In the 2000's lithium ion batteries had improved to the point that they started to be tested in cars. And now solid state batteries are improving to a point that they are starting to be tested in cars. It is called the march of time. Only an idiot thinks there have been no improvements in the last 150 years.
Range anxiety is becoming a thing of the past as electric vehicle technology advances
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In the 2000's lithium ion batteries had improved to the point that they started to be tested in cars. And now solid state batteries are improving to a point that they are starting to be tested in cars. It is called the march of time. Only an idiot thinks there have been no improvements in the last 150 years.
ExpressLane
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I like the idea of pumping out spent electrolyte and pumping in new. Plus they aren't as flammable. The electrolytes in them are as dangerous as in lithium batteries.
This car has a twelve hundred mile range TODAY.
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It was both a steam and jet engine. It was not particularly great one of either, but it was both.
You like to point out that sometimes people use gasoline to generate the electricity for an EV. Here is the question, can people use electricity to generate gasoline for an ICE? Of course not. If you have an ICE, you are tied to one source of power: gasoline. Electricity means you can use any source of power, because they are all used to generate power.
I have high hopes for nuclear power, coupled with solar/wind, and some sort of storage. Nuclear tends to give very steady power(when demand goes up and down). Solar and wind give very variable power, but not variable in sync with demand. I think it could all be made to work well.
We definitely need to rebuild our grid. Even if we were not to convert to a smart grid, our grid is so old it needs a complete rebuild. With the smart grid, with many sources moving electricity all over the place, we can have a new grid, and a more reliable grid.
Or we can just keep trying to use to same old, tired, not working solutions.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
T. A. Gardner
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Only an idiot, like you, conflates incremental improvement with technological revolution. Batteries haven't seen real revolutionary progress in that time, just incremental improvements.
serendipity
Verified User
How many trillions will that cost and where's the money coming from?
serendipity
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Fascinating concept.
How this car promises to make petrol – and batteries – history
This electric car promises to fix everything wrong with electric cars while delivering impressive performance.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/...y/news-story/88a37ec7cbd7351523a6cfcfce4f80b4
How this car promises to make petrol – and batteries – history
This electric car promises to fix everything wrong with electric cars while delivering impressive performance.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/...y/news-story/88a37ec7cbd7351523a6cfcfce4f80b4
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I am realizing your opinion has no value. If you cannot see the revolutionary improvement in lithium ion batteries over lead acid batteries, even in hindsight, your opinion has no value to me.
The two questions you should ask are how many trillions will it cost not to invest, and how many trillions will it cost to invest? Unfortunately we have lost hundreds of billions, and years to privatization, but that happened and we have to move on.
The fact is that if we are not investing into having a modern electrical grid, we will not be a first world nation in the second half of the 21st century. That makes it a priority, and we should spend accordingly.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
There is no "revolutionary improvement." Lithium batteries still put out about 3 VDC per cell. They discharge at the same rate they did in the 1960's. The only improvement has been in the rechargability of one. That's it. Yes, they are a bit more efficient than a lead-acid battery, and a bit more efficient than a nickel-iron battery, although the Ni-Fe ones have longer lives, and are better in that respect than Ni-Cd batteries.
But what they aren't is some massive revolution in battery technology. I could buy the same battery going into a Tesla today back in the 1980's sans some minor improvements.
The batteries in the Telsa have 10 times the energy density of anything available in the 1980's, so no you could not.
It means LyinBitch is soiling his diapers over the popularity of EVs.
They ain't popular in rural America. Try to find a charging station. One of the largest dealerships here isn't selling many EVs because they have the only charger within 25-30 miles. The next closest charger is at another dealership.
Joey soils diaper. Again.
You can have your own charging station at home. Can you have your own oil pump, refinery, and gas station at home? Just asking.
Gas stations are everywhere, many only a few hundred yards apart. Are charging stations that close? Nope.
serendipity
Verified User
He's a weird cunt, gets some kind of strange thrill out of posting shit all the time.
There are a lot more electrical outlets than gas stations. In fact, a gas station will not work without electricity, as people found out the hard way with Hurricane Katrina.
What's the cost of a personal charging station? And the monthly cost to drive electric? Affordable for the average middle class family? Especially these days...when many families are living paycheck to paycheck?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
fair.....my granddaughter may teach her childen to drive in an electric vehicle......unless they run out of rare metals before then...
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That’s a canard. E vehicles are already viable or there wouldn’t already be millions of the things on the road. That’s already been proven otherwise the automakers wouldn’t be investing billions in improving efficiencies, economies of scale and infrastructure. That viability issue has already sailed. Its done been proven.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Too bad they are NOT green. Even the very best emits 31 tons of CO2 over its lifespan.
"Despite emissions from battery production, EVs emit on average less greenhouse gas (GHG) than ICE models. From all the cars tested, the Fiat 500e represents the smallest carbon footprint (31 tons of CO2), while the first ICE car comes in at sixth place with 41 tons: the diesel engined Skoda Octavia 2.0 TDI."
https://www.fleeteurope.com/en/new-...e-evs?t[0]=Electrification; CO2 target&curl=1