Hamas attack on Israel with Iranian money unfrozen as part of a prisoner swap with Iran in August.

The $6 billion freed up was Iranian money that was held in South Korean banks. It was released to banks in Qatar, and State Department officials say there will be oversight to ensure it can only be spent on humanitarian needs in Iran, such as food or medicine. Some have argued that money is fungible, so the release of the funds will free up Iran to fund terrorism. But none of the $6 billion has yet been spent.

What Is the Origin of the $6 Billion?
In 2018, Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal — known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action — and several months later imposed sanctions that included a partial ban on Iranian oil exports and on banking. The following spring, the administration imposed a total ban on oil exports.

Then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo noted that the sanctions were “targeted at the regime, not the people of Iran, who have suffered grievously under this regime” and that the administration would “maintain many humanitarian exemptions to our sanctions including food, agriculture commodities, medicine, and medical devices.”

Around that time, South Korean banks held between $6.5 billion and $9 billion from the country’s purchases of Iranian energy products. The Trump administration authorized the release of those funds for humanitarian purposes, but the banks resisted doing so, because of a fear of violating the U.S. sanctions, according to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy...
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So you incredibly simple minded derp, read the above and UNDERSTAND that if money is fungible, then it was TRUMP and POMPEO first CREATING THE POOL OF FUnDS and then RELEASING funds to Iran for humanitarian purposes that would create the fungible extra cash for terrorism.

Now i ask you to read the above again but get someone above grade 3 to help you with the big words, you simple minded Derp.
 
Damocles said:
True, actually. Okay, that's a positive too. Pulling the "psyche" on Iran. I have to give credit even when Biden did the right thing accidentally it is still the right thing.
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The thing is, what can be givith, can be takith away! :laugh:

And besides that, Iran has been supplying Russia with Killer Drones and other munitions, so there is still room for negotiations on a new deal with Iran, should they want one!

That was probably where Iran got the Money to fund HAMAS- with Russia's money!
 
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QP! said:
You are stupider for being born and sadly i guess i could not dumb it down enough for a derp idiot like you to understand.

But once again i will try..




So you incredibly simple minded derp, read the above and UNDERSTAND that if money is fungible, then it was TRUMP and POMPEO first CREATING THE POOL OF FUnDS and then RELEASING funds to Iran for humanitarian purposes that would create the fungible extra cash for terrorism.

Now i ask you to read the above again but get someone above grade 3 to help you with the big words, you simple minded Derp.
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Except the money was not spendable, it is only fungible once it is budgeted. In order to be fungible it had to be put into play. Once Iran was promised access to the $6 billion they could take whatever they had budgeted to spend on food and medicine and spend it elsewhere... that is what fungible means.

If I let China buy oil but the money goes into accounts that nobody can spend from and sits there until Iran rots or they stop funding terrorism it is not something they can budget with. However, if I promise to give them $6 Billion... everything changes at that time. Now I can play with my budget, move money, spend money I had earmarked for this and move it to say, funding Hamas (which they did).

Do not give terrorist regimes to any money you do not have to for any reason. Do not deal with terrorists, it never turns out well for those that do.
 
Damocles said:
Except the money was not spendable, it is only fungible once it is budgeted. In order to be fungible it had to be put into play. Once Iran was promised access to the $6 billion they could take whatever they had budgeted to spend on food and medicine and spend it elsewhere... that is what fungible means.

If I let China buy oil but the money goes into accounts that nobody can spend from and sits there until Iran rots or they stop funding terrorism it is not something they can budget with. However, if I promise to give them $6 Billion... everything changes at that time. Now I can play with my budget, move money, spend money I had earmarked for this and move it to say, funding Hamas (which they did).

Do not give terrorist regimes to any money you do not have to for any reason. Do not deal with terrorists, it never turns out well for those that do.
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Then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo noted that the sanctions were “targeted at the regime, not the people of Iran, who have suffered grievously under this regime” and that the administration would “maintain many humanitarian exemptions to our sanctions including food, agriculture commodities, medicine, and medical devices.”
 
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